Ashton Jeanty

[MDB111™]

You only do something like this if your O/D line targets are not there in the first round.

Which they might not be IMO.

Everyone gets it. Bears need to address the lines. But you don't reach on a player just because... ahem Darnell Wright.


So if you don't want a project/maybe I'm a tackle and maybe I'm a guard type player and you don't trade back, you run to the table with the Ashton Jeanty pick.


Swift is terrible up the gut
Roschong has mush brane and wears a bubble on his head and is not the future of this team

Need Ashton Jeanty

or Omarion Hampton or Skatebo.

RB is every bit as important in this draft. Can't just fill in the void with Roshcon and Foreman type players. Need a true bellcow


someone like DAVID MONTGOMERY

 

[PrideisBears]

The team needs difference makers too. Besides MAYBE DJ Moore we have zero on this squad. I’m all for building the trenches but Poles has the team so devoid of talent if Jeanty is on the board and the BPA you get him

 

[sevvy]

Just no. Fix the oline. I don't care how good Jeanty is.

 

[bearsfan1977]

Jeanty won’t be any good getting initial contact consistently behind the LOS.

I don’t see that when watching his tape. He has elite traits in every aspect the position requires.

I’m not saying g ignore OL. What I am saying is if the top 2 DL are off the board, some may not want them to take a G with the 9th pick (or whatever pick it winds up being).

Again, my top guy is Abdul Carter, and I would like Nolen or Josh Simmons, as well. But I would completely understand a Jeanty pick if 2 spots on the OL are upgraded in FA.

 

[bears51/40]

Do you realize how many good backs will be in this draft? I’m taking Banks and Donovan Jackson with the first two picks unless Graham or Carter are there for the first pick. If that’s the case, I’m taking Jackson and the next best guard in the 2nd round.

Yes, to a big man draft.
1 Campbell.........by all accounts he is the best offensive lineman in this draft. Very athletic, but he is a guard. Bears need to fix the interior anyway.
2A.......Edge. I think a guy like Erenst Green falls into this area of the draft.
2B........DT. Tyleik Williams or Deone Walker. Gotta stop the run at some point and Billings is coming off an injury and is turning 30.
3..........C. Seth McLaugin. A steal here IF recovered from a torn Achilles.

 

[bearsfan1977]

Not dumb enough to draft a RB in the first round over a dominant DT

Carter and Graham may be gone. Nolen is the perfect 3-T but he (maybe) is there in the 2nd? Draft is stacked with DE/DL.

I don’t see how it’s moronic to take one of the best RB prospects in the last decade over a G. This is assuming of corse 2 OL spots are upgraded in FA.

 

[bearsfan1977]

Yes, to a big man draft.
1 Campbell.........by all accounts he is the best offensive lineman in this draft. Very athletic, but he is a guard. Bears need to fix the interior anyway.
2A.......Edge. I think a guy like Erenst Green falls into this area of the draft.
2B........DT. Tyleik Williams or Deone Walker. Gotta stop the run at some point and Billings is coming off an injury and is turning 30.
3..........C. Seth McLaugin. A steal here IF recovered from a torn Achilles.

I could completely get behind this path, as well.

 

[Hoodey]

Ok, before people lose their minds, bear with me.

I recognize the importance of solidifying the lines and know their current status. I was hoping they’d draft Fashanu last year, even over Rome, and I think Rome will be a good WR.

If Abdul Carter or Mason Graham is on the board, run the pick in.

I am not high on either Campbell or Banks. I think both kick inside to G and I don’t think there is that big of a drop-off between them and guys like Milum or Ersery who may be had in the 2nd.

The Bears have not had a special RB since Payton. Forte, imo, was very good. He was not transcendent. Jeanty is freakin awesome and can be a cornerstone of an offense.

Fixing the OL won’t be done in 1 offseason. If Trey Smith isn’t available, a guy like Mekhi Becton at RG next to Wright would be nasty. Draft your LG in the 2nd.

Swift is a third down back and Roschon is a backup. Jeanty would help Caleb and can settle down an offense. The threat he will pose will open up the passing game.

For me, if Carter and Graham are gone, I could see Poles taking one of Banks or Campbell even if they kick inside due to all of the noise re: the OL. And I guess that’s fine, even though I think both would be a reach. But I would understand if Jeanty is the pick. If he really does turn out to be one of the better RBs of the last decade, it would have a big impact on the offense.

Ok. Flame away on why you think that would be the worst pick of all time.

Oh, btw, I hope everyone had a happy holiday and stayed safe.

