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BornJune 20, 1994 (age 25)
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Height5 ft 10 in (178 cm)
Weight176 lb (80 kg; 12 st 8 lb)
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Drake'Jewels' Caggiula (born June 20, 1994) is a Canadian professional ice hockey forward currently playing for the Chicago Blackhawks of the National Hockey League (NHL).

I thought I proved it was what the players call him, both for his name and the fact he is missing some jewels in his mouth.
I guess I will go back to calligula, or just write Cajewela to keep you happy.
In the same vein though, Debrincat is more widely known on message boards as "Cat" than "Brinsky".

My personal opinion: in printed form Caggiula <-> Caligula is a better connection that Caggiula <-> Jewels. Maybe not spoken, but printed and I think that kinda prevails.

But I'm in glass houses here...I call Debrincat "El Gato" which, much like Ex-lax, irritates the shit out of some 'hawk fans.
 

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In the same vein though, Debrincat is more widely known on message boards as "Cat" than "Brinsky".

My personal opinion: in printed form Caggiula <-> Caligula is a better connection that Caggiula <-> Jewels. Maybe not spoken, but printed and I think that kinda prevails.

But I'm in glass houses here...I call Debrincat "El Gato" which, much like Ex-lax, irritates the shit out of some 'hawk fans.

I believe El Gato originated with me, for no rhyme or reason except "Cat" wasn't popular yet and El Gato is one of the great spanish words.

I can understand why its an irritant, and everyone wants to tell you he isn't Mexican despite his height, but to reinforce the concept I might start to go with "El Gato Negro"

What it lacks in realism, it makes up for in appropriate mystique. The guy is a spook of a hockey player. Makes no sense either. Might as well be the Black cat.
 

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In the same vein though, Debrincat is more widely known on message boards as "Cat" than "Brinsky".

My personal opinion: in printed form Caggiula <-> Caligula is a better connection that Caggiula <-> Jewels. Maybe not spoken, but printed and I think that kinda prevails.

But I'm in glass houses here...I call Debrincat "El Gato" which, much like Ex-lax, irritates the shit out of some 'hawk fans.

Yeah, but we have never been threatened by swing of the dick moderation for using cat.
 

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I believe El Gato originated with me, for no rhyme or reason except "Cat" wasn't popular yet and El Gato is one of the great spanish words.

I can understand why its an irritant, and everyone wants to tell you he isn't Mexican despite his height, but to reinforce the concept I might start to go with "El Gato Negro"

What it lacks in realism, it makes up for in appropriate mystique. The guy is a spook of a hockey player. Makes no sense either. Might as well be the Black cat.
Yeah, but we have never been threatened by swing of the dick moderation for using cat.
To be fair, the irritation of "El Gato" wasn't on this board, and I do think it's a great nickname for him (and they should play "Cat Scratch Fever" when he scores a hattie, but I digress...)

Not a mod, though. Never want to be one. I just don't like "Jewels" as a nickname even if it wasn't applied to Caggiula--IMHO it's worse than "Brinsky". It just doesn't have the awesome great (i.e. "Hammer" or "Hjammer" for Hjalmarsson), or awesome horrible (like Alexander Semin's "Jizz" nickname). it's just kinda "meh." like Brinsky imho.
 

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Drake Caggiula


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Drake Caggiula
BornJune 20, 1994 (age 25)
Pickering, Ontario, Canada
Height5 ft 10 in (178 cm)
Weight176 lb (80 kg; 12 st 8 lb)
PositionRight Wing
ShootsLeft
NHL team
Former teams
Chicago Blackhawks
Edmonton Oilers
NHL DraftUndrafted
Playing career2016–present
Drake'Jewels' Caggiula (born June 20, 1994) is a Canadian professional ice hockey forward currently playing for the Chicago Blackhawks of the National Hockey League (NHL).

I thought I proved it was what the players call him, both for his name and the fact he is missing some jewels in his mouth.
I guess I will go back to calligula, or just write Cajewela to keep you happy.
Good, then it's settled.
 

