[A] LEAVE BOWMAN ALONE!

[Maiden]

Their plan has been to build through the draft. And since the Cup year, it's what they've done. He's held on to his picks, identified the core and by signing the retreads on the 1yr deals...doesn't lock them into long term to where it may block a "prospect"



But...prospects take time. And not making a big trade isn't fun or sexy. I think it's more fun making the trade or signing as well - but probably not the best. There hasn't been a FA the last 2 years that without breaking the bank..would have been a perfect fit.



I think the trust has been put into the scouting staff (Mark Kelley to be exact) to draft well and let them develop. The playoff failures the last 2 years has as much to do with the lack of health in the playoffs as anything.



For not making a huge trade - the better/smarter thing to do is probably not make one out of panic/overpay (again, not as fun...but probably right). But if McNeil, K.Hayes are 1 more year away...would trading away a prospect for a 1yr fix be worth it? I don't know the answer to that.



When he says he's happy with his "organization" and thinks they're going in the right direction...I don't think that's a lie. They have a lot of young talent - and that's their plan. If it doesn't work out....then it's a failure. But they're probably going to start seeing if it's going to pan out this and next year.



I could care less about what someone says in a camera if its funny or not. I just want him to do a good job.

As much as I am not a Bowman fan I tend to agree with everything stated.

While cleaning the garage today I came accross a mid to late 2000's Rockford program.

Besides the nucleus from previous drafts or FA signings it is a whose who of the Stanley Cup champs roster.

Versteeg, Bolland, Buff, Bickell, Brouwer, Hjalphabet, Niemi etc etc etc. The list was endless.

This is the way I want my hockey organization built. Add the occasional FA acquisition and we're set.

 

[the canadian dream]

I do care about hearing these guys opinions and views..that's just me. It's part of the entire package of hockey which I like. Personal tastes.



I have no issues with building through the draft..adding prospects every year.. I love that shit. Would rather see a new face in the lineup than a 1 year left old fart with no gas left for the game any day. Wether that is cap feasible? Probably is a lot of time when we are told it is not. Stan will and deserves time until his prospects and pick are easier judged. Until then Dales picks still run the show.



The bottom line to all of this is simple and one we all know and continues to frustrate us fans and will until Stan can help get this team past the first round. Dale was released for wrong reasons and too early. His stamp was and still is very clear on this team. And it's not about getting over Dale...im well over Dale. It's just the truth. Makes it that much harder for Stan as he has to work under that shadow still..I understand that. When all core guys are not your own then you are kinda screwed and it proves that the past GM wasn't done.

 

[Maiden]

Dale was released for wrong reasons and too early. His stamp was and still is very clear on this team.

AMEN to this. That's why to us old timers we have no use for McDickHead, Stan, Scotty etc etc.

Dale was in the midst of building a top flight hockey organization from the ground up and McAssClown stole killed that vision.

 

[Larmer83]

There hasn't been a FA the last 2 years that without breaking the bank..would have been a perfect fit?



Jose Theodore

Brian Elliott



And...





Wait for it...

















Mike Smith signed by the Yotes for 2 years at $2 million/year.

 

[PatrickShart]

Did Theodore/Smith want to be number 1 goalies? Because that's what they were offered with FLA and PHX



So after Craw won the number 1 job.....wait for it...:wait for it....you'd think they need a number 1 and bump Craw to 2?



And Elliot...coming off of a season where his save percentage was under .900 should've been a priority/target

 

[R K]

There hasn't been a FA the last 2 years that without breaking the bank..would have been a perfect fit?



Jose Theodore

Brian Elliott



And...





Wait for it...



Mike Smith signed by the Yotes for 2 years at $2 million/year.

Anyone have their Crystal ball on Smith? He was definitely no #1 when leaving Tampa. Not sure how many said he was better than Crawford, or Emery for that matter. Suppose 29 other GM's blew that one too if thats the case.



Elliot is no better than either goalie we have IMO and Theodore is a crap shoot and still I question better than Crawford.

 

[PatrickShart]

I guess Yzerman is.......wait for it.....a bigger moron for letting smith go and giving Roloson all that money



So scooter is at least smarter than him

 

[R K]

AMEN to this. That's why to us old timers we have no use for McDickHead, Stan, Scotty etc etc.

