2014 Chicago Cubs In-Season Discussion Thread

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Cahill is interesting but kind of expensive for a flyer. He makes $7.7 mil this year and $12 mil next year. If he clears waivers and refuse DFA thus becoming a FA I think he's interesting.
 

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He sucked after he lost his sinker
 

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He sucked after he lost his sinker

He hasn't lost his sinker?...

He has only sucked this year. In a total of 4 starts. As a reliever he has been pretty good with a 3.04 ERA, 2.87 FIP, and 3.21 xFIP. AKA numbers that look like his career numbers. If we can get the DBacks to pick up his contract, this could be an absolute steal. I'd even be willing to trade for him. He has had 4 bad starts. He has a .400 BABIP as a starter. That's ridiculous.
 

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He hasn't lost his sinker?...

He has only sucked this year. In a total of 4 starts. As a reliever he has been pretty good with a 3.04 ERA, 2.87 FIP, and 3.21 xFIP. AKA numbers that look like his career numbers. If we can get the DBacks to pick up his contract, this could be an absolute steal. I'd even be willing to trade for him. He has had 4 bad starts. He has a .400 BABIP as a starter. That's ridiculous.

His sinker has been a lot more hitable this year and I think that's what he means. Batters are hitting .312/.424/.519 vs his sinker this year. Compare that with his great 2010 and you're talking about .224/.306/.313. His change up has also been getting crushed this year too .310/.355/.414. Again, considering his 2010 year it was .204/.230/.359 and that's probably another issue. His top 3 pitchers are Sinker(394), Curve(135) and Change(100). Velocity appears to be similar to the other years. It doesn't look like the movement on the pitches has changed according to pitch f/x.

It might just be bad luck. Without diving deeper I can't say from the numbers. His BABIP on both pitches is elevated quite a bit.
 

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His sinker has been a lot more hitable this year and I think that's what he means. Batters are hitting .312/.424/.519 vs his sinker this year. Compare that with his great 2010 and you're talking about .224/.306/.313. His change up has also been getting crushed this year too .310/.355/.414. Again, considering his 2010 year it was .204/.230/.359 and that's probably another issue. His top 3 pitchers are Sinker(394), Curve(135) and Change(100). Velocity appears to be similar to the other years. It doesn't look like the movement on the pitches has changed according to pitch f/x.

It might just be bad luck. Without diving deeper I can't say from the numbers. His BABIP on both pitches is elevated quite a bit.

That's also a very small sample size. His numbers since going into relief are much better. I would be interested to see the pitch f/x of just his starts. He's also only 26. I think he's worth the chance at a low price. Let him work with Bosio, maybe he turns it around. Maybe he doesn't. This is a risk that I like in our favor.
 

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I think this is the right thread for this.
When is the time for Cubs fans to expect the team to get serious and try to actually build a true competitive team.
Years and years of restocking the farm only goes so far.
Flipping talent only goes so far.
I remember when Cubs boards, when they were competitive, had at least 50 posters talking it up.
Now, boards are consumed by say..... 5 to 10 people that know more than all the other fans that used to post on Cub message boards.
Could it be apathy? Ricketts worst fear?
 

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I think this is the right thread for this.
When is the time for Cubs fans to expect the team to get serious and try to actually build a true competitive team.
Years and years of restocking the farm only goes so far.
Flipping talent only goes so far.
I remember when Cubs boards, when they were competitive, had at least 50 posters talking it up.
Now, boards are consumed by say..... 5 to 10 people that know more than all the other fans that used to post on Cub message boards.
Could it be apathy? Ricketts worst fear?
Probably 100 years. We're good at that.
 

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http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/cubs/

PITTSBURGH -- On the same night Chicago Cubs first baseman Anthony Rizzo was expressing his confidence at the plate, teammate Mike Olt's body language wasn't revealing anything close to it.

Olt didn't start against the Pittsburgh Pirates on Wednesday; instead, he flied out as a pinch hitter. But when lefty Francisco Liriano was on the mound Tuesday Olt was in there because he's back to being a platoon player.
But watching two called strike threes prompted Cubs manager Rick Renteria to pinch hit for Olt as soon as the Pirates brought in a righty. His replacement, Luis Valbuena, promptly doubled home two runs and helped win the game for the Cubs. It was another tough night in a frustrating season for Olt, who is trying to keep his head up.

