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If I was a Bulls fan, I guess I would think the same way.
If I was a Bulls fan, I guess I would think the same way.
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Everyone keeps talking about this Warriors team in 96, but not that Bulls team in 15. Jordan averages 40 and Pippen is at 28.
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I doubt it. It would probably be Jordan, Pippen, and Lebron in todays age on the same team.
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The Bulls are better top to bottom. They would beat the Warriors. Period. The only real question is by how much.
The Bulls can beat you going big or going small. They can beat you with finesse or by playing physical.
The Bulls have the best perimeter defense fathomable with Jordan, Pippen, Harper, and Rodman who can switch off onto the perimeter.
Jordan is a better scoring option than Curry.
Thompson is about as good of a second option as Pippen though isn't nearly the complete player Pippen is.
Draymond Green is no Rodman.
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Maybe 2011?
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You do realize athletes are better now a days? I have never disputed that the Bull would or could win a series but destroy. No way. Up and down the Warriors have one of the best shooting backcourts of all time. They are one of the deepest teams I have ever seen. If you want to say Michael Jordan effect, sure, I get it. But, the Warriors are up with the greats for offense and defense. I would love to watch it if it could happen. Curry is the truth. That ball handle and release could go with any of the all time greats. People also lose sight on Curry conditioning. He runs people ragged. Also, I promise Draymond Green would still have been a great team player in the 90's. The guy is just a player.
Do I think the Bulls win in a 7 game series? Yes, because I will always give Jordan the respect of the difference. Do I think they would go 6 or 7? Absolutely and I think it would have been tremendous to see.
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Fair enough. All I'm saying is that the Bulls have had series against similarly deep teams with superstar talent and embarrassed them. I wouldn't rule it out.
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Agreed.
Warriors would be hard pressed to guard that Bulls team for sure. Meanwhile the Bulls would be able to limit Klay and Steph.
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Who would you compare Draymond to from the 90s?
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If I'm being honest, and you and I both know that we've gone toe to toe on this forum, that is the only name I've came up with,
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I thought that was a perfect comparison and I don't like to compare players all that much.
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Me and Scoot have talked about this before but I wish we could have saw the Rockets and Bulls go head to head when Jordan was away. A lot of people believe that Rockets team would have beat the Bulls with Jordan. It would have been great.
Also, I am one to believe if George Karl doesn't play dumb and allow the Glove to guard Jordan from the get go. That could have been a different series. Bulls most likely win but Payton was a defensive warrior. That was a damn good Sonics team. One of my favorite from the 90's. Shit, I do miss 90's ball. Reggie against the Knicks. Malone and stockton. The round mound of rebound. The glove. On and on and on. I even loved the role players. The Davis guys on the Pacers. I loved Charles Oakley. I always thought he was going to kill someone on the court. Larry Johnson. Its such a different game now. I could go with so many names that I grew up just loving.
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Warriors ain't losing their next 4 games so we're looking at 20-0.
52-10 isn't that difficult at that point.
Then you homos are going to have to unlock my 73-9 thread.
52-10 isn't that difficult at that point.
Then you homos are going to have to unlock my 73-9 thread.
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The plan!
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The NBA might be well served to re-establish physical play in the paint if nothing else. I'd say the 90's game was a lot more exciting than today. These days, lax defensive rules have allowed teams to innovate a lot of varying styles of offense. The NBA center back then was so deep and the NBA had deeper, less top heavy teams in general. And it was before much of the expansion, and a lot more teams had a couple of all-stars than now.
I don't know about doing anything different with how Karl used Payton. Jordan's 1996 Finals was actually pretty modest by his standards. Not to say he wasn't great, but that was his only NBA Finals series in which he didn't absolutely score at will, seemingly.
The Knicks really had the Rockets on the ropes. And the Jordan-less Bulls that year had those same Knicks on the ropes. I have zero doubt in my mind that the Bulls would've won their 4th title in 1994 had Jordan stayed. The Rockets really only had one star that season and a bunch of shooters. Kenny Smith and Vernon Maxwell were their shot creators off the dribble and they were really were so-so in that department. Shooting and spreading the floor with Hakeem's presence in the post was that team's identity on offense and good team defense. They wouldn't have been on the Bulls' level though.
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Mason had one of the ugliest shots ever. I think if Green played back then he would have been Detlef Schrempf. Green is a SF in the 90s, the PFs would have broken him.
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Define destroy? Is winning 4 straight by double digits destroying? For me it is. And the Bulls would do that quite easily.
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80/90 was the best basketball had to offer. The rules changes in the late 90s and early 2000s changed the game forever, and not for the better. The 94 season is where the rules started to change for the worse. That is where they really started enforcing and the flagrant foul and made the rule where two of them was an automatic ejection.
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Hakeem's presence in the post is what makes Bulls vs Rockets interesting. In 1994 the post still rules, and the Bulls had a aging Cartwright, and then their usual Luc Longley and Bill Wennington to throw at Hakeem. Not exactly someone there who can match or stop Hakeem. I think the fact that the Bulls had guys who could score at will and play D (Jordan/Pippen) probably gives them the edge over Houston's shooters. The Knicks problem was they were pretty much equally matched to Houston as far as they had a great center, but surrounded him with decent-good players, but no other real stars (John Starks only All-Star season was that season).