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Obviously moving to a 3-4.
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I also wanted to continue on this, it would essentially make this a 5 year $90 million deal correct?
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So, people are taking a Brandon Marshall tweet as official breaking news?
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Well, let's just hope that by signing Cutler to this massive contract, he will finally be able to turn the corner and overcome the refs so the Bears can win.
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How do you know that wasn't what the Bears offered him and merely took it?
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I bet you, no! I think it was seven.
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I would rather have Jay at 18 million than
Stafford at 17.6
Romo at 17.1
Ryan at 20
Those guys have all had more to work with and done less and I don't think any of them are going to win anything before Cutler.
Stafford has a 2-23 record against teams that finish the season with winning records and just collapsed in the home stretch.
Stafford at 17.6
Romo at 17.1
Ryan at 20
Those guys have all had more to work with and done less and I don't think any of them are going to win anything before Cutler.
Stafford has a 2-23 record against teams that finish the season with winning records and just collapsed in the home stretch.
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Out of curiosity, why do folks think that Shea can pass rush any better out of a 3-4? He can't pass rush at all. Maybe blitz, but not pass rush. For what I think, we stay 4-3 and they try Shea out at MLB, if he makes an impression great, if he doesn't so be it. Move Bostic over to ILB, probably even draft a LB. Time will tell.
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7 for 126 is 18 per year. But I'd imagine it's heavily backloaded. Which means we'll end up paying way less than 18/year.
The question is how much is in the signing bonus (which can be spread for 5 years). And then how much is each of the first five years salary. That's his real contract. After that he'll get dumped when his salary is something crazy like 25 mil a year the last two years.
This could be a very Bears friendly contract, even with 126 mil be the number.
The question is how much is in the signing bonus (which can be spread for 5 years). And then how much is each of the first five years salary. That's his real contract. After that he'll get dumped when his salary is something crazy like 25 mil a year the last two years.
This could be a very Bears friendly contract, even with 126 mil be the number.
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$54 million is guaranteed. I don't believe the $54 million has to be only in the form of a sigining bonus.
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The thing is they could have given him a 20 yr/ 500M contract, it doesnt matter. The important #'s are signing bonus and salaries in the first 4-5 yrs. The later years of JC's contract are like Peppers current deal, he wasn't going to see the $14M base salary in 2014 even if he had a good yr. Those numbers are for show and average. They actually allow for a lower early cap # without appearing to be a low priced deal.
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Because when they used him on the line in a stand up role he was actually doing fairly well. Go figure, Tucker decided to not use what worked for him. NO SOUP FOR YOU!
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The front office believes in Cutty, his coach does, and his team does too. I'm a fan of the Bears regardless of who is taking snaps, but I like this move. For everyone bitching about the dollar amount, this is the NFL going forward. You aren't going to be able to offer a talented quarterback peanuts. Pretty soon any decent QB not under a rookie deal is going to get PAID. If we didn't get give Jay this money, some other team would have been glad to pay him. I have no doubt that this offense is going to keep getting better and more experienced. Replace Garza, get Forte a cheaper backup, get another year under the belt for Wilson, Mills, and Long. Hopefully Emery and Trestman can retool the defense this year. I'm excited about the future.
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Yep you are right, I forget it can only be spread over 5 years. However if it's a signing bonus it has to be allocated over 5 years. You don't have the option to allocate it over shorter period unless you give Cutler a termination right after 3 years similar to what they did with Earl Bennett. Although, 54 million over 3 years is 18 million a year which would make for a massive cap hit. I can't imagine why the Bears would want to do that given all the defensive needs.
In any event, it will be interesting to see how the final salary cap numbers shake out and maybe some of that 54 million is guarantees over the base salary for the first 3 years or something like that.
Yep forgot that it is 5 years. I am wondering now if some of the base salary is being guaranteed to make up some of that 54 million.
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Why does Emery, or anyone, not give the contract details, when they eventually come out anyway?
Of Course, I'd like to see what Cutler is earning the first 4 years, and the incentives, bonuses and guarenteed.
Just based on the average (18/yr) I think 18 million per year is most definately overpaying Cutler based on his current preformance, trend and age, and especially number of years on the contract (seven). And how about a hometown discount? But without the per year amounts, that doesn't really say much.
Of Course, I'd like to see what Cutler is earning the first 4 years, and the incentives, bonuses and guarenteed.
Just based on the average (18/yr) I think 18 million per year is most definately overpaying Cutler based on his current preformance, trend and age, and especially number of years on the contract (seven). And how about a hometown discount? But without the per year amounts, that doesn't really say much.