Anthony Rizzo guarantees....

[beckdawg]

The Cards fans I know want the Cubs to be good, so the rivalry can actually mean something. It should. It is better than Sox/Yanks IMHO, but the Cubs record makes the best Midwest rivalry irrelevant year in/year out. That's one of the exciting things that could happen if the Cubs organization can raise their game and sustain it.

I tend to agree with this. I'd just assume the cubs and the cards destroy teams and meet each other in the playoffs.

 

[TC in Mississippi]

I knew when that first Sox bash post came up it would open up Pandora's box here.

My opinion is the Sox are a safer bet getting a play off spot (due to having more established talent). But the Cubs have a better chance of long term success due to having a deeper farm and a larger resource pool. (Bigger market share)

Everything else is just BS

Pretty accurate and it goes along with their respective management strategies neither of which, btw, is inherently wrong. The Sox see a window that could open and they aim for the window, the Cubs under Theo are seeking to open a long, sustainable window. Sale and Samardzija is arguably the best lefty/righty TOR tandem in the game on paper. The Cubs have a solid, if unspectacular, rotation headed by a proven starter just below ace level. The Cubs line up is loaded with potential but only two or three proven commodities. The Sox have a solid core with some unspectacular pieces around them. Both bullpens could be very good but nobody in their right minds predicts bullpen performance year to year, the best you can do is build depth and hope for the best. If you had to say which one of them had a better playoff shot you'd have to, with any logical thinking, pick the Sox. Baseball, however is rarely logical.

I will say this, Detroit is my candidate to fall off a cliff a la the Phillies a couple of years ago. They don't look right to me and I think Verlander is ordinary at best. That leaves the AL Central wide open. If I were Rick Hahn and company I would aim for this window as well.

 

[Parade_Rain]

I will say this, Detroit is my candidate to fall off a cliff a la the Phillies a couple of years ago. They don't look right to me and I think Verlander is ordinary at best. That leaves the AL Central wide open. If I were Rick Hahn and company I would aim for this window as well.

Good call on Detroit. This is why I don't even mention them WRT the Sox and Royals. Price will be available at the deadline as a rental for some team. [/Nostra_Rain]

 

[2323]

I knew when that first Sox bash post came up it would open up Pandora's box here.

My opinion is the Sox are a safer bet getting a play off spot (due to having more established talent). But the Cubs have a better chance of long term success due to having a deeper farm and a larger resource pool. (Bigger market share)

Everything else is just BS

That's the same as saying, "I knew if I turned on the light, I'd see all the **** roaches."

 

[2323]

Soo, what's your point?

WGN gave the Cubs national coverage and a bigger fan base. The Cubs have done a miserable job of leveraging that popularity to become a successful organization.

Most Cubs fans couldn't care less about baseball. They enjoy the exclusivity of rooting for a perennial underdog. Thus the term "lovable loser." No one loves a loser, except Cubs fans.

I've also noticed that many of the "local" fans are from the outer suburbs, not the city, which explains the hatred towards the "dirty" White Sox. The ugliness exhibited by "local" Cubs fans towards anything to do with the Sox is palpable, and directly related to privilege, race, and perceived class.


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There really is no such thing as a sox fan. That's what happens when something has a negative definition. By negative definition, I'm referring to something that is defined by what it's not more than what it is. So again, there's no such thing as a sox fan. Rather, there is a collection of people that are more accurately defined as people who reject the Cubs--again, a negative definition. This collection of anti Cubs people (euphemistically referred to as sox fans) aren't really pro anything. Just look at the white sox attendance and, for that matter, look at the forum "sox fans" spend the most time participating in. Again, they're far more anti Cubs than they are pro anything. And since its a "fan base" with a negative definition, it exists to troll and to embrace Schadenfreude. If you don't agree, too bad. It's the truth. Otherwise "sox fans" would spend more time in the sox forum.

