Art Thread

[Ymono37]

It used to annoy me, as my teachers seemed to think animation and comics were "ruining" art. So I draw a comic strip and im ruining art, this dumbass just paints a canvas a solid color and hes a genius, **** you.

I totally agree... well said, Sir.

 

[phranchk]

I like shots 2 and 4.

What lens are you using on your bird photos? I like those quite a bit.

 

[LordKOTL]

What lens are you using on your bird photos? I like those quite a bit.

This may be more info than you wanted, but I used my Nikkor AFS-G 70-300, zoomed out as much as was feasible, opened it up to about f-stop 5.6, walked back to frame the image (I was about 10 feet away from the gulls), and was using iso-200 film.

 

[the canadian dream]

Came across this really cool documentary series on PBS, via Hulu, called Art:21. I highly recommend giving it a watch.

Thanks phranchk. I just started downloading some episodes. Googled it after you mentioned it hear, watched some trailers and I am sold!!! Looks amazing.

 

[the canadian dream]

When I was Still an Art Major we had an art show at my school, I had a pen an ink drawing of Einstein (some people were selling their stuff too) Some ass hat, had like a 5 X 5 canvas, painted it baby blue, called it sky and had a 1k price tag hanging on it. I have no idea if someone bought it or not. Thats why I get annoyed when like "anything" is art to some people. Its like they think, Im such an innovator, I did something so friggin simple its amazing. the reason no one did it before dumbass is because its not art and any union painter could do it, and probably better.





It used to annoy me, as my teachers seemed to think animation and comics were "ruining" art. So I draw a comic strip and im ruining art, this dumbass just paints a canvas a solid color and hes a genius, **** you.



It reminds me of the last conversation between Ben Afflecks character and his art teacher in Glory Daze.





I know TCD's art isnt my style, but I can tell alot of thought effort and work goes into it.

Part of art production is breaking barriers and challenging the status quo in the art community and also creating conversation and questions. Impressionist painting and painters was considered rubbish at one point also. Now artists such as Monet are considered art gods.

 

[TSD]

Part of art production is breaking barriers and challenging the status quo in the art community and also creating conversation and questions. Impressionist painting and painters was considered rubbish at one point also. Now artists such as Monet are considered art gods.

But seriously, a solid color. ANYONE can replicate that. You don't even need to be an artist to color a canvas a solid color. I just think it gets ridiculous when we get to this point where "anything" is art. It removes the need for actual skill and talent.



I'm just trying to imply at what point is someone being a smartass as opposed to actually breaking a barrier. Artists and art teachers are simply beginning to get pretentious where being different is prized more than being "good".

 

[the canadian dream]

Here's the deal.



Maybe 60-70 years ago painting a canvas blue and presenting it like that would have had made it something more interesting and revolutionary. I agree TSD doing it now and trying to pull it off as something new doesn't work no matter how one tried to spin it. That is something that is so difficult in the art world right now. Trying to come up with new movements and new styles and innovations. It is why street art found such great success as it was something new...or was it?



But at the same time apparently this blue painting has you right pissed off. Maybe that was part of the intention? Too me that is too easy thus why I won't p[aint a canvas blue...oh wait...i have.

 

[bookjones]

Here's the deal.



Maybe 60-70 years ago painting a canvas blue and presenting it like that would have had made it something more interesting and revolutionary. I agree TSD doing it now and trying to pull it off as something new doesn't work no matter how one tried to spin it. That is something that is so difficult in the art world right now. Trying to come up with new movements and new styles and innovations. It is why street art found such great success as it was something new...or was it?



But at the same time apparently this blue painting has you right pissed off. Maybe that was part of the intention? Too me that is too easy thus why I won't p[aint a canvas blue...oh wait...i have.

I'd likely rather have a painting of a bullshit solid blue canvas than one of those infernal "Blue Dog" paintings! LOL

 

[the canadian dream]

I'd likely rather have a painting of a bullshit solid blue canvas than one of those infernal "Blue Dog" paintings! LOL

You can mark me down for that also. I hate the bluedogs. And there is the counter agument. What is so creative and grounbreaking about painting a dog and making it blue? It's not.

 

[bookjones]

You can mark me down for that also. I hate the bluedogs. And there is the counter agument. What is so creative and grounbreaking about painting a dog and making it blue? It's not.

But. . .but. . .but. . .they put the blue dog in different situations! D'uh. That's what makes each piece ummm, unique and creative and shit.

 

[phranchk]

Actually, painting a canvas a solid color makes for a nice accent on a wall sometimes. I certainly wouldn't think it should be worth more than the supplies it took to create. Having different sized canvases painting in different solid colors can for some interesting presentations on big wall space as well.

