A couple throw away seasons turning into sustained long term success...........

Willrust

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And you had my e-mail address until I took you off of it for sending me all those disgusting klan photographs from your rallies in Indiana.

Don't even try and hide behind the shower curtain now.

Never seen something so disgusting in my life.

The other CBS members here can verify that I'm 100% accurate.

You really have lost your fucking mind if you believe any of that.
 

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Come on Will. Do you really give Hendry any credit for anything positive he ever did, or do you simply point out his weak signings and give him full credit for where this abysmal team is today?

If you have said anything positive, it sure wasn't much. Surely you can't be wondering why people blast Theo for some of his signings past and present, when you yourself do the same thing with Hendry's.

I give Hendry credit for the Ramirez, Lee and Nomar trades. I liked the FA signing of Ted Lilly. I put a great deal of blame on Sam Zell for most of the moves made from 2008 to 2010.
 

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Come on Will. Do you really give Hendry any credit for anything positive he ever did, or do you simply point out his weak signings and give him full credit for where this abysmal team is today?

If you have said anything positive, it sure wasn't much. Surely you can't be wondering why people blast Theo for some of his signings past and present, when you yourself do the same thing with Hendry's.

^This
 

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And I used the teams that faced the exact excuses you are whining about with the Cubs.

Doesn't matter how times I provide the facts you claim don't exist, you just change the questions.

I've asked the same question again and again. If I have changed it, show me the posts where I asked for teams that were able to just improve.
 

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You really have lost your fucking mind if you believe any of that.

Not any different than you accusing someone of posting something they never have.

But you have the mind of a premature fetus and expect most to tip-toe around it.

You have a bad habit of trying to argue topics you clearly cannot comprehend and have zero knowledge of.

Then your attacks and tears start to flow.

But really. What's new.

Not surprised to see you respond to my post.

Wonder why.
 

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I give Hendry credit for the Ramirez, Lee and Nomar trades. I liked the FA signing of Ted Lilly. I put a great deal of blame on Sam Zell for most of the moves made from 2008 to 2010.

First off, it isn't as if the Cubs standards of winning are that of the Yankees, so I will say that Hendry had a nice run between 03' and 08' considering the team was decimated with injuries in 04' and 06' before the wheels started coming off in 09'.

Aside from what you have credited Will, I will add that Lofton was very instrumental, Karros and Grudz for Hundley was good, DeRosa was an excellent pick up in which Hendry used him to get Archer, and then received Garza for Archer who was the key component of that deal. Soriano too has not been a waste. He is putting up very respectable numbers for some who have stated on here that he shouldn't be doing that at this stage of his contract and he is a streak hitter. He is what he is.

As far as Theo, I think the Rizzo deal has worked out. Plus he and Castro being locked up on contracts that are cheap by todays standards was good. Dejesus and Schierholtz have been serviceable, but I do not like the Hairston signing. I figure if you have to platoon two players in the same position, then you don't have one.

I understand the Maholm, Feldman, Baker pick-ups. It is very Cardinal-esque hoping to strike it rich while the farm develops it's own pitching.

I don't need to say anything about Stewart and Volstad. I think everyone including Theo would agree that those and a few others were mistakes.

The key will be this off-season, because it is time to start moving the Cubs team at the parent level in the right direction and give players like Rizzo, Castro, and whomever some complimentary help. Just my opinion.
 

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First off, it isn't as if the Cubs standards of winning are that of the Yankees, so I will say that Hendry had a nice run between 03' and 08' considering the team was decimated with injuries in 04' and 06' before the wheels started coming off in 09'.

Aside from what you have credited Will, I will add that Lofton was very instrumental, Karros and Grudz for Hundley was good, DeRosa was an excellent pick up in which Hendry used him to get Archer, and then received Garza for Archer who was the key component of that deal. Soriano too has not been a waste. He is putting up very respectable numbers for some who have stated on here that he shouldn't be doing that at this stage of his contract and he is a streak hitter. He is what he is.

As far as Theo, I think the Rizzo deal has worked out. Plus he and Castro being locked up on contracts that are cheap by todays standards was good. Dejesus and Schierholtz have been serviceable, but I do not like the Hairston signing. I figure if you have to platoon two players in the same position, then you don't have one.

I understand the Maholm, Feldman, Baker pick-ups. It is very Cardinal-esque hoping to strike it rich while the farm develops it's own pitching.

I don't need to say anything about Stewart and Volstad. I think everyone including Theo would agree that those and a few others were mistakes.

The key will be this off-season, because it is time to start moving the Cubs team at the parent level in the right direction and give players like Rizzo, Castro, and whomever some complimentary help. Just my opinion.

Positive baseball post. Works for me.
 

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Wrong. Maybe if you moved your head you would see past his balls. He has never listed a single thing that Epstein or Hoyer has done in a positive light without some backhanded compliment.

That's what your bitchfit is about? Because one poster you dont personally know doesnt get on his knees for a team that until seen fit to happen, is a terrible team? Hes complimented Rizzo on another thread about his first strikeout in past 40-something PAs, hes complimented Feldman's recent performance because its merited praise. But because he doesnt kiss theo's ass, he's wrong........OK :fap::fap::fap:

You want him to put Volstad, 101 losses, Scott Baker, botched trades that could have improved the team, and further dumpster diving into a positive light with no backhanded compliment?

