2013-14 NHL Season Discussion

[Variable]

Damn, missed that typo, thanks for quoting it.  Other than that, you're were saying.....what exactly? I don't understand how scoring a goal on a breakaway is disrespecting a team?</p>

 

[Shantz My Pants]

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Playing dumb it is then huh. He was asked about the goal (for some reason, seeing as it had nothing to do with the Capitals). That's what he was upset about. The goal. That's what his response was. But that's alright. I mean, it's not like the guy just defended a dirty hit, called it clean, and said it shouldn't have even been a penalty. Agree to disagree again.


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You're arguing skills are awful. Where does Oates say someone should take him out? He doesn't.


He was upset that a guy would rub it in by going for a deke that is considered by many as showboating. It's not him scoring a goal, it's how he scored the goal. He never says someone should take him out. He says that some may take disrespect by HOW he scored the goal and it could blow back at him. Never says for anyone to do anything.


**** man, you cannot be this ignorant or stupid but in reality I'm done reading your posts. Everything is wrong with the NHL in your eyes, and yet you still watch. **** it, ignore list it is cause I can't take anymore of this nonsense dribble you are typing.

 

[Variable]

It's never "non-threatening" something like that coming from a coach or player from a different team. Never. There's always an inference. Always an underlying message with saying shit like that.  Everyone knows it. Again, it's playing dumb saying otherwise. He wouldn't have said anything like that if he himself wasn't upset by Hertl scoring that goal and would've expected retribution of some sort to be brought upon him if it was his team Hertl had scored on like that. Why are we pretending for? What's the use?  His answer to that question wouldn't have been anything like that he felt any other way. It would've been like Julien's:</p>


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“It was a pretty nice goal,� said Claude Julien. “I was just saying this morning that it’s pretty unfortunate when there’s a good hit in hockey, there seems to be players wanting revenge for a nice, clean hit. When a player scores a nice, pretty goal, the first thing that comes out of people’s mouth is ‘Was he hot-dogging it?’</p>


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“It was a nice goal that he scored, so let’s accept it. It’s the same thing as I said about [Kaspars] Daugavins when he tried that [spin-o-rama] move [in the shootout]. Hey, if he scores it’s a goal for his team . . . big deal. I don’t think we should be mad about those kinds of things if they’re allowed in our game.�</p>


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[Spunky Porkstacker]

HaHa Big Buff gives it to Varlamov in OT win over Avs.</p>


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[Chief Walking Stick]

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HaHa Big Buff gives it to Varlamov in OT win over Avs.</p>


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LOL similar to what he did to Luongo in 09.</p>


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Good... more people should punch that **** in the head.</p>

 

[PatrickSharpRules]

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It's never "non-threatening" something like that coming from a coach or player from a different team. Never. There's always an inference. Always an underlying message with saying shit like that.  Everyone knows it. Again, it's playing dumb saying otherwise. He wouldn't have said anything like that if he himself wasn't upset by Hertl scoring that goal and would've expected retribution of some sort to be brought upon him if it was his team Hertl had scored on like that. Why are we pretending for? What's the use?  His answer to that question wouldn't have been anything like that he felt any other way. It would've been like Julien's:</p>
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Variable, my thing is...who are you trying to protect? This game is played by 6 foot 200 lb monsters skating their balls off in 45 second shifts and a very confined area. They know better than anyone the risks. It is a downright brutal game at points, at the NHL level players are not being put at risk by anybody but themselves. Schenn played in the next game and is fine, and even if he was not and at serious risk, the onus is without a doubt on him, nobody on the Flyers or NHL were ever forcing him to go out and play. </p>


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I see your main point of making the league safer, but with the new rules of no clutching, interference, grabbing, two line passes the game is unbelievably fast compared to before the 04-05 lockout. In my opinion, the only way to stop the dangerous hits that are now rampant is to slow the game back down by allowing players to clutch, grab, hook, interfere as they were before. It has very little to do with fighting and people being "afraid" to do something and much more to do with the current state of the game.</p>


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The NHL has made their bed, and now they need to figure out how to have a happy medium of the game being this explosive and not sending 5-7 guys a week to the IR with a concussion. </p>

 

[Variable]

Schenn didn't even undergo testing for a concussion, whether they understand the risks or not (which is a weak excuse to begin with) there's no defending that. That is on the organization, there are examples of teams refusing to play players because of their injury problems, namely concussion problems, they didn't even test him. Because he was "fine" is irrelevant, it was how badly it was handled is the problem. In this day and age, with how much  more we know about brain injuries, that's uncalled for.</p>


