2014 Chicago Cubs In-Season Discussion Thread

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The bullpen of the next 2 years looks like it could be pretty filthy.

Hector Rondon - 19.1 IP 10.24 K/9 2.79 BB/9 1.40 ERA
Neil Ramirez - 9.1 IP 14.46 K.9 1.93 BB/9 0.96 ERA
Zac Rosscup - 4.0 IP 11.25 K/9 4.50 BB/9 0.00 ERA
Justin Grimm - 18.2 IP 10.61 K/9 5.79 BB/9 3.38 ERA
Wesley Wright - 13.0 IP 9.00 K/9 3.46 BB/9 2.08 ERA
Pedro Strop - 12.2 IP 10.66 K/9 5.68 BB/9 4.97 ERA

You then add in the possibility of
Arodys Vizcaino - 13.0 IP 11.8 K/9 2.8 BB/9 0.69 ERA between A+/AA
Marcus Hatley - 17.1 IP 12.98 K/9 1.04 BB/9 2.08 ERA in AAA

We can talk about the lack of high profile starters but the front office has done a really good job adding power arms for the bullpen.
 

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An update on this great move...."12 year MLB veteran Joel Piňeiro has been added to the @smokiesbaseball roster. The 35 year old won 15 games for the Cardinals in 2009"

He'll be in Chicago by August :fap:

You know there are depth moves that cost nothing and are inconsequential. Teams do those all the time.


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The bullpen of the next 2 years looks like it could be pretty filthy.

Hector Rondon - 19.1 IP 10.24 K/9 2.79 BB/9 1.40 ERA
Neil Ramirez - 9.1 IP 14.46 K.9 1.93 BB/9 0.96 ERA
Zac Rosscup - 4.0 IP 11.25 K/9 4.50 BB/9 0.00 ERA
Justin Grimm - 18.2 IP 10.61 K/9 5.79 BB/9 3.38 ERA
Wesley Wright - 13.0 IP 9.00 K/9 3.46 BB/9 2.08 ERA
Pedro Strop - 12.2 IP 10.66 K/9 5.68 BB/9 4.97 ERA

You then add in the possibility of
Arodys Vizcaino - 13.0 IP 11.8 K/9 2.8 BB/9 0.69 ERA between A+/AA
Marcus Hatley - 17.1 IP 12.98 K/9 1.04 BB/9 2.08 ERA in AAA

We can talk about the lack of high profile starters but the front office has done a really good job adding power arms for the bullpen.

I would try to convert Arodys over to a starter after this year. I feel pretty good with Hector Rondon and Neil Ramirez as the 8th/9th.
 

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I would try to convert Arodys over to a starter after this year. I feel pretty good with Hector Rondon and Neil Ramirez as the 8th/9th.

I'd like to see them trying to build up him and Ramirez to be honest but I'm not sure they are going to do either.
 

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I'd like to see them trying to build up him and Ramirez to be honest but I'm not sure they are going to do either.

Ramirez is more of a SO pitcher and those type excel more in late inning situations where being able to SO pays off more than putting the ball in play. I would rather have Hendricks in the rotation. Eats innings. Can strike guys out. But lives off location vs stuff. Better chance of finding scess in the league vs another power arm that really has not mastered the art of pitching.

Sorry rather have another Maddux type in the staff.

Viz most likely will end up in the pen but he already have 3 plus pitches. He is in AA and it would be worth it for this year he just gets his arm tested in the pen. Next year put him in the Iowa rotation to extend him. Have him work on extending out over the winter in winter ball some also. Later year next year he would become a solid option.

I just see Rondon having closer stuff and a closer mentality. He was not the guy most of us thought would become that guy but he has been.

I'm just hoping the agenda doesn't get in the way. IE build up trade value of a trade chip vs developing a long term solution at closer. Theo and Jed sux IMO. They are just looking to sell not win.
 

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Taking into concideration that Rondon is 5 for 5 and nails: Ricky pumping out the upper managment agenda again...crap spilling:
http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/ar...tebook_id=75792942&vkey=notebook_chc&c_id=chc

CHICAGO -- Cubs manager Rick Renteria didn't waste any time using Jose Veras in the ninth inning. The right-hander could regain his job as the team's closer.

Veras was sidelined with a strained left oblique and activated from the disabled list Wednesday. He made his first appearance on Thursday against the Cardinals, and he entered in the sixth with a runner at first and one out. Veras got Allen Craig to hit into a double play.

On Friday, Veras entered in the ninth with the Cubs trailing the Brewers, 4-3. He struck out two of the four batters he faced, but Chicago wasn't able to rally for the win.