 

[X]

There really is no such thing as a sox fan. That's what happens when something has a negative definition. By negative definition, I'm referring to something that is defined by what it's not more than what it is. So again, there's no such thing as a sox fan. Rather, there is a collection of people that are more accurately defined as people who reject the Cubs--again, a negative definition. This collection of anti Cubs people (euphemistically referred to as sox fans) aren't really pro anything. Just look at the white sox attendance and, for that matter, look at the forum "sox fans" spend the most time participating in. Again, they're far more anti Cubs than they are pro anything. And since its a "fan base" with a negative definition, it exists to troll and to embrace Schadenfreude. If you don't agree, too bad. It's the truth. Otherwise "sox fans" would spend more time in the sox forum.

It'll take a minute for some to comprehend that. :lol:

At the end of the day...if any sox fans are trolling, report the shit out of their troll posts. Do it immediately so it can't be changed later, but ONLY report troll posts. Things will change with the squeakiest wheel.

 

[2323]

It'll take a minute for some to comprehend that. :lol:

At the end of the day...if any sox fans are trolling, report the shit out of their troll posts. Do it immediately so it can't be changed later, but ONLY report troll posts. Things will change with the squeakiest wheel.

Thanks but it won't happen. It's problematic when the biggest culprit is a mod, and one who openly embraces/flaunts the fact that he enjoys trolling. There's no point.

 

[DewsSox79]

There really is no such thing as a sox fan. That's what happens when something has a negative definition. By negative definition, I'm referring to something that is defined by what it's not more than what it is. So again, there's no such thing as a sox fan. Rather, there is a collection of people that are more accurately defined as people who reject the Cubs--again, a negative definition. This collection of anti Cubs people (euphemistically referred to as sox fans) aren't really pro anything. Just look at the white sox attendance and, for that matter, look at the forum "sox fans" spend the most time participating in. Again, they're far more anti Cubs than they are pro anything. And since its a "fan base" with a negative definition, it exists to troll and to embrace Schadenfreude. If you don't agree, too bad. It's the truth. Otherwise "sox fans" would spend more time in the sox forum.

attendance and stuff


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[DewsSox79]

Pretty accurate and it goes along with their respective management strategies neither of which, btw, is inherently wrong. The Sox see a window that could open and they aim for the window, the Cubs under Theo are seeking to open a long, sustainable window. Sale and Samardzija is arguably the best lefty/righty TOR tandem in the game on paper. The Cubs have a solid, if unspectacular, rotation headed by a proven starter just below ace level. The Cubs line up is loaded with potential but only two or three proven commodities. The Sox have a solid core with some unspectacular pieces around them. Both bullpens could be very good but nobody in their right minds predicts bullpen performance year to year, the best you can do is build depth and hope for the best. If you had to say which one of them had a better playoff shot you'd have to, with any logical thinking, pick the Sox. Baseball, however is rarely logical.

I will say this, Detroit is my candidate to fall off a cliff a la the Phillies a couple of years ago. They don't look right to me and I think Verlander is ordinary at best. That leaves the AL Central wide open. If I were Rick Hahn and company I would aim for this window as well.

you have to aim for that window. I dont think their plan was exactly what we did. I think when they saw the royals lose pieces and detroit having its issues all over the place they decided to put themselves in position to take advantage of that. but as you said with this game the twins can win the division by 15 games and mauer could be mvp


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[brett05]

Pretty accurate and it goes along with their respective management strategies neither of which, btw, is inherently wrong. The Sox see a window that could open and they aim for the window, the Cubs under Theo are seeking to open a long, sustainable window. Sale and Samardzija is arguably the best lefty/righty TOR tandem in the game on paper. The Cubs have a solid, if unspectacular, rotation headed by a proven starter just below ace level. The Cubs line up is loaded with potential but only two or three proven commodities. The Sox have a solid core with some unspectacular pieces around them. Both bullpens could be very good but nobody in their right minds predicts bullpen performance year to year, the best you can do is build depth and hope for the best. If you had to say which one of them had a better playoff shot you'd have to, with any logical thinking, pick the Sox. Baseball, however is rarely logical.