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The way to stop the dangerous hits is to finally dish out heavy suspensions for them. They've yet to do that. There are some repeat offenders who still continually only get 2 or 3 or 4 games. That's a joke. You're not going to curb player behavior with that. I guarantee you, you start regularly hitting these assholes where it hurts, you will get results. It just hasn't been tried yet. There are enough people still in the league front office that would rather argue for the self policing instead, when that's NEVER worked. Fucking never worked.</p>

 

[CLWolf81]

Ryan Suter just got his first career hat trick tonight... first time in Minnesota since 2010, so yeah its been awhile... </p>

 

[MassHavoc]

[youtube]http://youtu.be/nNwtmW1JFLE[/youtube]</p>

 

[Variable]

A junior Dan Carcillo.</p>

 

[roshinaya]

What an idiot, like how he gets angry at the player who dodged him.

 

[Shantz My Pants]

That kid was skating in their (like most bantam and midget players) with the intention of just crushing that guy while forgetting the play all the way.


Not only does everyone at the rink get to see him act like a moron, but everyone in the world now does too.

 

[MassHavoc]

Brayden Schenn Takes A Skate To The Stomach, Returns To The Game</p>

 

[winos5]

Flesh wound.</p>

 

[CLWolf81]

Ouch wow....</p>


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Things like that are what proves that hockey players can go through just about anything and still be strong.</p>

 

[~rabid platypus~]

St. Louis now leads the league in scoring. They take the lead with steen still out with a concussion.</p>

 

[Ton]

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St. Louis now leads the league in scoring. They take the lead with steen still out with a concussion.</p>
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Well, in goals per game, not scoring. The Hawks are still 1st in scoring, but have played 4 more games.</p>


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Either way, I'm really surprised... and still there are no PPG players on St. Louis. Yeah, Steen, but we'll see what happens when he comes back. I can't remember the last time St. Louis really had a bona fide stud on the team... the Pavol Demitra/Tkachuk days?</p>


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I'm sure you're just happy that Patrik Berglund is no longer a 1st liner on the team... lol. It's been a good turn around. But still, I think they need a true stud to take them over the top.</p>

 

[PatrickSharpRules]

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Well, in goals per game, not scoring. The Hawks are still 1st in scoring, but have played 4 more games.</p>


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Either way, I'm really surprised... and still there are no PPG players on St. Louis. Yeah, Steen, but we'll see what happens when he comes back. I can't remember the last time St. Louis really had a bona fide stud on the team... the Pavol Demitra/Tkachuk days?</p>


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I'm sure you're just happy that Patrik Berglund is no longer a 1st liner on the team... lol. It's been a good turn around. But still, I think they need a true stud to take them over the top.</p>
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My thoughts exactly, and I would argue they need at least two true studs to take them over the top.</p>


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Look how hard fought our cup victories have been with 3-4 offensive studs, one of the few reasons they have been somewhat of a nonfactor come playoff time.</p>

 

[~rabid platypus~]

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Well, in goals per game, not scoring. The Hawks are still 1st in scoring, but have played 4 more games.</p>


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Either way, I'm really surprised... and still there are no PPG players on St. Louis. Yeah, Steen, but we'll see what happens when he comes back. I can't remember the last time St. Louis really had a bona fide stud on the team... the Pavol Demitra/Tkachuk days?</p>


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I'm sure you're just happy that Patrik Berglund is no longer a 1st liner on the team... lol. It's been a good turn around. But still, I think they need a true stud to take them over the top.</p>
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Berglund is still my favorite player. They have decided to move him to the wing and he is looking much better. I think Schwartz and Tarasenko are growing to be our two studs. They are still only 21 and are breaking out this year as they learn the game. In a few years I think they will be ready to carry the team.</p>

 

[BlackHawkPaul]

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Berglund is still my favorite player. They have decided to move him to the wing and he is looking much better. I think Schwartz and Tarasenko are growing to be our two studs. They are still only 21 and are breaking out this year as they learn the game. In a few years I think they will be ready to carry the team.</p>
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It's all about matchups.</p>


Right now St. Louis is barely ahead.  

If the Blues and Hawks were to meet, it would go 7.  


Then again, there are no shootouts in the post season (obviously), and I think the Hawks outlast a Blues team in playoff OTs. </p>