"Those are situations he's pitched in before; it's not foreign to him," Renteria said of late-inning work. "We want him to continue to build as much confidence as he possibly can and [Friday] was an opportunity that we had for him, and we used him."

Veras was the closer at the start of the season, but he lost that job after blowing a two-run lead April 11 against St. Louis. Could Veras be the closer again?

"In the end, as it evolves and how he continues to perform will dictate how we move forward," Renteria said
 

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2015 Free Agent Power Rankings

1. Max Scherzer. Scherzer has allowed six runs in the 39 innings he’s pitched since our last edition of these rankings, driving his ERA down to an AL-best 1.83 and earning him our top spot. His decision to turn down a six-year, $144MM offer from the Tigers before the season is looking wise. A new deal will begin with Scherzer’s age-30 season. I have to think agent Scott Boras will seek something in the range of Clayton Kershaw‘s seven-year, $215MM deal. That contract includes an opt-out clause after the fifth year. Key differences, aside from performance: Kershaw’s contract began with his age 26 season, but it was not negotiated on the open market.

2. Hanley Ramirez. Ramirez’s .251/.333/.450 line on the young season qualifies as good but not great. Among shortstops, his weighted on-base average places him sixth among qualifiers. Last Thursday, Jon Heyman of CBS Sports described extension talks with the Dodgers, writing, “there’s still a significant enough gap that it may take a while to do a deal, assuming one will get done.” Heyman threw out a $130MM figure in the article, drawing Jacoby Ellsbury and Shin-Soo Choo comparisons. Those players received seven-year deals on the open market, but Heyman feels the length of a Ramirez contract could be a big question in these negotiations. If the Dodgers succeed in preventing Ramirez from reaching free agency, we could be in line for the first offseason without a $100MM position player since 2005-06 (the first offseason covered by this website).

3. Jon Lester. Lester and James Shields have been keeping pace this year, with each hurler sporting a 2.67 ERA. In the time since our last rankings, Lester added to his resume with a career-best 15 strikeout performance against the A’s on May 3rd. We haven’t heard much on the extension front, save for an April comment from Red Sox manager John Farrell about the team’s intention to make every effort to retain their ace.

4. James Shields. Shields is the workhorse of this free agent class, as he’s on pace to exceed 220 innings for the fourth year in a row. A five-year deal, however, would be buying into his age 33-37 seasons. In a March assessment of Shields’ upcoming free agency, MLBTR’s Jeff Todd suggested $100MM as a ceiling, proposing the interesting idea of an opt-out clause.

5. Ervin Santana. Last month, MLBTR’s Steve Adams made the bold choice of ranking Santana over Justin Masterson. That call is looking correct, as Santana continues to miss bats above his career rate, partially due to his new change-up. Having signed on March 12th, however, Santana will be subject to a qualifying offer from the Braves after the season. Dragging around a QO again will hurt, but he should be able to find a strong four-year deal this time. One potential solution would be to just sign a midseason extension with the Braves.

6. Justin Masterson. With a 4.78 ERA and 3.9 BB/9 in his last seven starts, Masterson hasn’t done anything to justify moving up the rankings. Still, he’s shown enough overall to suggest he’ll pitch at a sub-4.00 ERA moving forward, and he doesn’t turn 30 until March. Last year’s velocity hasn’t returned, but he’s made some recent progress in that regard.

7. Pablo Sandoval. Sandoval has 13 hits in his last eight games, perhaps suggesting he’s getting on track to reach his typical level of offense. Sandoval won’t turn 28 until August, and the third baseman could greatly benefit from the weak free agent class for position players with a strong four and a half months. The Giants and Sandoval broke off extension talks in late April, with Jon Heyman reporting the player sought at least $100MM on a five-year deal, with the team open to four years.

8. Chase Headley. Headley falls from the #6 spot last month. He missed a few weeks with a calf strain, and has at least shown some pop and patience in the eight games since his return. However, the 30-year-old ranks just 18th among third basemen in wOBA over the last year, with a .309 mark. That’s actually better than Sandoval during that time, so I won’t argue if you prefer Headley to Panda. Regardless, good defense and a league average bat won’t result in a big contract for Headley, so he needs to start hitting.

9. Colby Rasmus. Rasmus is currently on the DL with hamstring tightness. The center fielder doesn’t turn 28 until August, and he’s shown 30 home run power when on the field. Steve Adams’ comparison to B.J. Upton in last month’s rankings was apt. Despite a qualifying offer, Upton snagged his five-year, $75MM deal coming off a .246/.298/.454 batting line. Rasmus sits at .222/.266/.489 this year.

