72-10 watch

czman

Well-known member
Joined:
May 7, 2013
Posts:
2,210
Liked Posts:
545
Hakeem's presence in the post is what makes Bulls vs Rockets interesting. In 1994 the post still rules, and the Bulls had a aging Cartwright, and then their usual Luc Longley and Bill Wennington to throw at Hakeem. Not exactly someone there who can match or stop Hakeem. I think the fact that the Bulls had guys who could score at will and play D (Jordan/Pippen) probably gives them the edge over Houston's shooters. The Knicks problem was they were pretty much equally matched to Houston as far as they had a great center, but surrounded him with decent-good players, but no other real stars (John Starks only All-Star season was that season).

They probably play Grant at the 5 and Toni at the PF. Hakeem was a footwork and skill center over a bruiser. Thorpe is a mismatch for Toni but they are Thorpe and Hakeem both can't have the ball in the post together. I am not saying you see that all game. I think you see that though.

Plus no team has ever lost a finals with Stacy King.
 

SilenceS

Moderator
Staff member
Donator
Joined:
Apr 16, 2013
Posts:
21,833
Liked Posts:
9,039
My mind explodes on anyone picking less than that. You two seriously have no clue just how good that Bulls Defense was and could be.

Yes, no one watched da Bulls but you.
 

brett05

867-5309
Joined:
Apr 28, 2009
Posts:
27,226
Liked Posts:
4,579
Location:
Hell
I want to say Jordan on the Bulls has a losing record against a Hakeem led Rockets over the career.
 

Scoot26

Administrator
Staff member
Donator
CCS Hall of Fame '20
Joined:
Jun 25, 2010
Posts:
41,250
Liked Posts:
28,337
I want to say Jordan on the Bulls has a losing record against a Hakeem led Rockets over the career.
I don't think W-L means much.. considering the Rockets were considerable better than the Bulls in their early careers and the fact they only played each other 2 times a year. Not to mention the whole.. regular season doesn't matter a whole much.

For argument sake, we'll throw in when the Bulls won championships

Bulls record vs Rockets:
1991 0-2
1992 1-1
1993 0-2
1996 2-0
1997 1-1
1998 2-0

Which comes out to a draw of 6-6 during those years. Rockets were better the first three peat, the Bulls were better the second three peat.
 

BlackHawkPaul

Fartbarf
Donator
Joined:
Sep 28, 2010
Posts:
5,997
Liked Posts:
2,338
Location:
Somewhere in Indiana
If it was a 7 game series, Bulls win in 6.
 

brett05

867-5309
Joined:
Apr 28, 2009
Posts:
27,226
Liked Posts:
4,579
Location:
Hell
I don't think W-L means much.. considering the Rockets were considerable better than the Bulls in their early careers and the fact they only played each other 2 times a year. Not to mention the whole.. regular season doesn't matter a whole much.

For argument sake, we'll throw in when the Bulls won championships

Bulls record vs Rockets:
1991 0-2
1992 1-1
1993 0-2
1996 2-0
1997 1-1
1998 2-0

Which comes out to a draw of 6-6 during those years. Rockets were better the first three peat, the Bulls were better the second three peat.

And all those years the Bulls had a better team.
 

knoxville7

I have the stride of a gazelle
Donator
CCS Hall of Fame '22
Joined:
Jul 12, 2013
Posts:
19,484
Liked Posts:
13,655
Location:
The sewers
My favorite teams
  1. Chicago Cubs
  1. Chicago Bulls
  1. Chicago Bears
  1. Tennessee Volunteers
those mid 90's Houston teams would have given the 96' bulls more trouble than todays warriors would IMO
 

RamiTheBullsFan

CCS Donator
Donator
Joined:
Apr 16, 2010
Posts:
9,505
Liked Posts:
1,733
Mason had one of the ugliest shots ever. I think if Green played back then he would have been Detlef Schrempf. Green is a SF in the 90s, the PFs would have broken him.

Schrempf is just a little too polished offensively compared to Green, in my opinion. Mason was nowhere near the shooter Green, obviously. And Mason was clearly the dominant rebounder. Their playing style though was very similar.
 

RamiTheBullsFan

CCS Donator
Donator
Joined:
Apr 16, 2010
Posts:
9,505
Liked Posts:
1,733
Hakeem's presence in the post is what makes Bulls vs Rockets interesting. In 1994 the post still rules, and the Bulls had a aging Cartwright, and then their usual Luc Longley and Bill Wennington to throw at Hakeem. Not exactly someone there who can match or stop Hakeem. I think the fact that the Bulls had guys who could score at will and play D (Jordan/Pippen) probably gives them the edge over Houston's shooters. The Knicks problem was they were pretty much equally matched to Houston as far as they had a great center, but surrounded him with decent-good players, but no other real stars (John Starks only All-Star season was that season).

