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I would say if not Curry MVP they'd give Kerr COY, but with Atlanta doing what they're doing, I'd say they'd have to give it to Budenholzer at this point.

Budenholzer should win it and I would say is the clear favorite. J Kidd will have his name in the convo as well if he can keep the Bucks going with their new additions.
 

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If not for injury, OKC is a top 3 team in the West for sure. As long as they make the playoffs, Westbrook has a legit shot. I won't say he's the clear cut favorite, but it is neck and neck with him and Harden at this point, with Steph Curry nipping at their heels.

At the end of the day, I agree. I think Harden wins as well. He's the best scorer in the game, averaging career highs in almost every category, and has played every game while becoming more of a leader on the court.

but at the same time without injury i don't think Westbrook would be putting up these numbers

his USG% is Allen Iverson high which means he dominating the hell out of the ball

i think this is similar to Kobe in 06 he put up great stats but his team was like 7th seed
 

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20-11-10 tonight in only 3 quarters and a another steamroll. MVPBrook!

This team is going to be crazy when they get KD back.
 

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Russ is making a strong case for MVP for sure. His P.E.R is 29.4 that's crrrrrrazy good.
 

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So... there is a report that the projection for Paul George's return is about a month away...

What if the NBA Finals is OKC Thunder vs. Indiana Pacers? I'll laugh my ass off.
 

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So... there is a report that the projection for Paul George's return is about a month away...

What if the NBA Finals is OKC Thunder vs. Indiana Pacers? I'll laugh my ass off.
If the Pacers still had Stephenson I'd entertain that thought, but I highly doubt it.
 

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So... there is a report that the projection for Paul George's return is about a month away...

What if the NBA Finals is OKC Thunder vs. Indiana Pacers? I'll laugh my ass off.
The Indiana Pacers won't survive a round and will **** themselves over royally for the future by making the playoffs.
 

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Lance Stephenson was not a very good player. Rodney Stuckey, to me, is a very adequate replacement.

Indiana has been to the ECF the past two years. If they see a Roseless Bulls or inexperienced Cavs/Raptors team in the first round, why can't they beat them? Paul George is that big of a difference maker.
 

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Lance Stephenson was not a very good player. Rodney Stuckey, to me, is a very adequate replacement.

Indiana has been to the ECF the past two years. If they see a Roseless Bulls or inexperienced Cavs/Raptors team in the first round, why can't they beat them? Paul George is that big of a difference maker.
You underestimate Stephenson's value in that system. He was a very good player in that system.
 

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Lance Stephenson was not a very good player. Rodney Stuckey, to me, is a very adequate replacement.

Indiana has been to the ECF the past two years. If they see a Roseless Bulls or inexperienced Cavs/Raptors team in the first round, why can't they beat them? Paul George is that big of a difference maker.

Because the Cavs and Raptors are vastly superior teams and George won't be near 100%. The Bulls w/o Rose? Who knows. But I'd still take the Bulls. The Pacers suck.

Lance Stephenson was a very good player last year.
 

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Lance Stephenson was not a very good player. Rodney Stuckey, to me, is a very adequate replacement.

Indiana has been to the ECF the past two years. If they see a Roseless Bulls or inexperienced Cavs/Raptors team in the first round, why can't they beat them? Paul George is that big of a difference maker.
Stephenson played great for Indiana...

I will just be shocked if Indiana makes it out of the first round. I think LeBron and the Cavs could beat them handidly. I think the Raptors fall far enough in the standings for that not to matter. I also think they are too far back to catch anyone else.. 7th seed is the best they can do. They'll play Atlanta or Cleveland IMO.
 

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Stephenson played great for Indiana...

I will just be shocked if Indiana makes it out of the first round. I think LeBron and the Cavs could beat them handidly. I think the Raptors fall far enough in the standings for that not to matter. I also think they are too far back to catch anyone else.. 7th seed is the best they can do. They'll play Atlanta or Cleveland IMO.

This. Stephenson was a headcase but he helped make that team go. No idea where Rami is coming from with this idea Stephenson wasn't a very good player and Stuckey replaced what he did.
 

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Beasley is back with the Heat.
 

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This. Stephenson was a headcase but he helped make that team go. No idea where Rami is coming from with this idea Stephenson wasn't a very good player and Stuckey replaced what he did.
With Stephenson sucking this year..he forget the good Stephenson was with Indy?
 

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With Stephenson sucking this year..he forget the good Stephenson was with Indy?

Fairly or unfairly, Stephenson got a lot of the blame for Indiana's struggles in the second half of last season from his teammates. I'd say Stephenson is a better player than Stuckey overall because of his versatility but Lance was a bit J.R. Smith-esque at times with his shot selection. He was a triple double threat and a good defender along the perimeter but I think Stuckey might be a better fit alongside George. Stuckey is a bit smoother and plays more like a point guard than Stephenson. Indiana's main problem last year was their reliance on isolation ball. George Hill is more of a score first point guard as well. I just wouldn't sleep on Indiana. They've maintained very good defense. George is a franchise player. I don't know if I'd predict them to win the East but it's not out of the realms of possibility.
 

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Fairly or unfairly, Stephenson got a lot of the blame for Indiana's struggles in the second half of last season from his teammates. I'd say Stephenson is a better player than Stuckey overall because of his versatility but Lance was a bit J.R. Smith-esque at times with his shot selection. He was a triple double threat and a good defender along the perimeter but I think Stuckey might be a better fit alongside George. Stuckey is a bit smoother and plays more like a point guard than Stephenson. Indiana's main problem last year was their reliance on isolation ball. George Hill is more of a score first point guard as well. I just wouldn't sleep on Indiana. They've maintained very good defense. George is a franchise player. I don't know if I'd predict them to win the East but it's not out of the realms of possibility.
He did? Because I remember Roy Hibbert getting all the blame.

As far as the Pacers, nothing is really out of the realm of possibilities, but this is a team that almost lost to the 8th seed Atlanta Hawks last year, who are the #1 seed this year.
 

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LOL the Pacers aren't doing shit this year, George or no George. There's only 2 possible teams coming out of the East now this year, the Hawks or the Cavs. We still have a dark horse chance just because of how we play as the underdog (and potentially getting Rose back by playoffs), but I just don't see any other teams topping those two.
 

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He did? Because I remember Roy Hibbert getting all the blame.
Fan blame or teammate blame though? Although objectively speaking, Hibbert sucked massively for stretches. Games where he'd play like 12 minutes and do literally nothing. Meanwhile, Stephenson was basically being Paul George lite for them. If Stephenson actually got blame from his teammates (likely for his antics), then that is a bit unfair.
 

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Fairly or unfairly, Stephenson got a lot of the blame for Indiana's struggles in the second half of last season from his teammates. I'd say Stephenson is a better player than Stuckey overall because of his versatility but Lance was a bit J.R. Smith-esque at times with his shot selection. He was a triple double threat and a good defender along the perimeter but I think Stuckey might be a better fit alongside George. Stuckey is a bit smoother and plays more like a point guard than Stephenson. Indiana's main problem last year was their reliance on isolation ball. George Hill is more of a score first point guard as well. I just wouldn't sleep on Indiana. They've maintained very good defense. George is a franchise player. I don't know if I'd predict them to win the East but it's not out of the realms of possibility.
Yes it is.

The Pacers suck.
 

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