10. Jed Lowrie. This marks Lowrie’s first appearance on these Power Rankings. He just turned 30, and his wOBA is only a touch below Hanley Ramirez’s among shortstops this year. He’s upped his walk rate to career-best 11.5%. Lowrie seems to be settling in as a 3-4 win infielder, shaking off early injury concerns. Omar Infante‘s deal could be a starting point.

Melky Cabrera, 30 in August, is close to cracking the top ten. The Jays left fielder is off to a .310/.350/.481 start in 200 plate appearances. However, his defense drags his value down.

Nelson Cruz, Mike Morse, and Victor Martinez are also at the top of various offensive leaderboards in the early going. However, they’re older than the players in the top ten and offer no value defensively, and could come with qualifying offers. Cabrera, Cruz, Morse, and Martinez will have to stay healthy and continue raking to overcome their defensive limitations.

Plenty of 2015 free agent hurlers are off to strong starts, as Josh Beckett, Aaron Harang, Jason Hammel, A.J. Burnett, Dan Haren, and Chris Young sport ERAs under 3.50. On the international front, 26-year-old righty Kenta Maeda has a 2.33 ERA after eight starts for the Hiroshima Carp.
 

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Cubs' outfield plan needs an overhaul
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CHICAGO -- The rebuilding Chicago Cubs are heavy in infield prospects, but where are the outfielders who are going to help lead them to contending status?

They certainly aren't employed by the big league club right now.

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Junior Lake leads Cubs outfielders with five home runs but his 45 strikeouts also lead the team.
This will come as no surprise to the Cubs, as they know they hired a group of fourth outfielders to roam Wrigley Field this season, but the numbers are staggering.

According to ESPN Stats & Information, Cubs outfielders have a .289 on-base percentage, second worst in baseball. Their .639 OPS is third worst. Their 24.7 strikeout percentage is third highest and their 5.9 walk percentage is fourth lowest. Their six home runs are the fewest in the National League. When Junior Lake (five home runs) doesn't start and with Justin Ruggiano (one homer) on the disabled list, the Cubs' outfield has zero home runs.

At least their strikeout percentage goes down when Lake sits, as he alone brings that way up with 45 whiffs in 114 at-bats. There's no other way to cut it, the Cubs' outfield isn't very productive, and that's even with early-season surprise Emilio Bonifacio (.292, .337 OBP) playing there more often than not since Ruggiano went down with a hamstring injury.

A bad six weeks by veteran Nate Schierholtz has really affected the numbers, but again, this can't come as a big surprise. Were Ryan Kalish, Ryan Sweeney, Chris Coghlan and Ruggiano along with Lake and Schierholtz really going to shock the baseball world this season? Not according to the back of their baseball cards.

But we know this was by design. The Cubs don't want to clog up their outfield with expensive and older players when their prospects are ready, so they passed on free agents such as Jacoby Ellsbury and Shin-Soo Choo. You may think that was all about money, but when the Cubs are on the record saying they didn't spend everything they could have last offseason then passing on those players was by choice. And it was the right choice.

But for an organization with so many prospects, not one at Triple-A Iowa is projected as an everyday outfielder in the big leagues. In fact there's only one with any intrigue: defensive whiz Matt Szczur. Josh Vitters, Brett Jackson and Logan Watkins aren't going to be starting on the Cubs when the team is ready to compete -- or likely ever. At the lower levels of the minors we know there are some names with some talent such as Jorge Soler and Albert Almora. Soler hasn't been healthy enough to know when he'll be ready and Almora is still (for now) at high Class A ball in Daytona. If the Cubs are honest about not skipping any levels and prospects having to dominate before advancing then both still have a ways to go, maybe a long ways.

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Kris Bryant could end up in the outfield by the time he gets to Wrigley Field.
So how can the Cubs advance their rebuilding? How about getting serious about moving some players to the outfield, starting with Double-A stud Kris Bryant? It's not that Bryant can't play third base, but he's needed more in the outfield and right now the Cubs have a third baseman (Mike Olt) leading all rookies in home runs and just four behind the National League leader despite not playing every day.

Bryant recently told ESPNChicago.com that he's working extremely hard at third base. There's a good chance the Cubs are going to move him to the outfield eventually. Why not now? Why let him put all that work in at third instead of the outfield? Why wait as they did with Lake and now with Javier Baez? Lake is paying for it now, and Baez will almost assuredly be paying for it later when he's moved from shortstop.

In fact, maybe Baez or even Starlin Castro should move to the outfield or at least out of the shortstop position. Both might be best suited for third base. There's a chance neither Castro nor Baez is suited to play shortstop for a championship-caliber team. Scouts confirm what the eye test shows: Castro doesn't see the ball well off the bat, especially on line drives. On all balls hit to his left and right he's plus-16, on balls hit straight at him he's minus-27 for his career. Either he doesn't pick up the spin or isn't judging the speed or trajectory.