I disagree to an extent about Houston vs. NY. Ewing was a great all-star center. He would easily be the best center if he was playing today. Or PF for that matter. However, Olajuwon was clearly better. Ewing actually had the better supporting cast around him, in my opinion. The difference in the series was the fact that Hakeem refused to let them lose and outplayed Ewing.

The Bulls had an array of centers and low-post defenders to throw at Olajuwon. That team lacked star power so if you focus on Olajuwon that might be what it takes to contain their offense, which was around league average that season. I think they would have probably posed a challenge but no more than Phoenix the year before.
 

czman

Well-known member
Joined:
May 7, 2013
Posts:
2,210
Liked Posts:
545
Schrempf is just a little too polished offensively compared to Green, in my opinion. Mason was nowhere near the shooter Green, obviously. And Mason was clearly the dominant rebounder. Their playing style though was very similar.

I guess I just see Green more like Schrempf because:
They both shoot the 3 a bunch.
They both use the threat of the 3 to get in the lane.
They both were pump fake 3-point artists (I am using artist very loosely).
When I think of Mason I think of that slow ugly shot. Had to be the ugliest slowest shot ever. I also think Mason may have been able to bench press a bus.
Everyone remembers back on those days a little different.
 

czman

Well-known member
Joined:
May 7, 2013
Posts:
2,210
Liked Posts:
545
I disagree to an extent about Houston vs. NY. Ewing was a great all-star center. He would easily be the best center if he was playing today. Or PF for that matter. However, Olajuwon was clearly better. Ewing actually had the better supporting cast around him, in my opinion. The difference in the series was the fact that Hakeem refused to let them lose and outplayed Ewing.

The Bulls had an array of centers and low-post defenders to throw at Olajuwon. That team lacked star power so if you focus on Olajuwon that might be what it takes to contain their offense, which was around league average that season. I think they would have probably posed a challenge but no more than Phoenix the year before.

I think it depends on what MJ shows up. The MJ who lost his father and would have been going through an investigation into gambling may not have been the same player mentally. I am not sure even MJ could have kept it together for the 4 peat. I know as fans we gloss over that. I bet if he would have stayed the gambling investigation alone would have derailed the championship. Especially if his father was killed in anyway part of something that he did.
 

knoxville7

I have the stride of a gazelle
Donator
CCS Hall of Fame '22
Joined:
Jul 12, 2013
Posts:
19,484
Liked Posts:
13,655
Location:
The sewers
My favorite teams
  1. Chicago Cubs
  1. Chicago Bulls
  1. Chicago Bears
  1. Tennessee Volunteers
I disagree to an extent about Houston vs. NY. Ewing was a great all-star center. He would easily be the best center if he was playing today. Or PF for that matter. However, Olajuwon was clearly better. Ewing actually had the better supporting cast around him, in my opinion. The difference in the series was the fact that Hakeem refused to let them lose and outplayed Ewing.

The Bulls had an array of centers and low-post defenders to throw at Olajuwon. That team lacked star power so if you focus on Olajuwon that might be what it takes to contain their offense, which was around league average that season. I think they would have probably posed a challenge but no more than Phoenix the year before.

you may want to go review those rockets teams roster again
 

Axl Rose

and I knew the silence of the world
Joined:
Oct 11, 2011
Posts:
12,232
Liked Posts:
4,389
i love this Warriors team its practically my dream team (ive said this before the championship) but i don't think they could mess with the 96 Bulls

Harper/Jordan/Pippen is shutting down anything from the backcourt and Rodman has Dray locked down while on the other side i don't see them stopping Jordan

Warriors may be able to get a game but the Bulls are supremely better IMO. this day and age Warriors are a cut above every other team but 96 Bulls would just be flatout unfair
 

czman

Well-known member
Joined:
May 7, 2013
Posts:
2,210
Liked Posts:
545
i love this Warriors team its practically my dream team (ive sad this before the championship) but i don't think they could mess with the 96 Bulls

Harper/Jordan/Pippen is shutting down anything from the backcourt and Rodman has Dray locked down while on the other side i don't see them stopping Jordan

Warriors may be able to get a game but the Bulls are supremely better IMO. this day and age Warriors are a cut above every other team but 96 Bulls would just be flatout unfair

Rules matter, which is why I don't like these comparisons. In the 90s this Warriors team probably is a first round out. I think the Bulls teams could compete easier today since they had enough shooting and actually played small a lot with Toni and Rodman at the 4/5.
 

The Hawk

Well-known member
Joined:
Jan 21, 2014
Posts:
18,007
Liked Posts:
3,238
Location:
Southern California
My favorite teams
  1. Chicago White Sox
  1. Chicago Blackhawks
That Bulls team would win against any team then or since at least with a 4 out of 5 game outcome. No team in my recollection since that Bulls team could play anywhere near them because of their great defense. Imagine any other team that had as many interchangeable defenders like that great team.
 

Top