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Chicago Bulls (6-8) at New Orleans Pelicans (8-6)

Projected Starters

Chicago Bulls
PG - Ayo Dosunmu
SG - Zach Lavine
SF - DeMar DeRozan
PF - Patrick Williams
C - Nikola Vucevic

New Orleans Pelicans
PG - CJ McCollum
SG - Brandon Ingram
SF - Trey Murphy
PF - Herbert Jones
C - Jonas Valanciunas

Injury Report

Chicago Bulls
Lonzo Ball - Out (Knee)
Coby White - Out (Quad)

New Orleans Pelicans
Zion Williamson - Out (Foot)
EJ Liddell - Out (Knee)
 

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Maybe we just haven’t been cunting enough for the Bulls to be good.

Pels by 10
 

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The NBA salary cap and contract situation is terrible. You have scrubs making 10 mil a year and guys who don’t really provide “max” value receiving max contracts. It’s incredibly difficult to build a team in the NBA. Not sure of a solution, and don’t foresee big changes, but it is awful.
And then you can stupid FOs giving guys like Cristiano Felicio contracts for no reason regardless of what the cap is

It is incredibly hard to build a team that contends and very easy to build a team that is a 1st round exit and there is absolutely nothing that can be done about it unless you can incept yourself into the minds of both the owners and the players' association and get them to agree on something that will keep only max level players receiving max contracts.
 

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And then you can stupid FOs giving guys like Cristiano Felicio contracts for no reason regardless of what the cap is

It is incredibly hard to build a team that contends and very easy to build a team that is a 1st round exit and there is absolutely nothing that can be done about it unless you can incept yourself into the minds of both the owners and the players' association and get them to agree on something that will keep only max level players receiving max contracts.

I think you could possibly start by pointing out the product has been and is suffering. I haven’t been this disinterested in the NBA for a long time and it seems like every year my interest level diminishes even more.

Maybe do away with max contracts? Don’t offer fully GTD contracts like the NFL so it’ll be easier to move on and restructure your franchise if a player gets injured or underperforms. Maybe only have 2-3 year deals max? Of course, none of this will fly with the NBAPA.

Also, I hate the lottery system. Give the worst teams the best picks. People will say it will promote tanking and if so, who cares? It’s not like the league is super watchable as it is. If a terrible team wants to somehow be even more terrible, go ahead.
 

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The level of cunting did drop off here recently. Is it mere coincidence the bulls have been losing??
 

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The level of cunting did drop off here recently. Is it mere coincidence the bulls have been losing??
Clearly we've not been doing our part

Pels are coming off a back to back and will come out like they've had a week of rest while the Bulls will look like they've played 8 games in 12 days
 

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I think you could possibly start by pointing out the product has been and is suffering. I haven’t been this disinterested in the NBA for a long time and it seems like every year my interest level diminishes even more.

Maybe do away with max contracts? Don’t offer fully GTD contracts like the NFL so it’ll be easier to move on and restructure your franchise if a player gets injured or underperforms. Maybe only have 2-3 year deals max? Of course, none of this will fly with the NBAPA.

Also, I hate the lottery system. Give the worst teams the best picks. People will say it will promote tanking and if so, who cares? It’s not like the league is super watchable as it is. If a terrible team wants to somehow be even more terrible, go ahead.
You'd be right, but those things would be hard to sell in the next CBA. I couldn't say what the TV ratings are, but I'm sure they're good enough to show the product isn't suffering enough to change. Heck it seems the TV deals keep making the cap things worse

No max contracts would be interesting, if it meant that the true supers could make some ludicrous amount of money and maybe dominate a whole team's cap. But as mentioned, the players will never agree, so it's a nonstarter in reality. Maybe something like players who meet particular criteria can make a new level of supermax, trying to separate out those true supers from the rest. But then I feel like the owners wouldn't consider it lol

The lotto is what it is, idk a good way to deal with the draft. You could just have it entirely by record again, some teams would really be unwatchable for some time then
 

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The Pels announcer just called Vuc not a true center lol
 

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Pat is averaging like 3 travels a game recently
 

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Vuc shooting too many 3s already
 

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An improbable defensive adjustment to run zone and it's working what the heck
 

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Caruso just got out Caruso'd by Alvarado lol
 

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Got somewhere to be and can't watch the rest but I think we all know where this is going...

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I think you could possibly start by pointing out the product has been and is suffering. I haven’t been this disinterested in the NBA for a long time and it seems like every year my interest level diminishes even more.

Maybe do away with max contracts? Don’t offer fully GTD contracts like the NFL so it’ll be easier to move on and restructure your franchise if a player gets injured or underperforms. Maybe only have 2-3 year deals max? Of course, none of this will fly with the NBAPA.

Also, I hate the lottery system. Give the worst teams the best picks. People will say it will promote tanking and if so, who cares? It’s not like the league is super watchable as it is. If a terrible team wants to somehow be even more terrible, go ahead.
The owners want max contracts, or at least they're the ones who fought for it. Fully guaranteed contracts have been a thing forever in the NBA and is never going away. Contracts have been getting smaller over the years, but that's also generally the players who don't want to get stuck in long term deals with the way the cap has been rising. So you could actually start to see 2-3 year max deals. Historically owners loved locking up a great player on longer deals.

The lottery exists for one reason and one reason only. David Stern hated tanking. It's just kept on. I personally hate the lottery too and it literally does nothing to stop tanking. I think there a different methods of tanking too. The 2007 Celtics purposefully not playing Paul Pierce so they'd be more likely to lose games is bad tanking. Trading away your entire team for G-league level players to tank... well that's the product you're willing to put on the court, and you're gonna get less ticket revenue certainly, but to me that's less harmful to the league than star players sitting out. I think the league could regulate some of that kind of stuff, but they shouldn't regulate a team trading away all their good players because they want to rebuild via the draft.

But the thing is I've studied this stuff for a long time now, and well, it is very hard to build a team in the NBA. As clone mentioned, there's maybe 10 guys you can build a team around, and maybe only 3-4 of those guys per era will actually win titles. The NBA is a superstar/dynasty driven league and always has been. But how a owner chooses to build their team can be frustrating to fans. Most owners want to make a profit, so being a playoff team is often good enough to get to that point. Given how hard it is to get their hands on one of those 10 guys, they may just give up at that point and say "good enough" until luck strikes and something lands in their lap. Other teams are just bad at building no matter what they do (Wizards for example).
 

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You'd be right, but those things would be hard to sell in the next CBA. I couldn't say what the TV ratings are, but I'm sure they're good enough to show the product isn't suffering enough to change. Heck it seems the TV deals keep making the cap things worse

No max contracts would be interesting, if it meant that the true supers could make some ludicrous amount of money and maybe dominate a whole team's cap. But as mentioned, the players will never agree, so it's a nonstarter in reality. Maybe something like players who meet particular criteria can make a new level of supermax, trying to separate out those true supers from the rest. But then I feel like the owners wouldn't consider it lol

The lotto is what it is, idk a good way to deal with the draft. You could just have it entirely by record again, some teams would really be unwatchable for some time then
I will say, I've advocated for eliminating max contracts and LeBron should have had like a billion dollar contract at some point for being the best player. It also would prevent super teams from forming and likely get some sort of NBA parity.

But guess what? The general NBA fan doesn't like parity and they want to see superstar NBA Finals matchups.
 

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You guys aren't cunting hard enough.
 

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