2015 Cubs Offseason Discussion

[chibears55]

Just because im curious... Brett what player or players today would you consider a pure hitter

 

[brett05]

Just because im curious... Brett what player or players today would you consider a pure hitter

Let me think about it...great question

 

[brett05]

Ichiro would be one

 

[chibears55]

I actually find this debate interesting about Castro..

I found a couple interesting reads on pure hitters...

http://m.espn.go.com/mlb/story?storyId=11129416&src=desktop&rand=ref~{"ref":"http://www.google.com"}

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...AeFxLgE4_X4MCwUH6rbTsVw&bvm=bv.77161500,d.aWw

 

[brett05]

I actually find this debate interesting about Castro..

I found a couple interesting reads on pure hitters...

http://m.espn.go.com/mlb/story?storyId=11129416&src=desktop&rand=ref~{"ref":"http://www.google.com"}

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...AeFxLgE4_X4MCwUH6rbTsVw&bvm=bv.77161500,d.aWw

1st link didn't work for me...second one was interesting though it misses the past two years

 

[chibears55]

1st link didn't work for me...second one was interesting though it misses the past two years

Sorry try this one

espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/11129416/mlb-best-pure-hitters

 

[beckdawg]

I think miggy is the correct answer to the best hitter. He's a career .320 hitter and gives you a 11.0% career walk rate plus all that power. Ichiro is no doubt a great hitter but he doesn't give you everything Miggy does.

 

[chibears55]

Ichiro would be one

Funny you mention ichiro cause I saw he was a FA and was thinking to myself if hed be worth a 1 yr deal at about 5-6 mil for leadoff and LF if nothing better long term is there for the taking.

This way Bryant stays at 3B at least for this year

 

[SilenceS]

I think people misunderstand a pure hitter over a elite hitter. Castro isnt an elite hitter because he doesnt offer the whole package. He is a pure hitter because he can handle any pitch to all fields. Maybe we have different translations.

 

[beckdawg]

Funny you mention ichiro cause I saw he was a FA and was thinking to myself if hed be worth a 1 yr deal at about 5-6 mil for leadoff and LF if nothing better long term is there for the taking.

This way Bryant stays at 3B at least for this year

He's going to be 41. And while he hit .284/.324/.340 that's about the most empty stats you'll find. His wRC+ was 86. Justin Ruggiano was at 113.

 

[beckdawg]

http://www.bleachernation.com/2014/...el-puig-cubs-interested-too-crazy-to-discuss/

i have no idea who George Ofman but if Puig is available that would be very interesting.

 

[brett05]

http://www.bleachernation.com/2014/...el-puig-cubs-interested-too-crazy-to-discuss/

i have no idea who George Ofman but if Puig is available that would be very interesting.

You don't live in Chicago??

He's an original Score guy nicknamed shorty and is a 780 wbbm anchor

 

[beckdawg]

You don't live in Chicago??

He's an original Score guy nicknamed shorty and is a 780 wbbm anchor

Nope. I'm farther south into Cardinal country which is why in never get CSN games :-/

 

[brett05]

I think people misunderstand a pure hitter over a elite hitter. Castro isnt an elite hitter because he doesnt offer the whole package. He is a pure hitter because he can handle any pitch to all fields. Maybe we have different translations.

I looked at Castro's spray charts. He's mostly a pull hitter with only 32 hits between the CF/RF gap and the RF line.

 

[SilenceS]

I looked at Castro's spray charts. He's mostly a pull hitter with only 32 hits between the CF/RF gap and the RF line.

No,

http://www.fangraphs.com/spraycharts.aspx?playerid=4579&position=SS&type=battedball

He is a pull homer hitter. Obviously, he doesnt have prestigious power to take them out to right field on the regular. He also pulls a lot of his ground ballls. This is what the Cubs were trying to teach him. To turn on pitches for power. His line drives are all over the field and his flyballs are all over the field. He is nothing like a pull hitter. If he was, team would shift against him. They dont at all. Dynamite analysis though. Ill leave you with a real pull hitter and read the article to learn.

http://grantland.com/features/mlb-2014-situational-hitting-challenges-beating-the-shift/

 

[SilenceS]

Nice article showing why Castro had a resurgent year and how he approached his PA. He pulled more this year because he was looking for certain pitches to turn on for power. He actually did learn a little bit of what the FO wanted.

http://www.cubsinsider.com/grading-2014-cubs-starlin-castro/

 

[brett05]

No,

http://www.fangraphs.com/spraycharts.aspx?playerid=4579&position=SS&type=battedball

He is a pull homer hitter. Obviously, he doesnt have prestigious power to take them out to right field on the regular. He also pulls a lot of his ground ballls. This is what the Cubs were trying to teach him. To turn on pitches for power. His line drives are all over the field and his flyballs are all over the field. He is nothing like a pull hitter. If he was, team would shift against him. They dont at all. Dynamite analysis though. Ill leave you with a real pull hitter and read the article to learn.

http://grantland.com/features/mlb-2014-situational-hitting-challenges-beating-the-shift/

I never said dead pull hitter

He has what 32 hits the opposite way. That does not fit your definition

 

[SilenceS]

I never said dead pull hitter

He has what 32 hits the opposite way. That does not fit your definition

I'm guessing you didn't read anything. Every player can be considered a pull hitter. Lol


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[brett05]

I'm guessing you didn't read anything. Every player can be considered a pull hitter. Lol


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[Parade_Rain]

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