All Wrigley Field renovation thread

[nwfisch]

Just move the Cubs to Frankfort .

 

[Rice Cube]

They had the Rooftop Group Leader (a lass named Murphy, who also owns Murphy's bar near Wrigley) on the radio this morning. While she was kind of an idiot and overstated the importance of the Rooftops to the Wrigley "experience", to me its a pretty simple issue. The Cubs were dumb enough to, first, legally recognize the rooftop owners and, second, enter into a 20-year contract with them. The Cubs were greedy, and wanted the 17% cut of the rooftop revenue. So while nearly everyone is against the Rooftop owners for holding up the process, they have a legit beef because they have a contract with the Cubs organization. Blame the Cubs for being dumb in the first place.

Being that it was the previous ownership, I think we can applaud the new ownership for recognizing that previous ownership was dumb and getting out of the contract any way they can by basically bribing the city and Tom Tunney better than the rooftops can.

We can argue the ethics of that later. Cubs > rooftops, though.

 

[Rice Cube]

LOL at this. I'm sure that the new ownership (Ricketts) had no problem accepting the 17% cut from the Rooftop-generated revenue. Can't have it both ways. There is nothing to "argue" from an ethics standpoint. The Cubs organization ethics are reprehensible, as they usually are.

That depends on whether you think that internal advertising revenue via outfield signage and a jumbotron is equivalent to that 17%. If you are complacent and just accept the status quo, of course you'll just take that 17% instead of nothing. But if you run the numbers and say that you can make much more yourself using a jumbotron...let them keep their 17%.

 

[Parade_Rain]

I'd rather they move and get a stadium with a retractable roof.

 

[Rice Cube]

Done, pending rooftop shitfits...

http://www.chicagobusiness.com/arti...130419917?template=mobile&X-IgnoreUserAgent=1

 

[Heisenberg]

Looks like a deal has been reached.

http://www.chicagobusiness.com/arti...y-field-renovation-deal-reached#ixzz2QV9y1o5H

 

[JZsportsfan]

YAY!!!

 

[85Bears4life]

with the big jumbotron in left...

7th inning stretch, fans could sing with harry caray again with old video of the late cubs broadcaster

 

[Heisenberg]

with the big jumbotron in left...

7th inning stretch, fans could sing with harry caray again with old video of the late cubs broadcaster

YOU BETCHA

 

[Rice Cube]

Quasi legalese here, but 85, you need to either link to the original sources where you copy and pasted that stuff from, put in a quick note about where you got it, or spoiler it. Or I can do it. Taking stuff from another source and not properly attributing it is a big no-no.

Carry on.

Jumbotron!!! :woot:

 

[Shawon0Meter]

Should've given the 5 years 500 million to some high caliber free agents imo

:cubstroll2:

Glad this stuff is getting done!

 

[Rice Cube]

But its not a question of "17%", its a question of whether or not the Cubs are in violation of their contract with the rooftop owners. I think its fairly obvious that they are.

I guess they don't care then. If they can make significantly more money doing what they're doing than whatever the rooftops can reasonably sue them for, while gaining much more autonomy in what they are allowed to do with respect to their own business, then **** the rooftops.

But yes, I'm biased.

 

[Rice Cube]

Proposal:

http://cbschicago.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/cubsproposal-final.pdf

Live stream of presser:

http://www.csnchicago.com/page/livecubs

 

[MRubio52]

I guess we are talking about two different things. You are talking about the Cubs maximizing profits, I am talking about the Cubs' lack of ethics.

When we get right down to it, suppressing players service time to save money, cutting the international market to save money (essentially screwing over everyone but the owners), building publicly funded stadiums, using strong arm political tactics, it's hardly a surprise that the Cubs lack ethics. If you look all franchises are about maximizing profits and realistically the Yankees come the closest to being purely about winning.

Yes. The Cubs lack ethics. What is the overarching point?


HI THIS IS JI-

 

[MRubio52]

The "overarching point" is how the public perceives the rooftop owners as being the "bad guys", when the real issue is the Cubs organization's stupidity/greed that had them agreeing to a contract with the rooftop owners in the first place. I don't see what the "gray area" is...the Cubs signed a contract, and within a few years they already want to break the contract.

If you want a direct answer as to why the public perceives the rooftop owners to be the bad guys it is because the public perceives them to be stealing a product that they have no real right to, and that's where the grey area comes from.

As for me personally, I don't care. I don't have a lot of interest in discussing non-player financial matters in baseball much because I simply do not have enough knowledge on the subject to bring anything real to the discussion.

 

[MRubio52]

If you want a direct answer as to why the public perceives the rooftop owners to be the bad guys it is because the public perceives them to be stealing a product that they have no real right to, and that's where the grey area comes from.

As for me personally, I don't care. I don't have a lot of interest in discussing non-player financial matters in baseball much because I simply do not have enough knowledge on the subject to bring anything real to the discussion.

That should read "I don't care anymore," because I did once but the longer it dragged on the less I cared.

 

[Rice Cube]

Roobs don't care about nothin'

 

[Ari Bear]

Stupid! For that money they can build a new Wrigley! You have been offered 25 acres of new space! Move!!!! For crying out loud!!!!!

 

[DewsSox79]

I want to know how doing all of this locks up a world series.

 

[DewsSox79]

The "overarching point" is how the public perceives the rooftop owners as being the "bad guys", when the real issue is the Cubs organization's stupidity/greed that had them agreeing to a contract with the rooftop owners in the first place. I don't see what the "gray area" is...the Cubs signed a contract, and within a few years they already want to break the contract.

yeah I mean its black and white. there is a contract so the rooftop owners have a legit complaint.