American Flag

[Shawon0Meter]

Hey Grimson

if ya want some....

come get some

 

[HeHateMe]

And seriously. You guys need to change that flag to something a little more subtle. When you use it for window curtains its really hard to decorate a room around it. Other countries have it right with three colored bars. Thats all you really need. Im not saying the canadian flag is better. That thing is just fucking weird with a leaf in the middle of it it may actually be too subtle. We need to combine our flags maybe? Have no idea why we arent one big official country anyways. That border between us is bullshit.

You don't want your crazies getting OUR guns.

 

[SERE Bear]

I'm open to the possibility that he didn't actually mean that, which is why I said "you make it sound like ....", rather than "you think ....".

Wife just had sugeory today and needs me around so I'll make this brief.

I gave a personal preference based on my real world experience and was careful to not state that the USA is the only place with freedom or values. I would have thought you would have taken issue with the fact that I implied the other counties that are worth living in today basically followed our lead over the last 200 years.

 

[botfly10]

It's really bizarre. I have some really bright associates who don't think we should take pride in our country. For all the bad things our government has done, both internally and externally, the American people give to the world at a big rate. Our missions work is second to none.

I bet you are mistaking being real about the actions your country has taken in your name and disliking the government.

Adults need to be capable of being both ashamed of the US's fucked up actions and proud of the US's great actions at the same time. You drop either one and you are no longer engaged in reality.

 

[Parade_Rain]

Not necessarily, but mostly, yes. The choice is still arbitrary compared to one's nationality.

Not in my house. All Chicago and UIUC. Anything else and I don't claim them as offspring. [emoji1]

 

[Shantz My Pants]

I respect the American Flag as to me, it's a symbol of our country and what we've fought for over the past couple centuries. Because it's a symbol, everyone has their own values and beliefs on it, which are allowed due to our freedom.

I myself don't like seeing the flag being burned (which I believe is illegal unless done to get rid of it and has a certain procedure) or desecrated.


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[mikita's helmet]

I respect the American Flag as to me, it's a symbol of our country and what we've fought for over the past couple centuries. Because it's a symbol, everyone has their own values and beliefs on it, which are allowed due to our freedom.

I myself don't like seeing the flag being burned (which I believe is illegal unless done to get rid of it and has a certain procedure) or desecrated.


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US Supreme Court Decision

Texas v. Johnson, 491 U.S. 397 (1989)

During the 1984 Republican National Convention, respondent Johnson participated in a political demonstration to protest the policies of the Reagan administration and some Dallas-based corporations. After a march through the city streets, Johnson burned an American flag while protesters chanted. No one was physically injured or threatened with injury, although several witnesses were seriously offended by the flag burning. Johnson was convicted of desecration of a venerated object in violation of a Texas statute, and a state court of appeals affirmed. However, the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals reversed, holding that the State, consistent with the First Amendment, could not punish Johnson for burning the flag in these circumstances. The court first found that Johnson's burning of the flag was expressive conduct protected by the First Amendment. The court concluded that the State could not criminally sanction flag desecration in order to preserve the flag as a symbol of national unity. It also held that the statute did not meet the State's goal of preventing breaches of the peace, since it was not drawn narrowly enough to encompass only those flag burnings that would likely result in a serious disturbance, and since the flag burning in this case did not threaten such a reaction. Further, it stressed that another Texas statute prohibited breaches of the peace and could be used to prevent disturbances without punishing this flag desecration.

Held: Johnson's conviction for flag desecration is inconsistent with the First Amendment. Pp. 491 U. S. 402-420.

https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/491/397/case.html

 

[Shantz My Pants]

You know I don't speak Spanish...


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[number51]

US Supreme Court Decision

Texas v. Johnson, 491 U.S. 397 (1989)

During the 1984 Republican National Convention, respondent Johnson participated in a political demonstration to protest the policies of the Reagan administration and some Dallas-based corporations. After a march through the city streets, Johnson burned an American flag while protesters chanted. No one was physically injured or threatened with injury, although several witnesses were seriously offended by the flag burning. Johnson was convicted of desecration of a venerated object in violation of a Texas statute, and a state court of appeals affirmed. However, the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals reversed, holding that the State, consistent with the First Amendment, could not punish Johnson for burning the flag in these circumstances. The court first found that Johnson's burning of the flag was expressive conduct protected by the First Amendment. The court concluded that the State could not criminally sanction flag desecration in order to preserve the flag as a symbol of national unity. It also held that the statute did not meet the State's goal of preventing breaches of the peace, since it was not drawn narrowly enough to encompass only those flag burnings that would likely result in a serious disturbance, and since the flag burning in this case did not threaten such a reaction. Further, it stressed that another Texas statute prohibited breaches of the peace and could be used to prevent disturbances without punishing this flag desecration.

Held: Johnson's conviction for flag desecration is inconsistent with the First Amendment. Pp. 491 U. S. 402-420.

https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/491/397/case.html

"No one was physically injured or threatened with injury, although several witnesses were seriously offended by the flag burning."

The pussification of America.


Pussies.

 

[mikita's helmet]

"No one was physically injured or threatened with injury, although several witnesses were seriously offended by the flag burning."

The pussification of America.


Pussies.

Yeah it started in 1984 at this event.

 

[Rush]

I think it's the RED WHITE & BLUE WRECKING CREW. If you ain't down with it, kick dust.

 

[botfly10]

feel like i missed some good stuff in this thread

 

[botfly10]

I think it's the RED WHITE & BLUE WRECKING CREW. If you ain't down with it, kick dust.

wat? Is this the "love it or leave it" sentiment?

And what the shit is the wrecking crew? Is this real?

 

[xer0h0ur]

'Murica. Engrish or GTFO!