2015-2016 Blackhawks Off season thread

[Shantz My Pants]

Sharp will be gone for a 1st rounder and a prospect type deal. Florida seems like a perfect spot for him, and Tallon will probably overpay knowing that he needs to try to make the playoffs ASAP.

Bickell should be traded, but the Hawks will have to eat some salary and throw in a prospect to make it happen.

They will resign Saad and Kruger.

Wouldn't be surprised to see Shaw traded since he is a RFA after next season, and guys like Danault, Ross, etc. can probably more easily replace him.

Now way Vermette is back. He is probably the best UFA forward available this summer (not saying much). He can get 4-5 million easily.

I think Richards comes back for 1.5 million or so. Desjardins is resigned for around 1 million, but Oduya and Rozsival sign elsewhere.

I'd absolutely love to trade Crawford while his value is peaked, but that's a pipedream.

Shaw is not going anywhere even though he's an RFA next season. He's not someone that is going to be getting 4 million a year. Plus, he's cheap right now and a bargain for his salary. Not worth trading him for the Hawks especially when you are trying to keep as many guys as possible that are valuable to your team. Doesn't make sense.

I'd like to see the Hawks get a 1st rounder for Sharpie, but I wouldn't be surprised if they get a 2nd rounder max.

Hawks cannot eat Bickells salary. More than likely he is headed to a team who needs to get to the floor.


Sent from my Texas Instrument Calculator

 

[Shantz My Pants]

Plus, sounds like Florida is willing to trade their pick and who would they rather have, Phil Kessel or Sharp? One is still in his peak while the other is leaving his.


Sent from my Texas Instrument Calculator

 

[Probie2429]

Shaw is not going anywhere even though he's an RFA next season. He's not someone that is going to be getting 4 million a year. Plus, he's cheap right now and a bargain for his salary. Not worth trading him for the Hawks especially when you are trying to keep as many guys as possible that are valuable to your team. Doesn't make sense.

I'd like to see the Hawks get a 1st rounder for Sharpie, but I wouldn't be surprised if they get a 2nd rounder max.

Hawks cannot eat Bickells salary. More than likely he is headed to a team who needs to get to the floor.


Sent from my Texas Instrument Calculator

Hawks traded Brouwer and the reasoning for not trading him was more or less the same. Hawks have to make room in the bottom six for the plethora of prospects they have accumulated since 2010. It's much easier to replace a 4th liner like Shaw than a guy like Saad in the top 6. Not saying it's 100 % certainty, but I wouldn't be completely surprised if it did happen.

 

[Probie2429]

Plus, sounds like Florida is willing to trade their pick and who would they rather have, Phil Kessel or Sharp? One is still in his peak while the other is leaving his.


Sent from my Texas Instrument Calculator

Kessel will be tough to move this season as his salary is actually 10 million (cap hit 8 million) for this upcoming season. I would say next offseason when his salary is less than his cap hit will be the more ideal time for other teams to be interested. I think Toronto would also like to see what Babcock could do with Kessel anyway to try to increase his value. It won't hurt the Loafs much as they are rebuilding regardless.

Kessel as good as a goal scorer that he can be is awful defensively. I don't see a team that is interested in winning a Cup wanting any part of him. You need to play a well balanced game to win a Cup or even go on a deep playoff run. Sharp is older yes, but he also is signed for only 2 more years. His cap hit is less than Kessel's, and he has a very established winning pedigree. Winning in the NHL has a lot to do with culture as is evident by the way the Hawks build their team. Every rental they acquire says the same thing how this core of players prepares itself like no one else in the NHL. That stuff is contagious, and the plug and chug model the Hawks employ outside their core group works beautifully in this type of environment.

 

[Shantz My Pants]

Hawks traded Brouwer and the reasoning for not trading him was more or less the same. Hawks have to make room in the bottom six for the plethora of prospects they have accumulated since 2010. It's much easier to replace a 4th liner like Shaw than a guy like Saad in the top 6. Not saying it's 100 % certainty, but I wouldn't be completely surprised if it did happen.

