Art Thread

[jakobeast]

Are you interested in buying or just curious of what I would price something like that at. Obvioulsy people I know get them cheaper.



I am honestly horrible with sales. I am too nice and I have been known to give some away for free. When people show interest I get pretty flattered and end up dropping prices or even swapping them for other goods someone might have. I have traded paintings for knives, theatre tickets and even food gift certificates. Typical poor starving artist shit.

Dont feel shitty. Trade is best. That way there is no tax.



Also, you should paint something with me being your muse.

 

[jakobeast]

And how bout this?



http://blogs.ajc.com/news-to-me/2012/01/05/woman-damages-30-million-painting-with-buttocks/

 

[MassHavoc]

Are you interested in buying or just curious of what I would price something like that at. Obvioulsy people I know get them cheaper.



I am honestly horrible with sales. I am too nice and I have been known to give some away for free. When people show interest I get pretty flattered and end up dropping prices or even swapping them for other goods someone might have. I have traded paintings for knives, theatre tickets and even food gift certificates. Typical poor starving artist shit.

price for me to buy. I'm sure I probably can't afford it because I feel like real art is more than I feel like paying, not that its not worth it I just am not good at gauging value of art because I am not knowledgeable. If you'd rather pm me so as to be not public I'd be interested. Step one price. Step two wife. Her liking it too is more important than price, haha course I have veto power.

 

[the canadian dream]

LOL I don't mind giving out prices in public and I understand the wife thing completely.



The issue I have with selling art via the internets is sometimes photos don't exactly capture works properly. Esp with my crap cameras etc. It's only fair that one who is interested in purchasing sees the work as it is. Artis functioning as design in a space is important so I want to make sure the buyer knows exactly what they are getting. So for someone like you who I trust I would actually ship and let you feel it out before making a decision on something. It's only fair.



Seeing I am a minor name in a local art scene, value is lower as far as my pricing goes and rightfully so. Part of art investment is also predicting future worth of course. As my name grows as will the value of one of my works.



Cost wise currently my biggest concern is covering material costs. Paint is not cheap my time however is. Since I don't consider painting an actuall stress filled job and I find personal enjoyment out of it I am not too concerned with trying to find monetary payment for that unless it's commissioned work (as that adds stress).



Most of my works range btw 50.00- 200.00 in material. I typically then try to double that when pricing for profit. I think that is fair for the most part. Even though I have been told I could and should go no lower than taking material cost and multiply by 4 for sale price. That's from other artists etc. But they are also working with commision calculations including the middle man which is usually gallery owners. I don't deal with that middle man...yet.



I believe in art. I believe everyone should have an original piece thus I believe in selling at reasonable pricing. And the more I am exposed the better for myself aslo. So to have someone hang my work has priceless value for me and only helps my future. When I do get big then I will raise my prices to unreasonable prices....or my estate will..whcih is how it usually works.

 

[mikita's helmet]

who is this Art guy everyone keeps talking about.

My father in law, Art Fischer, and... he's nice.



hence, "Art is nice."

 

[mikita's helmet]

You can all say your nasty words and pretend you are too cool for art.

Pussy, asshole, felch, quim, creampie!

 

[The Mule]

LOL I don't mind giving out prices in public and I understand the wife thing completely.



The issue I have with selling art via the internets is sometimes photos don't exactly capture works properly. Esp with my crap cameras etc. It's only fair that one who is interested in purchasing sees the work as it is. Artis functioning as design in a space is important so I want to make sure the buyer knows exactly what they are getting. So for someone like you who I trust I would actually ship and let you feel it out before making a decision on something. It's only fair.



Seeing I am a minor name in a local art scene, value is lower as far as my pricing goes and rightfully so. Part of art investment is also predicting future worth of course. As my name grows as will the value of one of my works.



Cost wise currently my biggest concern is covering material costs. Paint is not cheap my time however is. Since I don't consider painting an actuall stress filled job and I find personal enjoyment out of it I am not too concerned with trying to find monetary payment for that unless it's commissioned work (as that adds stress).



Most of my works range btw 50.00- 200.00 in material. I typically then try to double that when pricing for profit. I think that is fair for the most part. Even though I have been told I could and should go no lower than taking material cost and multiply by 4 for sale price. That's from other artists etc. But they are also working with commision calculations including the middle man which is usually gallery owners. I don't deal with that middle man...yet.



I believe in art. I believe everyone should have an original piece thus I believe in selling at reasonable pricing. And the more I am exposed the better for myself aslo. So to have someone hang my work has priceless value for me and only helps my future. When I do get big then I will raise my prices to unreasonable prices....or my estate will..whcih is how it usually works.