"I've been in these things before," he said before Wednesday's game. "Everyone has. Just have to go back to relaxing and forget about everything else."

But can he? With every passing day, the call for new blood from the minors goes out while Valbuena is having a good season himself. Meanwhile, Olt is hitting .150 with 57 strikeouts in 140 at-bats.

That batting average and those strikeouts stick out like sore thumbs. He has played in only five games this season during which he has had more than one at-bat without striking out at least once.

According to ESPN Stats & Information, he'd rank 10th worst in swing-and-miss percentage (34.2) if he had enough at-bats to qualify. And he puts himself in a pitcher's count in 52.8 percent of his plate appearances; that's almost 10 points higher than the league average.

"You get into a funk and fall behind in the count," Olt said. "That happened earlier in the season."

Olt seems to be replaying the early portion of his season. And falling behind in the count has been his Achilles' heel.

He started out as a somewhat struggling part-time player, but his mammoth power kept him in the game. His playing time increased as he reached nine home runs by mid-May, then a new slide occurred. And he hasn't been able to come out of it. He's still stuck on nine homers.

So back to the bench he went.

He says none of his issues are health related. Olt had his troubles last season due to vision problems, but he claims that's not a problem now.

"When a guy isn't getting the results and looks like he's pressing you do have to be mindful," Cubs manager Rick Renteria said. "You know you have an extreme amount of confidence in them. The thing is them believing in themselves."

There's that word again: confidence. Rizzo expressed how much he has it. On Tuesday, Rizzo homered and doubled twice. Olt is trying to find his again.

"Baseball is all about confidence," Olt said. "Obviously, I'm not as confident now. You're going to go through times when you're not confident and still get hits. When you get that feeling back you go with it."

Time might be running out from him to get it back.

Renteria hasn't intimated that a change might occur, but everyone knows the Cubs will make some trades and roster spots will open. A shuffling of the deck is bound to happen and that could find Olt, who is hitless in June with seven strikeouts, back in the minors.

"I'm not worried about that," Olt said. "I'm just going to work hard to get back on track. When you're in the minor leagues, you're not worried about when you're moving up. It's the same here. I'm not thinking about that stuff."

Renteria has shown patience, but that doesn't mean it will last forever.

"Is there a moment when you sit back and say, 'Do we have to make an adjustment?'" Renteria asked rhetorically. "Yeah, but that's not where we're at right now."
 

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The Cubs have agreed to ink catcher Yorvit Torrealba to a minor league deal, reports Mark Gonzales of the Chicago Tribune (via Twitter). The 35-year-old is a veteran of 13 MLB seasons.

Torrealba, a part-time player for most of his career, saw significant action last year for the Rockies. He posted a .240/.295/.285 line in 196 plate appearances on the year. Torrealba spent the spring with the Angels, but opted out of his deal when it became clear that he would not make the active roster.

Torrealba should provide a depth option for the club. With Welington Castillo on the 15-day DL, the Cubs have rolled out a combination of John Baker and Eli Whiteside at catcher.

Not really a big signing but the cubs have been pretty disappointing at C hitting wise.
 

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Sizemore was DFA. Wonder if he is worth a look see.

.216/,288/.324

He would fit right in at least.

But seriouslly if he could rebound he could be a short term fix in the OF. Better than Cog etc who never really were good in the first place.
 

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Pirates outrighted Jose Tabata. If he rejects the assignment he could become a FA. If that happens I wouldn't mind seeing the cubs take a shot on him. He's a career .275/.338/.380 hitter and he's only 25.
 

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Pirates outrighted Jose Tabata. If he rejects the assignment he could become a FA. If that happens I wouldn't mind seeing the cubs take a shot on him. He's a career .275/.338/.380 hitter and he's only 25.
might have some comp with the southside on that one

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He really is not exciting.

1522 ab's .275/.338/.380 *17 HR's. 47 SB.

He really is meh. Nothing stands out.

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