Ashton Jeanty

[bearsfan1977]

I understand and respect both sides of the argument as it relates to the Bears drafting Jeanty at 10. But like I said a few months ago, the moves they make in the offseason may make that pick not so crazy.

-they got Ben Johnson; I think there is sufficient evidence he does not see Swift as the type of RB he prefers in his offense given DET traded him
-they add Thuney and Jackson
-this draft has many quality interior OL that can be had in rounds 2 or 3
-I think there is a significant drop-off from Jeanty and Hampton and the rest of the RBs (I still think it is a good and deep RB class)
-10 is a bit early for Hampton, imo, and there is almost no chance he is there at 39

To me, I think the pick will be Jeanty, Campbell, Membou, or Mykel Williams.

 

[pseudonym]

I understand and respect both sides of the argument as it relates to the Bears drafting Jeanty at 10. But like I said a few months ago, the moves they make in the offseason may make that pick not so crazy.

-they got Ben Johnson; I think there is sufficient evidence he does not see Swift as the type of RB he prefers in his offense given DET traded him
-they add Thuney and Jackson
-this draft has many quality interior OL that can be had in rounds 2 or 3
-I think there is a significant drop-off from Jeanty and Hampton and the rest of the RBs (I still think it is a good and deep RB class)
-10 is a bit early for Hampton, imo, and there is almost no chance he is there at 39

To me, I think the pick will be Jeanty, Campbell, Membou, or Mykel Williams.

I'm right there with you. Agree with this, 100% , every bullet point.

 

[BearDown104]

Jeanty isn’t even a game changer, no thanks. He’s beat up on Mountain West teams.

Go watch the Super Bowl and tell me we don’t need to stack our lines up. My goodness. This RB class is deep, no way is 10 worth a RB.

Give me Graham, Membou, Carter, Campbell, Williams, Banks, hell, I’d even take Warren over Jeanty.

My preference is to trade down to like 15ish if we can and pick up a 2nd since it’s so deep where we have glaring holes.

 

[Bears4Ever_34]

Drafting Jeanty is another way of protecting the quarterback. It doesn't have to be singularly focused on lineman. Ben Johnson said this himself the day he was hired. Too many people are discounting this part of the equation when it comes to protecting Caleb. The Bears didn't have a running game at all last year. That hurt the quarterback just as much as the quality of his line. Hard to play one dimensional football.

Jeanty is far ahead of the 2nd best RB in this class, which is why I wouldn't pass on him if he's there at 10, unless they're enamored with Warren, who I believe is a top 3-4 player, along with Jeanty, in this draft class.

 

[Les Grossman]

What if Carter were to drop to #4 and the Bears traded up?

2025 NFL mock draft: Giants trade up for Cam Ward, Commanders stop the fall for Michigan CB

The Giants have to make this move to secure their quarterback of the future

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Round 1 - Pick 4



Abdul Carter EDGE
Penn State • Jr • 6'3" / 250 lbs

Projected Team​ Chicago

PROSPECT RNK​ 2nd

POSITION RNK​ 1st

The moment the Graham pick was announced for the Titans, the Bears called the Patriots and sent an offer New England couldn't refuse -- the first of Chicago's two second-round picks (No. 39) this year and a second-round pick in 2026. The Bears get a premier edge rusher to pair with Montez Sweat in Carter.

 

[Nelly]

What if Carter were to drop to #4 and the Bears traded up?

2025 NFL mock draft: Giants trade up for Cam Ward, Commanders stop the fall for Michigan CB

The Giants have to make this move to secure their quarterback of the future

www.cbssports.com

Round 1 - Pick 4


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Abdul Carter EDGE
Penn State • Jr • 6'3" / 250 lbs

Projected Team​ Chicago

PROSPECT RNK​ 2nd

POSITION RNK​ 1st

The moment the Graham pick was announced for the Titans, the Bears called the Patriots and sent an offer New England couldn't refuse -- the first of Chicago's two second-round picks (No. 39) this year and a second-round pick in 2026. The Bears get a premier edge rusher to pair with Montez Sweat in Carter.

