2014 Jay Cutler Discussion Thread

[onebud34]

Nope, Jay Cutler may or may not be responsible depending on what happened. Every play is unique and not a bulletin board. You made a statement and are afraid to answer said question because if it is true relieves Cutler from responsibility and the last thing you want is to remove responsibility. You're just that way. I read your posts.

Bad defense that don't cover receivers on fourth and 8 is not a Cutler interception. It is a blown coverage and on the defense. If that score causes the team to lose that ain't on cutler no matter if he has given up an interception or not.

You do crack me up though with your Cutler hate.

As I stated earlier...you do not understand the subject.

 

[Scoot26]

But the defense was bad LOL, it had nothing to do with Cutler. The defense sucked and lost us a lot of games. Cutler still finished in the top half of the NFL, and he looked slightly better than the past few years. My issue is that he had a lot more weapons this year so I expected his game to pick up more. I am hopinh it had to do with rust from the injury because he looked a little better and the beginning of the season.

We'll see what happens with more stability in the system. As I've said before he had improvement within Martz' system.

 

[jc456]

But the defense was bad LOL, it had nothing to do with Cutler. The defense sucked and lost us a lot of games. Cutler still finished in the top half of the NFL, and he looked slightly better than the past few years. My issue is that he had a lot more weapons this year so I expected his game to pick up more. I am hopinh it had to do with rust from the injury because he looked a little better and the beginning of the season.

Do you have any reason to believe that if Cutler sucks, that Trestman won't pull him? do you have that little faith in the coaches?

 

[jc456]

As I stated earlier...you do not understand the subject.

Sure.....I........do. You are avoiding the obvious answer to a logical question to justify a poor post. Poor post, illogical post. One that sits out there as stank!

 

[onebud34]

But the defense was bad LOL, it had nothing to do with Cutler. The defense sucked and lost us a lot of games. Cutler still finished in the top half of the NFL, and he looked slightly better than the past few years. My issue is that he had a lot more weapons this year so I expected his game to pick up more. I am hopinh it had to do with rust from the injury because he looked a little better and the beginning of the season.

We can all hope...McCown looked a lot better with the same weapons and shit D.

 

[jc456]

We can all hope...McCown looked a lot better with the same weapons and shit D.

And won only three out of five. How come he lost? Did Cutler cause those two losses?

 

[onebud34]

Sure.....I........do. You are avoiding the obvious answer to a logical question to justify a poor post. Poor post, illogical post. One that sits out there as stank!

So the 5 TD's or was it 6 TO's returned for a TD this year was the defenses fault?

 

[Jester]

We'll see what happens with more stability in the system. As I've said before he had improvement within Martz' system.

Yes he did once Mart started to shorten the field and using Forte as well. Took Martz a while for sure though. He also had a terrible offensive line during Martz era and got killed.

 

[jc456]

So the 5 TD's or was it 6 TO's returned for a TD this year was the defenses fault?

Nope, I never ever posted that.

 

[ijustposthere]

So the 5 TD's or was it 6 TO's returned for a TD this year was the defenses fault?

Yeah, they were supposed to be "almost INTs."

 

[onebud34]

And won only three out of five. How come he lost? Did Cutler cause those two losses?

Well, we know the 6 out of the 11 Cutler lost was solely the D's fault.

 

[HeHateMe]

Nope, Jay Cutler may or may not be responsible depending on what happened. Every play is unique and not a bulletin board. You made a statement and are afraid to answer said question because if it is true relieves Cutler from responsibility and the last thing you want is to remove responsibility. You're just that way. I read your posts.

Bad defense that don't cover receivers on fourth and 8 is not a Cutler interception. It is a blown coverage and on the defense. If that score causes the team to lose that ain't on cutler no matter if he has given up an interception or not.

You do crack me up though with your Cutler hate.

This seems to be a common argument amongst Cutler fanboys. It moves fair criticism of Cutler to the backburner and puts blame on losing games on another party, but I don't think I've seen any "hater" excuse the defense for their poor play.

It's not about blame, it's about winning games.

The irony here is that the "ringleaders" of cutler "hatred" are very much concerned about the state of the defense, and saw an exit from the Cutler era as a possible avenue for getting the D fixed. Those guys do cost money too, you know...

 

[onebud34]

Nope, I never ever posted that.

You're finally catching on to the subject

 

[Jester]

We can all hope...McCown looked a lot better with the same weapons and shit D.

He looked more consistent but it was only a small amount of games and did play some bad defenses as well. McCown did great when he came in though, there is no doubt about that. That's why I am conflicted whether or not we should have spent the money. Every other backup looked like shit when they came in for Cutler so it was clear Cutler was far superior. I just want some consistency and Cutler is average to above average and I believe that's what Emery was thinking on the re-signing, which is understandable.

 

[jc456]

Yes he did once Mart started to shorten the field and using Forte as well. Took Martz a while for sure though. He also had a terrible offensive line during Martz era and got killed.

That's just an excuse. comeon man! Cutler doesn't deserve excuses. He has to be God and invincible. The greatest QB that is playing today only has one SB ring in his entire career. But Cutler is not supposed to have bad games or poor choices. He is only allowed to perform well or the entire game is on him. No matter what else plays out.

 

[Bears4Ever_34]

Anybody listening to 670? Spiegel claims to have a source that tells him that Cutler gets a pro-rated bonus, making his cap hit in year 1 only 11.5. He's posting the numbers on twitter shortly, in case anybody is interested.

Doesn't mean it's accurate, just interesting to speculate and hope its true. 22.5 would be ridiculous, given the needs on defense.

 

[Jester]

Do you have any reason to believe that if Cutler sucks, that Trestman won't pull him? do you have that little faith in the coaches?

Who knows, he didn't pull him for McCown this year. He started right when he was healthy, they didn't go with "the hot hand", McCown.

 

[jc456]

He looked more consistent but it was only a small amount of games and did play some bad defenses as well. McCown did great when he came in though, there is no doubt about that. That's why I am conflicted whether or not we should have spent the money. Every other backup looked like shit when they came in for Cutler so it was clear Cutler was far superior. I just want some consistency and Cutler is average to above average and I believe that's what Emery was thinking on the re-signing, which is understandable.

What about Nick Foles? He look bad as a backup?

 

[iueyedoc]

Why do you think a lack of belief in Cutler equates to bitterness? Is Cutler so untouchable that a person is obliged to conform to your opinion otherwise they're bitter/trolls/haters?

Not at all, and it's not my opinion, I was indifferent to their decision about JC, but your insistence that the Bears are fated to suck until Cutler is gone, constant belittling of anyone that thinks different than you as ignorant, that football minds smarter than any on this board can't see what is obvious to you, and your twice stated desire that he be severely injured points to foul emotional feelings (bitterness) beyond analytical disapproval.

 

[onebud34]

He looked more consistent but it was only a small amount of games and did play some bad defenses as well. McCown did great when he came in though, there is no doubt about that. That's why I am conflicted whether or not we should have spent the money. Every other backup looked like shit when they came in for Cutler so it was clear Cutler was far superior. I just want some consistency and Cutler is average to above average and I believe that's what Emery was thinking on the re-signing, which is understandable.

We shall see...if he puts up play like he has for the 3 years into the contract...he probably won't be here for a 4th year.