[A] Bergevin named GM of Canadiens

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People that are bashing Bowman Jr. need to get off his ass, He has drafted well and for what was out there as free agents not $$ much in the long run paned out pretty well. Im sure Stan could have gotten top free agents too if he was the GM prior to winning the Cup. When we had landed Soups and others. you Think Tallon was not told to spend that money? Tallon had had been with the Hawks for a long time, I think Bowman Jr. needs the same amount of time Tallon had been given to make a fair judement, ok. If anything Tallon has the upper hand, he had a team with mult. #1 draft picks. Stan is not in that position. Just because Hawks are not winning the Cup every year is not Stan's fault. And if he has not impressed anyone after the job hes done tradeing for prospects, and the draft hes done for a team that is not the doormats of the NHL, then you my friends need a wake up call. He is in a tough spot these past two years and IMO has done a great job for now. now as far as his boss, well thats a totally different department, that is where all this mess is starting from. He was filling seats with the cubs for years while they were the lovable loosers, I am fearing he is dooing the same here.
 

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People that are bashing Bowman Jr. need to get off his ass, He has drafted well and for what was out there as free agents not $$ much in the long run paned out pretty well. Im sure Stan could have gotten top free agents too if he was the GM prior to winning the Cup. When we had landed Soups and others. you Think Tallon was not told to spend that money? Tallon had had been with the Hawks for a long time, I think Bowman Jr. needs the same amount of time Tallon had been given to make a fair judement, ok. If anything Tallon has the upper hand, he had a team with mult. #1 draft picks. Stan is not in that position. Just because Hawks are not winning the Cup every year is not Stan's fault. And if he has not impressed anyone after the job hes done tradeing for prospects, and the draft hes done for a team that is not the doormats of the NHL, then you my friends need a wake up call. He is in a tough spot these past two years and IMO has done a great job for now. now as far as his boss, well thats a totally different department, that is where all this mess is starting from. He was filling seats with the cubs for years while they were the lovable loosers, I am fearing he is dooing the same here.



The only reason I will never give Scooter a break is because the backstabbed and manipulated to get his boss fired (the guy who gave him a job when he was fired from his anderson job) so he could have the job. Whether daddy planned it or someone else, he participated, and for that, he holds no credibility for me. He's in a tough spot because he put himself there.
 

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I don't know where to start. I'll just say don't post that on the 300 level.
 

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I still think it's incredibly too early to tell how great his drafting has been. The potential is outstanding, but until these guys start sticking on NHL teams we won't know gonna take at least another year or two to figure that out I believe. As for your second point, making a bad move is worse than making now move. If you know you can't get anyone, then don't go get OD, Morrison, Brunette, Lepisto..... I will give him credit for Mayers though, I really like him.
 

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ALSO, forgot to mention, Guess what Bowman has had multiple #1 draft picks, THERE PLAYING ON THE TEAM AND HAVE WON THE CUP.
 

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Morrison big fail.



Brunette, I don't think anyone knew he was going to be that aged.



Carcillo, like a burrish type player, I think ok for the price.



Mayers, I agree probably the best, yet for the last three playoff games scratched. Why?



Odonnell? Really?



Montedor, Buffalo had had their fill of him. Scratched in their playoffs and then to give him a multi year contract? Really?



Oduya, I suppose hit or miss, but miss in the playoffs for sure



Am I missing anything, at least for this year?



Draft will be told in years to come, although I still like this past years draft class.
 

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I'm not saying I don't like the draft at all, I think POTENTIALLY they've done a great job. Quality picks, addressed needs, but until kids pan out or not you can't say it was a success really. If you were to rate the best drafts of the last 15 years, you could really include the last couple because while you know what they are supposed to do, they haven't really done anything yet. I'm sure there was a year not too long ago where folks thought after the draft... Man, that was the one, this draft is really going to turn the team around, and now they can't name a single guy from it.
 

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I don't know where to start. I'll just say don't post that on the 300 level.



I don't go over to the 300 level, but why? they can't handle the truth? or it's run by McShitbrain?
 

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People that are bashing Bowman Jr. need to get off his ass, He has drafted well and for what was out there as free agents not $$ much in the long run paned out pretty well. Im sure Stan could have gotten top free agents too if he was the GM prior to winning the Cup. When we had landed Soups and others. you Think Tallon was not told to spend that money? Tallon had had been with the Hawks for a long time, I think Bowman Jr. needs the same amount of time Tallon had been given to make a fair judement, ok. If anything Tallon has the upper hand, he had a team with mult. #1 draft picks. Stan is not in that position. Just because Hawks are not winning the Cup every year is not Stan's fault. And if he has not impressed anyone after the job hes done tradeing for prospects, and the draft hes done for a team that is not the doormats of the NHL, then you my friends need a wake up call. He is in a tough spot these past two years and IMO has done a great job for now. now as far as his boss, well thats a totally different department, that is where all this mess is starting from. He was filling seats with the cubs for years while they were the lovable loosers, I am fearing he is dooing the same here.