Dale was in the midst of building a top flight hockey organization from the ground up and McAssClown stole killed that vision.

Pretty much this. Although they still wear the Indian Head and just during Bills dumb ass days, I still watch. Bill finally figured it out, maybe Rocky will. A lot of us dumb ass fans spent money for a dysfunctional organization in the past. Just a lot less money.

 

[Maiden]

Pretty much this. Although they still wear the Indian Head and just during Bills dumb ass days, I still watch. Bill finally figured it out, maybe Rocky will. A lot of us dumb ass fans spent money for a dysfunctional organization in the past. Just a lot less money.

I'm not spending it this year. Look me up at a host of AHL arenas this coming year.

 

[daze71]

AMEN to this. That's why to us old timers we have no use for McDickHead, Stan, Scotty etc etc.

Dale was in the midst of building a top flight hockey organization from the ground up and McAssClown stole killed that vision.

Who is the one responsible For bringing MrAssClown into the Organization.

 

[R K]

Who is the one responsible For bringing MrAssClown into the Organization.

His boss.



I'm not spending much this year either Maiden. I may hit 10 games, but I won't stop going completely until I'm fishing in the Gulf on the weekends!

 

[PatrickShart]

Seeing as there's only going to be 10 homes games after the lockout....you'll be going to every game then?

 

[R K]

lol! 23 games after Jan 1st which no way will the lockout go past.

 

[fanof19]

Bowman deserves all the crap that's flung at him.

 

[klemmer]

There hasn't been a FA the last 2 years that without breaking the bank..would have been a perfect fit?



Jose Theodore

Brian Elliott



And...

Wait for it...

Mike Smith signed by the Yotes for 2 years at $2 million/year.

Hindsight is always 20/20. Nostradamus couldn't have predicted that ANY of those three would have great years, much less all three.....

 

[R K]

Bowman deserves all the crap that's flung at him.

For his part in the dismantle of the previous regime without a doubt. He will never get my respect directly due to that fact. None of them will.

 

[Tater]

Two years in I still don't know who the **** Stan Bowman is and what he thinks about the culture of the game, the league and the team. All I know of him is he is the accountant son of Scotty Bowman... and that is frustrating. You would think he would like to separate himself from that a little and become his own person with a real individual identity...show some damn passion for the game. Guess not. Playing it safe...much ike how he has ran the team thus far.

Couldn't agree more. Who the hell is the guy?

 

[supraman]

I guess Yzerman is.......wait for it.....a bigger moron for letting smith go and giving Roloson all that money



So scooter is at least smarter than him

No he wasnt Smith needed a new team. The prior owners ruined smith

 

[fanof19]

I didn't jump on the Bandwagon. I have never liked him.

me either. He's number 3 on the SUCK list.

 

[Shantz My Pants]

As a General Manager for the Blackhawks what has Bowman done that has been so horribly awful????



I get that everyone has a huge issue with McD, that's fine and dandy, but were not talking about him. Tallon started to do some great things for the Hawks, but if everyone can take a look back, he made some real STUPID decisions coming out of the lock out as well. All GM's make mistakes, yet I can't seem to find any glaring ones on Stan's record.



Stan wasn't the one to fire Tallon. Last time I checked Rocky signed off on Tallon getting transferred to a senior adviser role. So what has Stan really don't that everyone seems to think makes him such a terrible GM? He got Stalberg for an expensive contract in Versteeg and Bill Sweatt who wasn't going to sign in Chicago. He traded Skille for Frolik and Salak; Frolik is 10 times better than Skille and Salak at one point was considered a future starting goalie. He was able to get rid of Campbells 7 million dollar contract, that would still have us with 0 cap space till 2016 for Olesz who is in Rockford (it was to make capspace, fine trade for both teams). He took a gamble on Brendan Morrison for a minor league D man who wasn't going to make the team ever. Where is the risk in that? He let Buff, Ladd, Eager and Sopel go to clear cap space and got a 1st, 2nd round pick and Morin (top prospect) and Marty Reasoner as the bum contract. The Hawks were not going to be able to resign all of them, so getting what he got for them was decent (I would of kept Ladd, but he made the deal happen).



What do you have that makes Stan a terrible GM?