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I thought they got their new Shaw in Jewels. They seem to have the same game, Jewels is just not as in a hurry to go start crap at the net, but rarely gets stupid penalties. This happened years ago when Kruger left the first time, we had plenty in house to cover the fourth line center and penalty kill guy, but they got him back anyway. But Bowman keeps going along and it never seems like there is any heat on him. I know McDonuts wants to give Bowman a shot with the first head coach he was able to hire here, but it clearly does not seem to be working.

As far as Kane being disinterested, all last year I said give the man the A he deserves and stop this crap with seabroke wearing it. Two years now Kane has gotten team mates together in Florida in the off season, and usually puts up multiple points when he has the A on his sweater. He isnt gonna get a raise, give him the recognition he deserves.

Kane will very likely end up being the best player in Chicago history as a forward. He broke into the league just as they were banning enforcers and speeding the game up. Small players weren't as lucky as today it was Kane that led the way. He was the first of the so called special players.
 

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Dach is going to play tentative I believe he talked of the more physical nature of the minors. Not to mention getting lined up in the tournament. The kid needs to toughen up. After all he isn't in the WHL where he can dominate any more.

I've heard talk that Toews is becoming soft in the dressing room as well. Maybe he's lost the hunger for the game he had. He needs a reason maybe to elevate himself. Maybe to believe that he can make another cup run as Captain Serious with the team he has.

One thing is for certain this team could use Captain Serious right now and a coach that will support him. After all how many Stanley cups Has Jeremy Coliton won? Maybe someone could hand Kane the smelling salts as well.
Maybe, just maybe Kane and Toews aren’t fans of JC and this is how they are displaying it. We all know Toews starts his season slow but this is not starting the season slow, its more like I don’t give a shit and it shows.
 

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Maybe, just maybe Kane and Toews aren’t fans of JC and this is how they are displaying it. We all know Toews starts his season slow but this is not starting the season slow, its more like I don’t give a shit and it shows.
If that was the case, it could bite him in the ass. Kaner may playing like it's 2018 and he could give a shit but he can at least score at will when he wants to. Toews, aside from last year has been Meh. the previous 3 for whatever excuse (gassed, injury, machu picchu, vegetarianism, woman issues, etc.), which would beg the question of whether Toews' 2019 campaign was an anomaly or not. With guys like Dach coming up I woulkd think it would be in Toews' best interest to play harder or develop chemistry with someone that can keep him in the top-2 lines. If not--and he plays like he has where he's basically Yannik Perrault (Faceoffs...and that's about it), he can find himself in the bottom-6 and hard to dig his way out being on the wrong side of 30. You also have to consider that chances are if the team fails this year Stan, and likely JC by proxy are gone. A vet coach (think Q, Mark Crawford, etc,) likely won't be awed and impressed like a youngin like JC would be.

Just spitballing but I really think it's at the point where the core players have to amp it up or lose their slots to the next gen players.
 

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sorry...i don't see anywhere in that article (which is almost 2 years old btw) where it says that toews is "getting soft in the dressing room."
I was going to mention this but didn't read all of it and felt the rationalizing would be too crazy.
 

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sorry...i don't see anywhere in that article (which is almost 2 years old btw) where it says that toews is "getting soft in the dressing room."

I read the whole thing and didn't see it either.
 

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sorry...i don't see anywhere in that article (which is almost 2 years old btw) where it says that toews is "getting soft in the dressing room."
Maybe I was doing to much reading between the lines but when a player become more lose as a celebrity it can often effect there over all outlook on things. At any rate he has change. The fact also is that I believe there have been conversations with Coliton. That's what any hockey core does . I would imagine Kane Seabrook and Keith have had conversations as well. Maybe their input has simply fallen on deaf ears. That fact remains if there is less intensity on the ice. Which there has been then you can easily make the leap and say there is likely less in the dressing room.
 