Unless the belief Baez is going to go down as one of the greatest power-hitting shortstops of all time he needs to move from shortstop, as well. Let him focus on the thing he does best: slugging. Could either play center field? Are the Cubs going to wait for one player at Class A right now and not give a shot to anyone else in center until Almora is ready? Prospect Arismendy Alcantara could move back to shortstop. He's the more prototypical candidate for a team that should employ bigger sluggers around him.

Not to say Castro is an awful shortstop, but he could be an option to improve the black hole that is the outfield.

The Cubs say things will play out and that's just fine in a lost season like this one. Let Lake learn on the job. Give new manager Rick Renteria something to do -- like when he was animatedly teaching Lake the finer points of defense on Saturday during batting practice -- but the Cubs could quickly change the outlook in their outfield if they started moving some pieces around. That way 2015 or more likely 2016 might not only be about developing but maybe it starts to be about winning.

Otherwise, the rebuilding project might continue on that snail's pace. No one wants that.
 

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Interesting article. I've suggested Castro to the OF previously and got the power bat smack down.
 

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Interesting article. I've suggested Castro to the OF previously and got the power bat smack down.

I agree with pushing Bryant to RF and Baez to either 2B or to the OF.

Soler has been injured too much to depend on and they should not wait 2 years for Almora to man CF.

It is a interesting take. I don't agree with Alcantara at SS. He was not good either.
 

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I would be more inclined to stick alcantara to center over Castro. Alcantara isn't very good at short and would have to grow through big growing pains like castro


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Why LH VS RH match ups mean little:

Junior Lake:
VS LHP: 39 AB .256/.302/.513
VS RHP: 93 AB .290/.309/.462

Nate Schierholtz:
VS LHP 31 AB .258/.294/.290
VS RHP 111 AB .189/.256/.252
 

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My thoughts when Rugg gets back:

SLG:
Lake: .477
Rizzo .454
Castro .452
Olt .430
Valbuena .426
Castillo .406
Bonifacio .363
Kalish .345
Ruggiano .343
Schierholtz .261
Barney .250



OBA/SLG
CF Bonifacio .326/.363
RF Kalish .309/.345/Ruggiano .308/.343
SS Castro .320/.452
1B Rizzo .407/.454
LF Lake .307/.477
2B Valbuena .375/.426 Barney .250/.250
3B Olt .254/.430
C Castillo .294/.406

Schierholtz PH .264/.261
 

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I would be more inclined to stick alcantara to center over Castro. Alcantara isn't very good at short and would have to grow through big growing pains like castro


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Agreed on Alcantara, however, with all this jumbling of players and them playing different positions, the only thing I see it doing is buying another year of waiting because it would be hard to go and get a free agent player for the future when you don't know where your "all-eggs-in-one-basket" farm players are going to play.

Damn it! If nothing else, they better go out and find a couple of really good pitchers this off-season.
 

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Agreed on Alcantara, however, with all this jumbling of players and them playing different positions, the only thing I see it doing is buying another year of waiting because it would be hard to go and get a free agent player for the future when you don't know where your "all-eggs-in-one-basket" farm players are going to play.

Damn it! If nothing else, they better go out and find a couple of really good pitchers this off-season.

Well considering the hitters who will be available are pretty garbage and the amount of cash the cubs should have they really have no reason to be out bid on someone they want. The fact alone that Soriano's $14 mil is coming off the books is more than half of a top tier pitcher's potential deal. In all honesty, when they presumably trade Hammel I hope they get back an outfielder rather than a pitching prospect because I doubt we see much if any of Soler and Almora next year and the outfield this year is garbage to be blunt. They can buy more pitching next year but I don't see any real solutions in the OF there.
 

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OH GOD

Cubs sign Manny Ramirez to a minor league deal :fap:
 

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“While Manny is not and will not be a fit on the Cubs major league roster, we do think at this stage of his life he’s a nice fit as a mentor for some of the young talented hitters we have in the organization,” Epstein said in the press release. “Manny will coach full-time and play part-time in a limited role that does not take at-bats away from our prospects. If he shows there is still some magic in his bat, perhaps he will find his way to the major leagues and help another team, but that is not why he is here. We are thrilled that he wants to work with our young hitters and make a difference.”
 

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Yeah a me-first cheater is a great mentor Theo.


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For that, we could have brought back Sammy Sosa.
 

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Yeah a me-first cheater is a great mentor Theo.


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For that, we could have brought back Sammy Sosa.

That the main reason why Sammy hasn't been offered to come back yet.. its because there sdtill alot of fans that will react to him in that manner.

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