Wait till you see Jeanty tonight against Abdul carter and Penn state. This is not Oregon gelling in the OOC. If he plays like that tonight I’ll be extremely impressed

 

[playthrough2001]

I don’t see that when watching his tape. He has elite traits in every aspect the position requires.

I’m not saying g ignore OL. What I am saying is if the top 2 DL are off the board, some may not want them to take a G with the 9th pick (or whatever pick it winds up being).

Again, my top guy is Abdul Carter, and I would like Nolen or Josh Simmons, as well. But I would completely understand a Jeanty pick if 2 spots on the OL are upgraded in FA.

I love running backs. They used to be the focus on offense in the NFL and a great one can make a huge difference week to week.

However, this team needs to put premium resources into the offensive line.

Look at the time to throw that Goff has most weeks. He stands around in clean pockets almost every game. The Lions push people around in the run game too because they have made the offensive line the anchor of their team.

I played RB in HS and would have in college too but opted to play baseball instead (shortstop). Believe me, I have an affinity for the position.

I don’t think they can afford to take him.

 

[Zvbxrpl]

This fanbase just revels in its own stupidity.

Those few of us with an ounce of common sense can’t have nice things because the idiots want another shiny new toy and to half ass the OL again.

 

[msadows]

same story as the idiots who wanted bijan over a defensive/offensive lineman.

Bijan would sure look great on this team getting hit before the line of scrimmage.

 

[Szlachcic]

Just no. Fix the oline. I don't care how good Jeanty is.

NO to RB.
All starts and ends with the lines. In this draft specially, the lines are PRIORITY !

 

[bears51/40]

I don’t see that when watching his tape. He has elite traits in every aspect the position requires.

I’m not saying g ignore OL. What I am saying is if the top 2 DL are off the board, some may not want them to take a G with the 9th pick (or whatever pick it winds up being).

Again, my top guy is Abdul Carter, and I would like Nolen or Josh Simmons, as well. But I would completely understand a Jeanty pick if 2 spots on the OL are upgraded in FA.

I think Jeanty is a blue-chip player and will go in the top 10...............just not to the Bears. Bears need to fix the trenches this year before looking towards any skill positions, and they can do it this year through free agency and the draft. In my mind it has to be a big man draft with the first four picks on both sides of the ball.

 

[msadows]

NO to RB.
All starts and ends with the lines. In this draft specially, the lines are PRIORITY !

I MAY be okay with a running back in the 3rd, but any higher than that is crazy considering how bad the lines are.

If they go DE in the top 10, then double down with guards(or a guard/center) in the 2nd im fine with rb there. Achane and bucky irving prove you dont need to draft a rb high.

 

[greg23]

Not dumb enough to draft a RB in the first round over a dominant DT

Even Chase Claypool thinks Poles is dumb

 

[msadows]

Even Chase Claypool thinks Poles is dumb

Chase claypool is a wide receiver when we desperately needed one

not the same as drafting an rb in the top 15

 

[Bort]

Normally, I would say that drafting a RB at #9 overall is stupid, especially with pressing needs at other positions.

But this draft seems set up to place the Bears in an extremely unlucky position. The Bears need a LT, but they’re stuck in a draft that doesn’t have an elite LT. Interior OL will likely be less of a need at draft time because there are some good ones available in FA.

They also need a DT and EDGE, but there’s a possibility that the elite DT and EDGE prospects will also be off the board by pick 9.

If that happens, what should they do? Trading down would make the most sense, but you need a partner to do that.

Otherwise, Jeanty would probably be BPA at 9. Should you really pass up on BPA at a position of extreme need (Bears probably have the worst RB room in the entire NFL right now) due to positional value? That’s a tougher question and a closer call than I think most people realize.

 

[baselman1974]

Does he?

Pretty sure he drafted db's and signed two linebackers because its what eberflus wanted/needed to run his defense.

If they hired an offensive coach in 2022 the drafts would have been much heavier on offense.

People act like every GM doesnt do this. The HC has heavy insight into draft picks/FA signings.

Defensive line should’ve been address then. With no pass rush, what can the lbs and DBs do?

 

[RPMcMurphy47]

Jeanty looks amazing. The bears just don't have anywhere near close to the luxury needed to make this pick.

The importance of good fronts could never be more clear than this year. Impossible for the organization not to see this.

 

[bearsfan1977]

Wait till you see Jeanty tonight against Abdul carter and Penn state. This is not Oregon gelling in the OOC. If he plays like that tonight I’ll be extremely impressed

Fair point.