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The fact also is that I believe there have been conversations with Coliton. .

so is it a fact? or just an opinion. that's a misleading sentence. (btw, it's colliton....can no one here spell it right? :D)
 

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interesting Panarin like cap hit bonuses for Dach.

As CapFriendly explains, the long term injured reserve tag for Murphy was necessary so the Hawks could keep Kirby Dach around.

It's an indication that Dach will stay here for the season as his potential performance bonuses had the team up against the salary cap.

(1/3) We had the Chicago #Blackhawks with $639,417 in projected cap space. However, when Kirby Dach was activated, so were his $2,500,000 in potential performance bonuses. That meant Chicago had 5 players on the roster with performance bonuses potentially totaling $6,707,500.
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Maybe I was doing to much reading between the lines but when a player become more lose as a celebrity it can often effect there over all outlook on things. At any rate he has change. The fact also is that I believe there have been conversations with Coliton. That's what any hockey core does . I would imagine Kane Seabrook and Keith have had conversations as well. Maybe their input has simply fallen on deaf ears. That fact remains if there is less intensity on the ice. Which there has been then you can easily make the leap and say there is likely less in the dressing room.
My opinion of course, but the issue seems isolated to Toews. If this was a locker room issue I think more guys would be, and continue to be affected. The fact that Keith started the season looking like Matthew Keith and now looks excellent tells me it's isolated to Toews.

If this is correct, then the locker room needs a fresh voice. The problem for this year that I see is that there's no fresh blood infusion into the locker room that is on the same level of "move over geezers; I got this" that happened circa 2008. Dach is a maybe but I think it's too early to tell. That's not saying I think the C needs to be ripped from Toews' chest--far from it. But someone in the locker room needs to be saying "Come with me if you want to win" with enough clout that guys will jump on board.
interesting Panarin like cap hit bonuses for Dach.

As CapFriendly explains, the long term injured reserve tag for Murphy was necessary so the Hawks could keep Kirby Dach around.

It's an indication that Dach will stay here for the season as his potential performance bonuses had the team up against the salary cap.
This is actually pretty standard for rookies--and I believe (although I could be mistaken) that the bonuses have a lot to do with their draft position. Hell, Strome has a potential 2.4M performance bonus this year. If you go to CF and look at Toews/Kane's ELC's they had massive bonuses like Dach's which could count against the cap.
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What is a Performance Bonus?
A Performance Bonus can be given to a player in addition to their salary. Performance bonuses are only paid to the player if they meet the requirements as defined by the bonus. Performance bonuses count against the salary cap; however, a team can exceed the salary cap due to performance bonuses by the maximum performance bonus cushion amount of 7.5 percent of the upper limit. Not all players are eligible for Performance Bonuses, and to receive a bonus within their contract, a player must meet one of the following criteria:
  1. The player is on an entry-level contract.
  2. The player has signed a one-year contract and is over 35 years old.
  3. The player has signed a one-year contract after returning from a long-term injury (has played 400 or more games, and spent 100 or more days on the Injured Reserve in the last year of their most recent contract).
If a team does exceed the cap, then the bonus overages carry over into the following year--so if, say, Dach & Strome meet their bonuses and the 'hawks are up against the cap ceiling, that $5M would be taken off the ceiling next season. That affects tagging--i.e. the 'hawks cannot re-sign players to cap hits which exceed the projected cap for the following season.

So (as an example), if we look at the 'hawks now they have ~70M committed in 5 D-men and 10 FWDs (no goalies). Since the 'hawks are against the ceiling, and hypothetically both Dach and Strome meet their bonuses that ~5M carries over into next season--assuming the cap doesn't go up their cap room to re-sign guys like Strome, Lehner, etc. goes down from ~11.5M to about ~6.5M.

In all likelihood only Dach may need it, but it still puts the squeeze on the 'hawks. The 'hawks want to save every bit of cap they possibly can for the eventuality of performance bonus overages.
 

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