Very few can.

:enough:
 

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I remember former poster Rich Selavy saying that bullpen arms were a dime a dozen last year. Unfortunately, the Cubs had to make change for a nickel to get what they currently have. :rofl:
 

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That's what your bitchfit is about? Because one poster you dont personally know doesnt get on his knees for a team that until seen fit to happen, is a terrible team? Hes complimented Rizzo on another thread about his first strikeout in past 40-something PAs, hes complimented Feldman's recent performance because its merited praise. But because he doesnt kiss theo's ass, he's wrong........OK :fap::fap::fap:

You want him to put Volstad, 101 losses, Scott Baker, botched trades that could have improved the team, and further dumpster diving into a positive light with no backhanded compliment?

Very few can.

:enough:

Has he mentioned Travis Wood? How about David DeJesus hitting close to .300? Has he ever given Theo or Epstein credit for acquiring either? Nope. Hell, the Cubs picked up a young pitcher from the Cardinals for nothing and he is already shitting on the move.
 

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I remember former poster Rich Selavy saying that bullpen arms were a dime a dozen last year. Unfortunately, the Cubs had to make change for a nickel to get what they currently have. :rofl:

Where is ol' Rich? He and boyd back in the day were incredibly entertaining...

Dont suppose John Clay is around either?
 

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Has he mentioned Travis Wood? How about David DeJesus hitting close to .300? Has he ever given Theo or Epstein credit for acquiring either? Nope. Hell, the Cubs picked up a young pitcher from the Cardinals for nothing and he is already shitting on the move.

Who gives a ****.
 

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There have been many people, as I have pointed out many times, that have said the Cubs should refrain from FA's until the team has a competitive core in place developed by the farm system.

For some reason you keep inventing myths in your mind, that people think the Cubs shouldn't sign free agents for years to come, or that so many people blindly slurp up everything Theo says.

Here's the real facts. Except for you and your little band of lapdogs and make-believe friends, most reasonable Cub fans accept the fact that Theo Epstein and Jedd Hoyer are running the club now, and that Jim Hendry is gone, and there's nothing any of us can do about it anyway. We are frustrated with losing, don't like all of the moves these guys have made, but trust that there's a plan in place to make them team competitive. We realize it may or may not work, but given that we're less than two years into it, we're willing to be a little patient. That patience will erode if losing seasons continue to be the norm.

We see key players like Castro and Rizzo being locked up, so we expect pieces to be continually added through free agency and the farm system, starting as soon as this offseason. We acknowledge the counter-productivity of signing overweight or aging superstars to mega-contracts up to this point, but prefer more moderately priced free agents. And most of us don't truly believe Ricketts cares nothing about winning, though that is subject to re-evaluation in due time.

Ranting at ghosts and disagreeing with everyone in sight is getting old quickly, just like it did at CBS. Being a message board jackass is really not a noble profession.
 

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For some reason you keep inventing myths in your mind, that people think the Cubs shouldn't sign free agents for years to come, or that so many people blindly slurp up everything Theo says.

Well if I am making that up, it must be a mass hallucination as many others have seen the comments by many people that FA shouldn't be used until the core of the team is developed.

Keep burying your head in the sand though and slurping up everything that is spoon fed to you. Being a brain dead sheep is really not a noble profession, but just keep making sure you don't forget my order of fries when I am in the drive through though.
 

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Actually I should probably correct myself.

The slurpers have said they are in favor of signing free agents if.........

They are under the age of 30
Aren't signed for more than 4-5 years
Aren't signed for over $15M a season
And none of their contract years are wasted when the team isn't competitive.

So they eliminate 99% of the quality free agents at the same time they claim they are for using FA as a tool to help build the team.

Awesome.
 

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Wrong. Maybe if you moved your head you would see past his balls. He has never listed a single thing that Epstein or Hoyer has done in a positive light without some backhanded compliment.


Like I said....reading comprehension.
 

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That's what your bitchfit is about? Because one poster you dont personally know doesnt get on his knees for a team that until seen fit to happen, is a terrible team? Hes complimented Rizzo on another thread about his first strikeout in past 40-something PAs, hes complimented Feldman's recent performance because its merited praise. But because he doesnt kiss theo's ass, he's wrong........OK :fap::fap::fap:

You want him to put Volstad, 101 losses, Scott Baker, botched trades that could have improved the team, and further dumpster diving into a positive light with no backhanded compliment?

Very few can.

:enough:


Pat - we need to stop feeding trolls information that is out there plain as day to read. This troll lacks reading comprehension and just telling him won't help him. As you can see, it severely hinders it.

Personally, I find it funny that trolls like it say dumb moronic statements that are totally unfounded....and actually believe it. I laugh at it too many times reading its drivel.
 

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Pat - we need to stop feeding trolls information that is out there plain as day to read. This troll lacks reading comprehension and just telling him won't help him. As you can see, it severely hinders it.

Personally, I find it funny that trolls like it say dumb moronic statements that are totally unfounded....and actually believe it. I laugh at it too many times reading its drivel.

I know, its cbs all over again, they cant answer or counter a point, they whine and ***** about Boyd being unfair and apparently not nice enough to Theo, we are the cautiously optimistic people who need to see and read something before we sign on the dotted line/accept it as truth.

And I'm ok with stealing mongo's quoteline. Fucking hilarious
 

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