Any "success" the little bastard has is because Daddy is pulling his puppet strings.



He wasn't qualified to be a NHL GM then, and he's not now.
 

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This is an honest question but what was Stan before he became GM... or even before he came to the Hawks?
 

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This is an honest question but what was Stan before he became GM... or even before he came to the Hawks?



an accountant.



I just read this on his "official" bio; excuse me while I go puke.



In leading the Blackhawks to the 2010 Stanley Cup Championship, ending the franchise’s 49-year title drought, Bowman became the youngest General Manager in National Hockey League history to guide an organization to the championship.



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Bowman played an integral role in acquiring the talent that brought the Stanley Cup to Chicago in 2010.
 

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This is an honest question but what was Stan before he became GM... or even before he came to the Hawks?





Little history lesson....



From my understanding Stan worked for Anderson. When Anderson went belly up his Father called a friend to ask if he could hire his son. That friend being Dale Tallon. Of course it's a good old by network so that friend hired his son as asst. GM.



I could be totally wrong but that's the way it was told to me many years ago. Ironically that friend and son were Key in screwing the guy that helped them out.
 

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Coach Q to Montreal?



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As discussed recently, there have been rumblings Joel Quenneville could leave his post in Chicago for a gig behind the Montreal Canadiens' bench. Quenneville and Habs GM Marc Bergevin are good buddies, and there's word the Chicago Blackhawks head coach and management "don't see eye to eye".


Well, Blackhawks GM Stan Bowman has essentially dismissed that scuttlebutt.


When asked by the Chicago Tribune if Quenneville was expected to coach the 'Hawks next season, Bowman said "yes". And Chris Kuc proposes whatever issues the bench boss had with Bowman and co. appear to have been resolved:


"... Tribune sources have indicated Quenneville was not pleased when director of player development Barry Smith -- a longtime associate to Hawks senior adviser Scotty Bowman -- joined practices during the season to help the team work on its struggling power play. Smith continued in that role until the playoffs began but did not travel with the Hawks to Arizona, where they faced the Coyotes in the Western Conference quarterfinals. One source said Quenneville came out on top of a confrontation with management and Smith's on-ice role was ended ..."


We have yet to hear a peep from either Quenneville or Bergevin in regards to this latest chatter.
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For you Mass:

Montreal Canadiens general manager Marc Bergevin will apparently have to look outside of Chicago to find a new head coach, as speculation about current Blackhawks coach Joel Quenneville possibly being available don't look to be true.

Blackhawks general manager Stan Bowman told the Chicago Tribune on Monday that while he doesn't like to address rumours, Quenneville - who is under contract through the 2013-14 seaosn - would be returning to the club next season.

The Tribune reports that Quenneville had disagreements with management during the season, when director of player development Barry Smith was on the ice with the team working on their struggling power play.

Smith continued the role until the playoffs, but did not travel with the club, after a reported confrontation between Quenneville and team management.

Rumours of Quenneville leaving Chicago picked up when Bergevin left the team to become the Canadiens' GM last week and news broke of former Blackhawks executive Rick Dudley's imminent departure from Toronto to Montreal.

"Joel is a great coach," forward Patrick Sharp told the Tribune. "It doesn't surprise me that those rumors are out there. I think a lot of teams would like to have him, but we're all happy to play for him, that's for sure."



http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=395372
 

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So they'll pull a Q and wait to 4 games into the season. haha.
 

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i dont think Stan was all apart of the backstabbing, it was mostly McDonough in my mind. He's drafted well, and still a rookie GM, i'd give him time--Dale certainly had plenty of time for his team plan to develop. Also, being Asst. GM he did play an integral role in the cup team, just not as much as Dale, obviously, or as much as the marketing team wants to claim.
 

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Yes he did, cause we all know how important it is for an assistant GM to get the QOs in on time. hiyo...



Honestly though, I can't see how you could separate the backstabbing from McD and either of the Bowmans? They didn't know each other before. I would venture to bet that before he came to the blackhawks he had no fucking clue what Stan was doing and may only knew of who Bowman was from when he was younger and followed the game? What motivation is there for McD to pull all these moves to get Stan in place if Stan wasn't involved? He had no qualifications other than being able to count McD's money and tell him he's going to make it grow like his tiny penis ever time he get's to fire someone.
 

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