Andrew Shaw calls out Justin Bieber for stepping on Blackhawks logo in locker room

[FirstTimer]

Also, I agree with you about the

If the NHL is really worried about player safety they'll get rid of pointless fighting.

The NHL is trying to push itself forward as a league that cares about head trauma and player safety but still actively allows an activity outside the bounds of actual game play where players are allowed to hit each other in the face and head.

Good logic here..............

:andruw:

 

[TheChicagoFan]

Honestly, if you want to watch two guys punch each other order some PPV boxing.

I've been at a game when there's a fight and no doubt it gets the crowd going and it's kind of exciting to watch. But it has zero importance to the game.

 

[DMelt36]

That's great and all but it all sounds blatantly Special person.


Special person.

It stands for a team I might hate in 2 years because I'm playing somewhere else.

Stupid shit is stupid.

"You can argue the sacred reverence of the logo when they stop putting it on dog bowls."

Traditions are how you develop an identity for whatever it is your team is trying to accomplish. Yeah, you can certainly win without them. But it's way cooler when you've got them. Any good sports franchise/program has them. If you don't like them, good for you. There not meant for you anyway.

But you'll just keep calling everything stupid, I'll just keep telling you that you don't get it, which means this whole argument will go absolutely nowhere.

 

[DMelt36]

BTW, I was referring to Crosby's concussions as the result of hits that apparently fighting should have helped protect him from...but didn't.

One of them came from his own teammate, so maybe they should be fighting at practice now?

 

[inactiveuser1]

Again, Bieber can :gtfo:

 

[FirstTimer]

Traditions are how you develop an identity for whatever it is your team is trying to accomplish.

I would think the goal in the NHL is pretty simple. Win the Stanley Cup.

I don't need to avoid stepping on A penguin in ice skates to realize that or be focused or develop an identity.

But it's way lamer when you've got them.

Fixed.

Any good sports franchise/program has them.

You have it reversed. They happen to have traditions because they are good. They aren't good because they have traditions. Meatball sports fans seem to think the traditions help the team win. They don't.

 

[FirstTimer]

One of them came from his own teammate, so maybe they should be fighting at practice now?

Wrong

http://espn.go.com/nhl/story/_/id/7459581/sidney-crosby-concussion

Crosby was felled by a blindside hit to the head from then-Capitals center David Steckel just before the end of the second period. He got up gingerly and had a noticeable limp as he walked to the locker room. But he took the Penguins' first shift of the third period.

"He got my head, for sure," Crosby said after the game. "But I can't comment on it. I don't even know. Maybe it was so far behind the play the officials didn't see it."

During in an 8-1 home win over Tampa Bay, Crosby was injured again when he was driven into the boards headfirst by Lightning defenseman Victor Hedman. Crosby finished that game and flew to Montreal with the team that night. When his condition did not improve, he returned to Pittsburgh on Jan. 6 for further tests.

Man, good thing all that fighting protected Sid's brain!

 

[DMelt36]

I would think the goal in the NHL is pretty simple. Win the Stanley Cup.

I don't need to avoid stepping on A penguin in ice skates to realize that or be focused or develop an identity.


Fixed.


You have it reversed. They happen to have traditions because they are good. They aren't good because they have traditions. Meatball sports fans seem to think the traditions help the team win. They don't.

They don't you help win a game. Fine. But they aren't losing any games either, are they?

I just don't get your rampant cynicism over a team having a tradition.

 

[DMelt36]

And using the whole "meatball" phrase in your argument is just appealing the lowest common denominator of sports fans, and there's really no reason to get them involved.

 

[DMelt36]

Wrong

http://espn.go.com/nhl/story/_/id/7459581/sidney-crosby-concussion





Man, good thing all that fighting protected Sid's brain!

Calm down there FT. That was purely sarcastic. I don't give a shit about fighting in hockey.

But I could've sworn one of his teammates kneed him in the back of the head accidentally during a game soon after returning from a concussion.

[Edit] That was Giroux. Never mind.

 

[FirstTimer]

They don't you help win a game. Fine. But they aren't losing any games either, are they?

I never said they lost you games. I said they are dumb.

Which they are.

My cynicism stems from people defending dog shit stupid traditions as though they mean anything at all and actually "help a team form an identity" or "make you think about what it means" in an ear of rampant free agency and trades.

I'm fine with traditions existing, no matter how stupid, but just don't bother defending them as though they actually mean anything substantive to the success of a franchise or team. They don't. It's a fun little sideshow and distraction.

 

[DMelt36]

I never said they lost you games. I said they are dumb.

Which they are.

My cynicism stems from people defending dog shit stupid traditions as though they mean anything at all and actually "help a team form an identity" or "make you think about what it means" in an ear of rampant free agency and trades.

I'm fine with traditions existing, no matter how stupid, but just don't bother defending them as though they actually mean anything substantive to the success of a franchise or team. They don't. It's a fun little sideshow and distraction.

Fair enough.

But, to me, it certainly seems like the better teams have more traditions. There's no real way to quantify this, and I think it's probably more true on the high school and college levels than it is in the pros. Perhaps all those traditions are just a byproduct of all the trophies in the team's cases. Who knows.

 

[FirstTimer]

Fair enough.

But, to me, it certainly seems like the better teams have more traditions.

I already addressed this

They happen to have traditions because they are good. They aren't good because they have traditions.

How many dick ball bad teams do you know that have many traditions? Traditions grow out of being good. They don't actually help you become good.

 

[DMelt36]

How many dick ball bad teams do you know that have many traditions? Traditions grow out of being good. They don't actually help you become good.

I know I've seen some bad teams but I'm not sure I've seen a team bad enough to reach "dick ball" bad.

 

[FirstTimer]

I know I've seen some bad teams but I'm not sure I've seen a team bad enough to reach "dick ball" bad.

Illinois has a ton of traditions for their football team.


They suck.

What identity are these traditions trying to breed?

 

[FirstTimer]

All of Notre Dame's traditions didn't stop them from sucking out loud for stretches of time.

Same with schools like Bama, Texas, etc

 

[DMelt36]

All of Notre Dame's traditions didn't stop them from sucking out loud for stretches of time.

Same with schools like Bama, Texas, etc

I get your point.

 

[FirstTimer]

I get your point.

Tim Beckman called.

He'd like to borrow your HS teams animal bone.

 

[DMelt36]

Tim Beckman called.

He'd like to borrow your HS teams animal bone.

That's a capital "B" in bone, thank you very much.

 

[FirstTimer]

That's a capital "B" in bone, thank you very much.

Tim beckman apologies and sacrifices the capitalization of his last name to capitalize your animal Bone.

Do thoust spirits accept thine offer?