Andrew Shaw calls out Justin Bieber for stepping on Blackhawks logo in locker room

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FT thinks its stupid?

He'll yah, that makes it an even better tradition!

It would make more sense back in the days of guys not switching teams every 2 seasons. Seriously, like Marian Hossa needs to be reminded what the Hawks logo stands for each time he has to avoid it? Dude played for one of the premier hockey franchises before he got to Chicago. Also, like that logo stands for anything different than what any other logo "stands for" some rah rah bullshit about trying hard or sacrifice or something.
 

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I agree, it is part of what makes team sports fun. Also, it's not like this is a Blackhawks only thing.... This is league-wide.

Which makes it even fucking dumber. What exactly does the Lighting logo stand for? The Panthers? The Blue Jackets etc?

At this point its just a tradition to be a tradition no real meaning.
 

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It's stands for respect and not putting yourself above the team. Is it slightly archaic? Sure, but it is still a tradition.
 

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Bieber can die in a fire but it's a stupid tradition anyways.

Nah. Judging by his apparent lack of self-control, every week that goes by has me thinking that Beiber's going to go out River Phoenix style.
 

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Cool story. You aren't down with nostalgia and traditions in team sports. I am.

No. I just don't like people getting up in arms over stupid traditions and nostalgia or trying to illogically defend them. Not stepping on a logo in a lockerroom in an era of constant player movement and free agency?

Tim Thomas doesn't step on a Bruins logo but demands a trade or sits out the season for whatever damn reason he wants but he didn't put himself above the team because he didn't step on a piece of colored carpet?

GTFO.

:andruw:

**** that.

Go home hockey. You're drunk.
 

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He's the same clown that thinks fighting serves no purpose in hockey.

Fighting doesn't serve a purpose in hockey. It's a stupid way for guys to get hurt.

Playoff hockey doesn't really have full on fights. It's the best hockey you'll see all year. Teams can get physical without having to throw the gloves down and punch a guy three or four times and then spend 5 minutes in the box.
 

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Fighting doesn't serve a purpose in hockey. It's a stupid way for guys to get hurt.

Playoff hockey doesn't really have full on fights. It's the best hockey you'll see all year. Teams can get physical without having to throw the gloves down and punch a guy three or four times and then spend 5 minutes in the box.

It also doesn't exist in the Olympics. You know that crazy competitive competition for world supremacy.

European leagues also survive without it.

But yeah it's totally important when the Panthers and Avalanche have two goons throw down TO GET MOAR MOMEMTUM!
 

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Fighting serves a purpose in the regular season. It helps protect the superstars. Ask Gretzky how many times he would have been run over if Edmonton didn't have two goons.
 

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Fighting serves a purpose in the regular season. It helps protect the superstars. Ask Gretzky how many times he would have been run over if Edmonton didn't have two goons.

Oh awesome. Remember when Crosby wasn't hurt.

Oh wait.

This protecting the stars bullshit is Special person.

I have my Tyson on skates take a run at Crosby and level him. He's gone. You've lost Sid, I've lost Tyson on skates. You can take a run at my star and we can duke it out but at the end of the day you can eliminate stars pretty easily. If anything there should be MORE fighting in the playoffs because stars are more valuable in the games that matter the most...so they should need even MORE protection.yet fighting almost goes extinct during Cup time.


Go home hockey logic. You're drunk.
 

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No. I just don't like people getting up in arms over stupid traditions and nostalgia or trying to illogically defend them. Not stepping on a logo in a lockerroom in an era of constant player movement and free agency?

Tim Thomas doesn't step on a Bruins logo but demands a trade or sits out the season for whatever damn reason he wants but he didn't put himself above the team because he didn't step on a piece of colored carpet?

GTFO.

:andruw:

**** that.

Go home hockey. You're drunk.

You disagree with something so that means its stupid, Special person and drunk.

Gotcha.
 

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You disagree with something so that means its stupid, Special person and drunk.

Gotcha.

No. It's stupid Special person and drunk therefore I disagree with it.

You have it backwards.
 

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Oh awesome. Remember when Crosby wasn't hurt.

Oh wait.

Now you're just being an ass. I said it HELPS protect them. Hockey is a contact sport so of course there will still be injuries, kind of like Crosby's last injury: a puck to the face that resulted in a broken jaw.

Stop with the god complex, if you are able to.
 

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Now you're just being an ass.
What are you going to do about it?

Send Carcillo after me?

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I have my Tyson on skates take a run at Crosby and level him. He's gone. You've lost Sid, I've lost Tyson on skates. You can take a run at my star and we can duke it out but at the end of the day you can eliminate stars pretty easily. If anything there should be MORE fighting in the playoffs because stars are more valuable in the games that matter the most...so they should need even MORE protection.yet fighting almost goes extinct during Cup time.


Go home hockey logic. You're drunk.
 

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BTW, I was referring to Crosby's concussions as the result of hits that apparently fighting should have helped protect him from...but didn't.
 

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It also doesn't exist in the Olympics. You know that crazy competitive competition for world supremacy.

European leagues also survive without it.

But yeah it's totally important when the Panthers and Avalanche have two goons throw down TO GET MOAR MOMEMTUM!

Exactly. A big hit can change the momentum just as well as a fight. If fighting is eliminated a roster spot can be opened up for another player with some actual skill. Brandon Bollig type players would no longer be in the league which is fantastic.

There's no need for fighting. Without it, hockey is still the most physical sport other than maybe rugby. If the NHL is really worried about player safety they'll get rid of pointless fighting.

As far as was Gunz said about protecting star players....that can be done without a fight. Yes, a fight sends a message to back off. But being purely physical will do the same thing. The Bruins, for example, are an extremely physical team. No doubt they got into fights during the regular season, but they didn't need to.
 

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Exactly. A big hit can change the momentum just as well as a fight. If fighting is eliminated a roster spot can be opened up for another player with some actual skill. Brandon Bollig type players would no longer be in the league which is fantastic.

There's no need for fighting. Without it, hockey is still the most physical sport other than maybe rugby. If the NHL is really worried about player safety they'll get rid of pointless fighting.

As far as was Gunz said about protecting star players....that can be done without a fight. Yes, a fight sends a message to back off. But being purely physical will do the same thing. The Bruins, for example, are an extremely physical team. No doubt they got into fights during the regular season, but they didn't need to.
On top of this fighting in the NHL has been on a decline for quite a few years now. If it's so intrinsically important to the sport and serves such an important purpose why isn't the NHL folding or seeing dips in production, attendance, popularity etc? Why does it disappear in the playoffs for the most part? If it's so important why during the most important time of the year does it go the way of the dodo?

People can't sit here and argue fighting is so important to hockey then have the Olympics ban it, Euro leagues ban it, colleges basically ban it, and watch NHL popularity and financial well being rise as fighting actually trends downward.

If you want to say you like fighting because you like watching two guys punch eachother in the face and get off from it, fine just say it. But don't defend it with this illogical "importance to the game angle" when every logical reason shows it's really not.
 

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