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Wrigley Field: Fix Up Or Build New?


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Rice Cube

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Yes, watching baseball in real time is difficult.

Getting a jumbotron is Special person.

You can watch baseball in real time, which I do at Wrigley Field, but on close plays you want to see what happened. It's very annoying to have to crane one's neck up to watch those dinky TVs they have around the terrace and upper deck.

It's reasonable to expect a business to want to maximize their revenue streams. A big board which can rotate advertisements would do that rather effectively. $ = good.
 

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What is there to be unhappy about this? Wrigley needs major work to remain viable long term for major league baseball. The city by relaxing the landmark status on Wrigley would allow Ricketts to fund most of the work the stadium and surrounding area through the increased revenue streams. That seems like a pretty big win-win situation for everyone involved that Ricketts has been describing.
 

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A jumbotron would be awesome. I'm all for this.
 

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Yes, watching baseball in real time is difficult.

Getting a jumbotron is Special person.

Are you mentally disabled?

It's not about "watching the game" on the jumbo tron. It's about ad revenue, replays, Cubs history vignette's etc. LOL at you think it has anything to do with watching the game in real time.
 

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Ot. Some jumbo trona show real time play????
 

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Ot. Some jumbo trona show real time play????

I think some will do that, but most of them show ads and statlines until the play has ended before displaying a replay. I don't recall the last time I saw a developing play simulcast on the big screen.
 

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Are you mentally disabled?

Ah yes. The tried and trued method of calling people Special person.

It's not about "watching the game" on the jumbo tron. It's about ad revenue, replays, Cubs history vignette's etc. LOL at you think it has anything to do with watching the game in real time.

It still doesnt need to be done. We already have the board beneath the scoreboard. We now have the screen in RF. We have the doors in the outfield, and the screens behind homeplate (which I would believe brings in more money than anything) We have plenty of advertising at the stadium and are finding more ways to do it that a jumbotron is not needed.

Plenty of ways to get advertising without a jumbotron.
 

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Ah yes. The tried and trued method of calling people Special person.

You can probably just ignore that part next time.

It still doesnt need to be done. We already have the board beneath the scoreboard. We now have the screen in RF. We have the doors in the outfield, and the screens behind homeplate (which I would believe brings in more money than anything) We have plenty of advertising at the stadium and are finding more ways to do it that a jumbotron is not needed.

Plenty of ways to get advertising without a jumbotron.

They could, except that if you want to appease the fraction of fans who aren't dinosaurs, and if you want to efficiently maximize revenue, the best way to do it is with a big board. The advertisements are then focused in one spot. The dinosaurs and traditionalists can continue to watch what's happening on the field of play and ignore the monstrosity. Win-win.

The people who say "OMG I'm never going to Wrigley again because they have a jumbotron" are probably overreacting and are lying anyway :lol: Not that you said that, but that's one of those kneejerk statements that often turn out not to be true.
 

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You can probably just ignore that part next time.

sigh. I guess thats the only resolution.

They could, except that if you want to appease the fraction of fans who aren't dinosaurs, and if you want to efficiently maximize revenue, the best way to do it is with a big board. The advertisements are then focused in one spot. The dinosaurs and traditionalists can continue to watch what's happening on the field of play and ignore the monstrosity. Win-win.

The people who say "OMG I'm never going to Wrigley again because they have a jumbotron" are probably overreacting and are lying anyway :lol: Not that you said that, but that's one of those kneejerk statements that often turn out not to be true.

I would still go, but I just dont want it to turn into a damn amusement park. I hated Miller. Its a damn amusement park. I do not want Wrigley becoming that. I don't mind the Toyota sign. I am all for the signs on the doors. I am even cool with the little screen in RF this year. I just A) don't want an amusement park which to me is what a jumbotron brings. It brings more games and other this than it brings replays and stats (we already have had the stats if you know where to look now we have two) and B) dont want it to take away from the scoreboard. If we can find a way to build it without augmenting the scoreboard whatever I will concede (still won't like it, but I will concede). If it affects the scoreboard then you might as well tear the ivy off the walls and sell every inch of the wall for advertising.
 

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Ah yes. The tried and trued method of calling people Special person.
Ah the tired and trued method of disappearing from the site for being Special person...then coming back...still Special person.


It still doesnt need to be done
Define "need"?

Is it needed for the Cubs to move forward as a real 21st century franchise and open new revenue streams to no only appeal to new fans, prospective players, personal, etc? I would argue yes it is "needed". It's the way baseball is today.


We already have the board beneath the scoreboard.
Which is a lame sorry excuse.

We have plenty of advertising at the stadium and are finding more ways to do it that a jumbotron is not needed.
Obviously you're wrong.

I doubt Rickett's and Co is just going to throw up a JumboTron to throw one up for the **** of it.





They could, except that if you want to appease the fraction of fans who aren't dinosaurs, and if you want to efficiently maximize revenue, the best way to do it is with a big board. The advertisements are then focused in one spot. The dinosaurs and traditionalists can continue to watch what's happening on the field of play and ignore the monstrosity. Win-win.

The people who say "OMG I'm never going to Wrigley again because they have a jumbotron" are probably overreacting and are lying anyway :lol: Not that you said that, but that's one of those kneejerk statements that often turn out not to be true.
Bingo.

Anti-Jumbo Tron people are fools

I would still go, but I just dont want it to turn into a damn amusement park. I hated Miller. Its a damn amusement park.
Rickett's wanting a jumbo tron, something 99% of other stadiums have in some way or another without being an amusement park is a terrible slippery slope argument.



Classic stadiums have JT's it's part of it.
 

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People who "sigh" on an internet message board are either Special person or ***. Since we've already ruled out retardation...

I don't know how Wrigley Field ever got "landmark status" in the first place. What a mess. Wrigley needs to be updated...I think 99% of the people would agree with that, with the other 1% of the people too busy sighing to weigh in with a coherent thought. It would be nice if the modifications are tastefully done, but regardless they are necessary.

It's the 15% that disagree...

Wrigley got landmark status under Daley. It needs a massive overhaul if it wants to remain in use. I don't think any Red Sox fans are realistically upset over the Fenway upgrades and that Stadium has seen a few WS wins and a lot more positive history than Wrigley.
 

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As a Bay Area native I use AT&T Park (or whatever phone company bought it up) as an example. It's a ballpark with old-timey feel that has modern amenities and is a vastly superior park to Wrigley Field in just about every way. Wrigley's only saving grace is that it's where my favorite team plays. If they can revamp Wrigley to have modern amenities (including better player facilities) and turn it into a bigger cash cow than it is now, more power to them. As for the Jumbotron, just ignore it. There's plenty of noise (with the organ, the 7th inning stretch, the random playing of YMCA etc) so a little bit more isn't going to kill you. Besides, if you're a true baseball fan you are paying attention to what's happening on the field anyway.
 

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Granted the giant Coke bottle and baseball glove in the bleachers is tacky, but check it out. No obstructed views, McCovey's Cove, and a scoreboard that isn't too garish. Plus it generated enough money to pay for Matt Cain and Madison Bumgarner just now.

They probably get a bit of $ from fucking with the A's re: territorial rights, too :lol:
 

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DO THIS. NOW.

Oh and I happen to enjoy watching games at Miller. Sure, it's a "damn amusement park", so what?
 

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In my opinion they should keep all of the classic aspects of the park such as the ivy, scoreboard, bleachers, and marquee. I think they should rebuild all areas that are in foul territory.
 
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