All Wrigley Field renovation thread

[Sunbiz1]

Why is it that city taxes are being applied to ticket prices as opposed to simply raising ticket prices and being honest?. Then they tell fans that it's the city, when they asked the city to do it.

I can't believe they are using tax dollars for "improvements", when the whole dump needs to be razed.

 

[Rice Cube]

Why is it that city taxes are being applied to ticket prices as opposed to simply raising ticket prices and being honest?. Then they tell fans that it's the city, when they asked the city to do it.

I can't believe they are using tax dollars for "improvements", when the whole dump needs to be razed.

I think no matter what the price of the tickets are there is a tax surcharge on it, so raising the ticket prices means that you're raising the taxes anyway. I'm not a budget expert or anything but that's what should logically happen.

What I understand from the articles is that the Ricketts will get to retain a certain percentage of the taxes gained from each ticket sale and apply it towards fixing the field. We've already discussed the pros and cons of rebuilding versus a full-scale renovation in the other thread. Yeah, you'd expect rich people to just pay for everything themselves, but we live in the real world where rich people don't have to pay for stuff they don't want to directly pay for

 

[Rice Cube]

Muskat's Twitter also has a bunch of other pix:

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[85Bears4life]

 

[Sunbiz1]

I think no matter what the price of the tickets are there is a tax surcharge on it, so raising the ticket prices means that you're raising the taxes anyway. I'm not a budget expert or anything but that's what should logically happen.

What I understand from the articles is that the Ricketts will get to retain a certain percentage of the taxes gained from each ticket sale and apply it towards fixing the field. We've already discussed the pros and cons of rebuilding versus a full-scale renovation in the other thread. Yeah, you'd expect rich people to just pay for everything themselves, but we live in the real world where rich people don't have to pay for stuff they don't want to directly pay for

I understand, but they could have been be more forthright. As opposed to simply raising tic prices, they hid it in the fine print so-to-speak.

So this is your patch-worked Wrigley until a new ballpark can be truly afforded.

 

[bossdrb]

as long as the ivy, scoreboard, "Friendly Confines" era is still there, then im fine w/ it. there will always be modernization & it's necessary for the times.

 

[Rice Cube]

The LED screen seems to work...

 

[85Bears4life]

The LED screen seems to work...

Did they really have to put the basket fencing up in front of the Board?

 

[Rice Cube]

Did they really have to put the basket fencing up in front of the Board?

I think that was the plan. They didn't want to affect the ground rules or home run boundaries. I think the basket has to stay as is because if the ball bounces off the side of the basket (but doesn't go over) it's still in play. Gameplay remains the same.

 

[Uman85]

I think that was the plan. They didn't want to affect the ground rules or home run boundaries. I think the basket has to stay as is because if the ball bounces off the side of the basket (but doesn't go over) it's still in play. Gameplay remains the same.

That would be my guess.

 

[Rice Cube]

Ricketts: Wrigley was 'under-invested' - Chicago Cubs Blog - ESPN Chicago

 

[85Bears4life]

Ricketts: Wrigley was 'under-invested' - Chicago Cubs Blog - ESPN Chicago

If the renovation project moves forward, Ricketts said the work likely will be done incrementally during several offseasons, mirroring the model the Boston Red Sox followed during Fenway Park’s makeover. Ricketts acknowledged the plan takes longer and is more costly, but at this point he is not interested in re-locating the Cubs to another park for a season during construction.

He and MLB really need to do this. If a complete renovation is to happen, why do it in small increments when you can do it at one time?

Play somewhere else for 1 season(shouldn't take more than 1 season to completely renovate Wrigley)

 

[Rice Cube]

He and MLB really need to do this. If a complete renovation is to happen, why do it in small increments when you can do it at one time?

Play somewhere else for 1 season(shouldn't take more than 1 season to completely renovate Wrigley)

This might also be contingent on how much public funding they can score.

 

[Rice Cube]

Wrigley Field

 

[Sunbiz1]

This might also be contingent on how much public funding they can score.

What I can't figure out is why the word renovation is still being discussed. For one, there isn't enough existing room to add to. And all those residents you said would be opposed to a 2-mile move really are not...as mentioned previously many would welcome the circus in someone else's backyard.

 

[Rice Cube]

What I can't figure out is why the word renovation is still being discussed. For one, there isn't enough existing room to add to. And all those residents you said would be opposed to a 2-mile move really are not...as mentioned previously many would welcome the circus in someone else's backyard.

There are going to be NIMBY folk everywhere, just like there are going to be folks in Wrigleyville who will freak out if their property values go into the dumpster if the Cubs picked up and moved.

 

[Sunbiz1]

There are going to be NIMBY folk everywhere, just like there are going to be folks in Wrigleyville who will freak out if their property values go into the dumpster if the Cubs picked up and moved.

If that were the case, all properties not in close proximity to the current park would already be in the dumpster. Local business should be in a favor of relocation b/c the team won't have to play elsewhere during construction.

And I realize that was just 1 game, but yesterday brought up yet another reason to ditch the current park. No matter what the personnel, the Cubs cannot find ways to score at home until Memorial Day. You almost have to build rosters around the stadium, play small ball early so there isn't the annual June hole to dig out of.

 

[Rice Cube]

If that were the case, all properties not in close proximity to the current park would already be in the dumpster. Local business should be in a favor of relocation b/c the team won't have to play elsewhere during construction.

And I realize that was just 1 game, but yesterday brought up yet another reason to ditch the current park. No matter what the personnel, the Cubs cannot find ways to score at home until Memorial Day. You almost have to build rosters around the stadium, play small ball early so there isn't the annual June hole to dig out of.

Both teams have to deal with the same elements y'know. The games might be low-scoring, but the better team usually scores more runs. Most of the Cubs' offensive issues have to do with the fact that they're not very good at baseball. Yeah, the clubhouses being cramped and having no in-game batting cages is bad, but ultimately it involves actually getting good baseball players on the field.

All I am saying is that this issue isn't as easy as you think it is. It'd be great if the owners said "**** this shit" and just moved the team to another venue, but having to jump over the city, landmark folks, the neighborhood, etc...that's a lot of hurdles, man.

 

[Sunbiz1]

Both teams have to deal with the same elements y'know. The games might be low-scoring, but the better team usually scores more runs. Most of the Cubs' offensive issues have to do with the fact that they're not very good at baseball. Yeah, the clubhouses being cramped and having no in-game batting cages is bad, but ultimately it involves actually getting good baseball players on the field.

All I am saying is that this issue isn't as easy as you think it is. It'd be great if the owners said "**** this shit" and just moved the team to another venue, but having to jump over the city, landmark folks, the neighborhood, etc...that's a lot of hurdles, man.

Since when is 2 miles a different venue?, 5 minute bus ride or 30 minute walk if you're on crutches. The alternative will be the very same businesses you think are opposed to the move having an entire year with no games at all.

And how many do you think would survive paying those overpriced leases minus 50% of their annual patrons?.

 

[Rice Cube]

Since when is 2 miles a different venue?, 5 minute bus ride or 30 minute walk if you're on crutches. The alternative will be the very same businesses you think are opposed to the move having an entire year with no games at all.

And how many do you think would survive paying those overpriced leases minus 50% of their annual patrons?.

What I am saying to you is that I agree with you that they should build new and play somewhere else for a while, or play in Wrigley while a new place is set up. But the bajillionaire owners don't want to, and they are the only ones (other than the city, neighborhood, etc) that matter. They are going with the Red Sox plan. I don't know how it will work, and I don't know if they'll change their minds, but lots of people have spoken. Let's see what happens.