The caps also offered a 1st rounder for Brouwer, which for his spot on the depth chart you take every time. If someone offered a 1st for Shaw I'd take it as well.

We have guys in the AHL who can play both wing and center, take faceoffs, play on the PP/screen the goalie, be aggressive on the forecheck, willing to drop the gloves, play on any line, defensively responsible and put up 30 points a season?

Why give up a guy who does all of that, makes 1/5 the salary/cap hit your superstars make, to bring up some rookies will make 1 million less? The only reason you bring up guys to play in the bottom six over a guy like Shaw is because they are either a) better or b) cheaper and it's not like they are that much cheaper.


Sent from my Texas Instrument Calculator

 

[ClydeLee]

It's completely idiotic to trade Shaw unless you have someone who can replace his value.

There wasn't any fear of the value of Brouwer not being replaced, he wasn't even seemingly growing any more as a player and never produced in the post-season. Bickell-Frolik-Stalberg all deemed to be better cheaper fits, or Frolik was the same price, that fit the bill and had experience of playing.

There is no reason to trust you can replace what you have in Shaw yet. You have nobody else who is experienced and skilled at screening the goalie. Nobody has really flashed enough out of the AHL guys to make you certain you can fill that role well enough to be fine without it on the PP. Ross or Hartman may be able to be chirper agitators in the same way but how well they can play around the net or across the ice on the NHL level isn't seen. I'd only trade Shaw if it was desperate cap needing and that'd be well after I traded Versteeg.

 

[Shantz My Pants]

Screening the goalie isn't so much of a skill as being willing to take the abuse from the defenders. I can teach a youth hockey player to screen the goalie. I can't teach said youth hockey player to not be afraid of cross checks to the back.

But I agree with you on your points Clyde.


Sent from my Texas Instrument Calculator

 

[Shantz My Pants]

Just got a notification that the Hawks are in the preliminary stage of Sharp trade discussions. Unfortunately this isn't any new news. Let me know when he's traded.


Sent from my Texas Instrument Calculator

 

[winos5]

Is he traded yet?

 

[Shantz My Pants]

This seasons cap will be 71.4 million according to TheScore sports app. Which means the Hawks have 7,354,800 in cap space right now. I've updated the first post to reflect this.


Sent from my Texas Instrument Calculator

 

[Probie2429]

71.4 is a best case scenario for the Hawks. Trade Sharp and Bickell, and they have over 17 million in cap space to work with. Should be doable.

 

[fatbeard]

71.4 is a best case scenario for the Hawks. Trade Sharp and Bickell, and they have over 17 million in cap space to work with. Should be doable.

Good news. The only way 71.4 becomes difficult is if they have to retain money in order to deal Bickell.

 

[winos5]

Is he traded yet?

 

[MassHavoc]

They keeping Darling as backup for next year?

 

[Raskolnikov]

I would like to see Raanta or Darling traded for a high pick. Darling should be worth a first, imo by TDL if he plays as well as he did last year.

 

[Ares]

I would like to see Raanta or Darling traded for a high pick. Darling should be worth a first, imo by TDL if he plays as well as he did last year.

I would keep Darling... he showed he could play as well or better than Crawford in a playoff series.... he also had his down moments like Crow, but I would hang on to Darling and trade Raanta.

 

[Probie2429]

I would like to see Raanta or Darling traded for a high pick. Darling should be worth a first, imo by TDL if he plays as well as he did last year.

Darling is not worth a first. Maybe a 5th. Regardless, there are so many goalies available this summer that supply is going to outstrip demand and trade returns will plummet as a result.

 

[Probie2429]

Is he traded yet?

Friday night most likely.

 

[Shantz My Pants]

I would like to see Raanta or Darling traded for a high pick. Darling should be worth a first, imo by TDL if he plays as well as he did last year.

Darling a 1st rounder?? Guys only played 15 games in the NHL for the best team in the NHL.


Sent from my Texas Instrument Calculator

 

[CRM 114]

At least we have a little bit more salary cap space.