I will say this, Detroit is my candidate to fall off a cliff a la the Phillies a couple of years ago. They don't look right to me and I think Verlander is ordinary at best. That leaves the AL Central wide open. If I were Rick Hahn and company I would aim for this window as well.

The nice thing is neither team mortgaged the future for the opportunity hey both have and both are young enough to have the chance to have a decade of success

 

[brett05]

There really is no such thing as a sox fan. That's what happens when something has a negative definition. By negative definition, I'm referring to something that is defined by what it's not more than what it is. So again, there's no such thing as a sox fan. Rather, there is a collection of people that are more accurately defined as people who reject the Cubs--again, a negative definition. This collection of anti Cubs people (euphemistically referred to as sox fans) aren't really pro anything. Just look at the white sox attendance and, for that matter, look at the forum "sox fans" spend the most time participating in. Again, they're far more anti Cubs than they are pro anything. And since its a "fan base" with a negative definition, it exists to troll and to embrace Schadenfreude. If you don't agree, too bad. It's the truth. Otherwise "sox fans" would spend more time in the sox forum.

Sky is blue in our world....how about yours?

 

[ChiSoxCity]

There really is no such thing as a sox fan. That's what happens when something has a negative definition. By negative definition, I'm referring to something that is defined by what it's not more than what it is. So again, there's no such thing as a sox fan. Rather, there is a collection of people that are more accurately defined as people who reject the Cubs--again, a negative definition. This collection of anti Cubs people (euphemistically referred to as sox fans) aren't really pro anything. Just look at the white sox attendance and, for that matter, look at the forum "sox fans" spend the most time participating in. Again, they're far more anti Cubs than they are pro anything. And since its a "fan base" with a negative definition, it exists to troll and to embrace Schadenfreude. If you don't agree, too bad. It's the truth. Otherwise "sox fans" would spend more time in the sox forum.

There is no such thing as a Sox fan? Typical statement of a delusional Cub fan. You should really think these things out before you post this nonsense. Not that anyone has ever said Cubs fans are a particularly knowledgeable fanbase, but you have taken 'ignorant' to a whole other level.


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[Shawon0Meter]

It's the same arguments over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.

Cubs fans enjoying losing and the Cubs front office will never make a good decision. There's 17 White Sox fans on the planet and only 8 actually go to games. We all agree, it's settled.

 

[2323]

There is no such thing as a Sox fan? Typical statement of a delusional Cub fan. You should really think these things out before you post this nonsense. Not that anyone has ever said Cubs fans are a particularly knowledgeable fanbase, but you have taken 'ignorant' to a whole other level.


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I guess you don't see the irony of going to the Cubs forum to respond to what I said. You're exemplifying what I was talking about and just reinforcing my point. Well done.

So typical, so stupid.

 

[Bear Pride]

It's the same arguments over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.

Cubs fans enjoying losing and the Cubs front office will never make a good decision. There's 17 White Sox fans on the planet and only 8 actually go to games. We all agree, it's settled.

That's cuz the other 9 are too busy posting in the Cubs forum.

 

[JosMin]

I mean.... is it ever going to end?

 

[SilenceS]

I mean.... is it ever going to end?

Nope, but Im not sure why people get worked up over it. I just skip over it or make a fun shot back. It doesnt derail my motives in my opinion.

 

[brett05]

I mean.... is it ever going to end?

My guess is it will be greatly reduced when the Cub fans on this board stop taking the shots.

 

[Parade_Rain]

My guess is it will be greatly reduced when the Cub fans on this board stop taking the shots.

The basic concept that you are a gaijin in the cubs forum as a Sox fan is lost going above your head and below your feet.

 

[brett05]

The basic concept that you are a gaijin in the cubs forum as a Sox fan is lost going above your head and below your feet.

sad...really sad...