 

[MassHavoc]

I drew the duck blue because I've never seen a blue duck before, and to be honest with you, I wanted to see a blue duck.

But any who... what are the blue dogs? ::duck and cover::

 

[The Mule]

The blue dogs are awful but the worst art is Thomas Kinkade. And that asshole is rich, rich, rich for painting fucking Motel 6 art. Gross!!!





http://www.thomaskinkade.com/magi/servlet/com.asucon.ebiz.home.web.tk.HomeServlet



Yeah, I have the anger in me.

 

[MassHavoc]

What don't you like about him? I get the motel 6 part, but it just looks like standard fluffy pictures of memories. Almost like Rockwell or something but without the humanistic edge.

 

[phranchk]

I have no problem with Kinkade. His stuff makes me think of old persons homes. They're usually filled with his stuff. I don't personally like his style or his color choices, but at least what he does takes some serious talent.

 

[The Mule]

It's just so lifeless. It looks like paint by numbers. Rockwell had personality, there was commentary, there was style. There is zero personality in this. Technical achievement doesn't make him an artist.



Zzzzzzzzzzz.



Oh. Sorry I totally fell asleep while thinking about this.

 

[MassHavoc]

Yeah, I mean I wouldn't ever buy it, but I can see his talent?

 

[MassHavoc]

It's just so lifeless. It looks like paint by numbers. Rockwell had personality, there was commentary, there was style. There is zero personality in this. Technical achievement doesn't make him an artist.



Zzzzzzzzzzz.



Oh. Sorry I totally fell asleep while thinking about this.

I definately see what you are saying, especially regarding Rockwell as that's kind of what I was trying to imply. It does look like paint by numbers and like I said I wouldn't by it as it almost looks mechanical, but at the same time I recognize that he's got to have some serious talent to be able to do those sorts of things? I can't even do stick figures well though. I'd say that he is way more of an artist than any ****** who makes a blue canvas to sell for 1k.

 

[bookjones]

The blue dogs are awful but the worst art is Thomas Kinkade. And that asshole is rich, rich, rich for painting fucking Motel 6 art. Gross!!!





http://www.thomaskin....tk.HomeServlet



Yeah, I have the anger in me.

BINGO! If this were a TV gameshow, you'd be leaving having won the grand fucking prize (then you could also go home and make TCD your "official" indentured servant too).



Hands-down the whole Kinkade phenomenon has always completely straight-up boggled my fucking mind. When I first heard about him and what his "studios" do years ago I was all, "WTF?" Seriously? Then I busted out laughing. That's some ugly shit IMO but as with ALL art to each purveryor their own taste but I don't really like to tolerate too much high-horsing that implies only "pretentious" or po-mo poseur art buyers are the only ones who "waste" their money making some assholes rich. Falling prey (and I use "prey" for lack of a better term beccause ultimately people shouldn't feel like they were victims of jack shit if they love what they bought) to bullshit art runs across the socio-economic scale in this country. From the commericials for those weekend "art liquidation" sales in bad hotels to utter bullshit like Kinkade to bad poseur, supposed "High" art. And don't even get me started on Capidomonte "porcelain" peoples! LOL

 

[The Mule]

BINGO! If this were a TV gameshow, you'd be leaving having won the grand fucking prize (then you could also go home and make TCD your "official" indentured servant too).



Hands-down the whole Kinkade phenomenon has always completely straight-up boggled my fucking mind. When I first heard about him and what his "studios" do years ago I was all, "WTF?" Seriously? Then I busted out laughing. That's some ugly shit IMO but as with ALL art to each purveryor their own taste but I don't really like to tolerate too much high-horsing that implies only "pretentious" or po-mo poseur art buyers are the only ones who "waste" their money making some assholes rich. Falling prey (and I use "prey" for lack of a better term beccause ultimately people shouldn't feel like they were victims of jack shit if they love what they bought) to bullshit art runs across the socio-economic scale in this country. From the commericials for those weekend "art liquidation" sales in bad hotels to utter bullshit like Kinkade to bad poseur, supposed "High" art.



I am not one to judge "high" or "low" art merely by how they're identified, and yes, everyone has their own taste, which I respect. The art world is already so strange. There was the recent article by Charles Saatchi (the Guardian?) about why art dealers are actually fucking shit up by not actually caring about the art besides price, resale value and the cache that brings. He's a whole other story, but I kind of love his loud mouth attitude.



And don't even get me started on Capidomonte "porcelain" peoples! LOL

Please do get started! Raised around all those Italians I can tell you that everyone has that stuff prominently displayed. I'm having some pretty vivid flashbacks right now. Now that stuff is old people art style.