You have a perfectly good art dealer right here!And I won't even take a cut.Okay, I will, but I won't be a dick about it. It's difficult to gauge your own work and put a price on it and also know about the markets, venues, collectors, random rich people who throw around hundreds of thousands on art just because the dealer or interior designer tells them that artist is a big name, etc. Obviously seeing the works in person gives the viewer a more complete sense, but seeing it online still has an impact, as is evidenced by the response you've received.



Also, shit, fart, boobs.



There, now I've covered all my bases.

 

[Ymono37]

Cost wise currently my biggest concern is covering material costs. Paint is not cheap my time however is. Since I don't consider painting an actuall stress filled job and I find personal enjoyment out of it I am not too concerned with trying to find monetary payment for that unless it's commissioned work (as that adds stress).

Totally understand - as a musician (and Jako might agree), they aren't paying me to play, I'll do that for free. They're paying me to haul my equipment somewhere, unload it, set it up and do all that in reverse... those are my costs. Also, extra scratch allows one to buy BETTER equipment/materials than they had before.



Also - dickcheese, twat, ****-nugget.

 

[MassHavoc]

LOL I don't mind giving out prices in public and I understand the wife thing completely.



The issue I have with selling art via the internets is sometimes photos don't exactly capture works properly. Esp with my crap cameras etc. It's only fair that one who is interested in purchasing sees the work as it is. Artis functioning as design in a space is important so I want to make sure the buyer knows exactly what they are getting. So for someone like you who I trust I would actually ship and let you feel it out before making a decision on something. It's only fair.



Seeing I am a minor name in a local art scene, value is lower as far as my pricing goes and rightfully so. Part of art investment is also predicting future worth of course. As my name grows as will the value of one of my works.



Cost wise currently my biggest concern is covering material costs. Paint is not cheap my time however is. Since I don't consider painting an actuall stress filled job and I find personal enjoyment out of it I am not too concerned with trying to find monetary payment for that unless it's commissioned work (as that adds stress).



Most of my works range btw 50.00- 200.00 in material. I typically then try to double that when pricing for profit. I think that is fair for the most part. Even though I have been told I could and should go no lower than taking material cost and multiply by 4 for sale price. That's from other artists etc. But they are also working with commision calculations including the middle man which is usually gallery owners. I don't deal with that middle man...yet.



I believe in art. I believe everyone should have an original piece thus I believe in selling at reasonable pricing. And the more I am exposed the better for myself aslo. So to have someone hang my work has priceless value for me and only helps my future. When I do get big then I will raise my prices to unreasonable prices....or my estate will..whcih is how it usually works.

Fair enough, only piece of original art I own is from Tibs of Jeremy Roenick, that I won. It's very cool but I don't really consider it the same kind of original art. My wife has some interesting stuff on the wall but I don't think any of it is original. I like a lot of your are and the style it's very comfortable to my senses if that makes sense, probably the colors like was mentioned before. I like the one from above, she actually is more modern type, and likes this one better. (I like it too, probably #2 or #3)...

Tell you what, do an IHN show here in chicago, bring all your stuff you can stay at my place you can trade some stuff to Phranck for tickets, I'll buy a piece and I'm sure you could probably pawn something off on bookie, or you could just bring the mule and some of her books and trade. We could make it a business trip and you could write it off, but I'm not sure how canadiens do that. Looking at those above it would seem like they are some of the larger paintings so I would imagine $200 for materials so you're looking at about $400+ for the piece. To me that's more than fair. I'm not sure I'd actually spend that much, haha. But I was expecting you to say much more than that because of basically the calculations above.. I have faith in you dying young (or the Mule taking you down earlie for fucking with her bookshelves) and the price skyrocketing, so it would be a really good investment. I think it would be really cool, i am interested, I'm just not sure of the logistics. I gotta imagine shipping internationally alone would be outrageous.



On a random side note, and don't take this the wrong way, but for some reason the girl in the painting that you posted last painting makes me think of Lindsay Lohen for some reason.



So I know you said that you do everything in acrylic. So does that mean all of these were done with acrylic paints and such? They look great, but like you said, depending on the camera and space and such it may not be right. So I appreciate the honestly cause I hadn't really thought of that. I would love to commision something like that 2 above in a blackhawks theme but I don't know if you do that. I've been slowly collecting a bunch of cool hawks, soxs, bulls, bears, cubs, ect stuff for a man cave room (right now it's all up in our spare room, but that will go away when we have kids and I'll have to get a basement or something somewhere.) and it would be cool to have a real nice original in this style to put with them. Tie the room together. But as you know I'm just rambling here as I'm not knowledgable about art so as far as I know i'm talking insanity right now.

 

[winos5]

LOL I don't mind giving out prices in public and I understand the wife thing completely.



The issue I have with selling art via the internets is sometimes photos don't exactly capture works properly. Esp with my crap cameras etc. It's only fair that one who is interested in purchasing sees the work as it is. Artis functioning as design in a space is important so I want to make sure the buyer knows exactly what they are getting. So for someone like you who I trust I would actually ship and let you feel it out before making a decision on something. It's only fair.



Seeing I am a minor name in a local art scene, value is lower as far as my pricing goes and rightfully so. Part of art investment is also predicting future worth of course. As my name grows as will the value of one of my works.



Cost wise currently my biggest concern is covering material costs. Paint is not cheap my time however is. Since I don't consider painting an actuall stress filled job and I find personal enjoyment out of it I am not too concerned with trying to find monetary payment for that unless it's commissioned work (as that adds stress).



Most of my works range btw 50.00- 200.00 in material. I typically then try to double that when pricing for profit. I think that is fair for the most part. Even though I have been told I could and should go no lower than taking material cost and multiply by 4 for sale price. That's from other artists etc. But they are also working with commision calculations including the middle man which is usually gallery owners. I don't deal with that middle man...yet.



I believe in art. I believe everyone should have an original piece thus I believe in selling at reasonable pricing. And the more I am exposed the better for myself aslo. So to have someone hang my work has priceless value for me and only helps my future. When I do get big then I will raise my prices to unreasonable prices....or my estate will..whcih is how it usually works.

Just **** up your life in someway and die an untimely death, the value of your work will soar.











































I'm not a huge fan of abstract art, particularly the stuff that looks like my 6 year old niece did for kindergarden, or just paint splatters on canvas or scribbles in nice colors, but I do appreciate your work as being more than that.

 

[winos5]

And how bout this?



http://blogs.ajc.com...-with-buttocks/

That's just performance art.

 

[LordKOTL]

I don't believe I posted anything here before, but since I got a few good shots on my Cali road trip recently...



Here are some of my photos I've taken:

Hope you all enjoy!

 

[MassHavoc]

Very nice.

 

[nana]

I would think that would be too low for tcd's work. I'm clearly not an expert, but I've seen quite a bit of art and bought a decent amount as well and I would have assumed it to be priced much higher than $400. Just my opinion... glad you have The Mule to do it for you as I'm sure it's tough to put a price on your work.

 

[the canadian dream]

It's so hard to price your own work. Or maybe it's just myself who has trouble doing so. I have seen garbage priced at amounts that just made me laugh but at the same time really frustrates me. I want to be able to sell and when really bad art goes at prices around 800.00 for nothing but a tye dye work on paper it really inflates prices. And massed produced art is also an evil on pricing.



Anyways. Another issue is the economy. Art is not a hot sale right now so in reality if I want to sell my work the prices have to come down a little. The markets not really there.



That's how I see it anyways.

 

[phranchk]

Came across this really cool documentary series on PBS, via Hulu, called Art:21. I highly recommend giving it a watch.

 

[bookjones]

Came across this really cool documentary series on PBS, via Hulu, called Art:21. I highly recommend giving it a watch.

I have been watching Art:21 (Art in the Twenty-First Century) for years now on PBS. The films/episodes are largely AWESOME and more importantly are fascinating. IMO, PBS is to be commended for both trying to tackle the most comtemporary of art as a subject and for sticking with it. Here, WTTW tends to air them in the late evening for whatever reason. I too would highly recommend them.



http://www.pbs.org/art21/films

 

[TSD]

It's so hard to price your own work. Or maybe it's just myself who has trouble doing so. I have seen garbage priced at amounts that just made me laugh but at the same time really frustrates me. I want to be able to sell and when really bad art goes at prices around 800.00 for nothing but a tye dye work on paper it really inflates prices. And massed produced art is also an evil on pricing.



Anyways. Another issue is the economy. Art is not a hot sale right now so in reality if I want to sell my work the prices have to come down a little. The markets not really there.



That's how I see it anyways.

When I was Still an Art Major we had an art show at my school, I had a pen an ink drawing of Einstein (some people were selling their stuff too) Some ass hat, had like a 5 X 5 canvas, painted it baby blue, called it sky and had a 1k price tag hanging on it. I have no idea if someone bought it or not. Thats why I get annoyed when like "anything" is art to some people. Its like they think, Im such an innovator, I did something so friggin simple its amazing. the reason no one did it before dumbass is because its not art and any union painter could do it, and probably better.





It used to annoy me, as my teachers seemed to think animation and comics were "ruining" art. So I draw a comic strip and im ruining art, this dumbass just paints a canvas a solid color and hes a genius, **** you.



It reminds me of the last conversation between Ben Afflecks character and his art teacher in Glory Daze.





I know TCD's art isnt my style, but I can tell alot of thought effort and work goes into it.

 

[phranchk]

Some pics I took in the Red Woods about 1.5 years ago. The first couple are unedited photos

This one was edited in snapseed on the iPad

 

[LordKOTL]

I like shots 2 and 4.