Carter doesn't seem like a good fit for a 4-3, ideally anyway. Especially when the Bears need plenty more talent around the team, I would pass on a trade-up.

 

[Les Grossman]

Carter doesn't seem like a good fit for a 4-3, ideally anyway. Especially when the Bears need plenty more talent around the team, I would pass on a trade-up.

What? How is not a good fit for a 4-3. Is Micah Parson at 6,3" 245 pounds not a good fit for a 4-3?

(not saying the trade up is good)

 

[Nelly]

And for ****'s sake, taking Jeanty at #10 would be a disaster. Well, that's hyperbolic, I would be interested to see how it plays out, but when we've been cursed on the offensive line for so long and have only one impact player on the defensive line, drafting a running back at #10 would be like taking out a second mortgage to buy a lambo.

With Thuney/Jackson in the fold, I think that's an even stronger reason now to look to spend 2 of your first 3 picks on defense. The dream is Mason Graham falling to #10 and grabbing him, otherwise maybe you like a Mykel Williams at DE with #10, then you're in position to grab a DT and a OL with #39 and #41. Once you've got the lines settled, you can start addressing the needs behind those in both backfields (RB and S).

 

[Nelly]

What? How is not a good fit for a 4-3. Is Micah Parson at 6,3" 245 pounds not a good fit for a 4-3?

(not saying the trade up is good)

Parsons is a bit of a unicorn though. I'm not saying Carter can't/wouldn't be and it would be a different story if we didn't have to trade up.

To jump from #10 to #4 we'd be looking at possibly both 2nds or a 2nd and 3rd, maybe more considering other teams would likely be wanting to grab Carter as well. That's not worth it, not even close. All I'm saying is that if we were getting a guy who figured to be the next Aidan Hutchinson or Myles Garrett, i.e. prototypical dominant 4-3 DE, I would be slightly more amicable to the idea.

 

[Les Grossman]

Parsons is a bit of a unicorn though. I'm not saying Carter can't/wouldn't be and it would be a different story if we didn't have to trade up.

To jump from #10 to #4 we'd be looking at possibly both 2nds or a 2nd and 3rd, maybe more considering other teams would likely be wanting to grab Carter as well. That's not worth it, not even close. All I'm saying is that if we were getting a guy who figured to be the next Aidan Hutchinson or Myles Garrett, i.e. prototypical dominant 4-3 DE, I would be slightly more amicable to the idea.

I see where you are coming from, but I see Carter as a definite fit for either a 3-4 or 4-3. Dude is a monster.

I think people should get over the idea that "prototypical" is a player like Myles Garret, who is as much a unicorn as Parsons at 271 pounds. Plus, we already have that bigger DE in Sweat. Speed and bend is what we need at the other EDGE spot.

 

[bearsfan1977]

Drafting Jeanty is another way of protecting the quarterback. It doesn't have to be singularly focused on lineman. Ben Johnson said this himself the day he was hired. Too many people are discounting this part of the equation when it comes to protecting Caleb. The Bears didn't have a running game at all last year. That hurt the quarterback just as much as the quality of his line. Hard to play one dimensional football.

Jeanty is far ahead of the 2nd best RB in this class, which is why I wouldn't pass on him if he's there at 10, unless they're enamored with Warren, who I believe is a top 3-4 player, along with Jeanty, in this draft class.

The Bears really haven’t had a decent running game led by RBs for many years now. Justin Field's’ running ability masked how poor the RB room has been for quite some time.

Having a legitimate threat at the RB spot also takes a lot of pressure off of the QB, as does a good OL.

 

[bearsfan1977]

And for ****'s sake, taking Jeanty at #10 would be a disaster. Well, that's hyperbolic, I would be interested to see how it plays out, but when we've been cursed on the offensive line for so long and have only one impact player on the defensive line, drafting a running back at #10 would be like taking out a second mortgage to buy a lambo.

With Thuney/Jackson in the fold, I think that's an even stronger reason now to look to spend 2 of your first 3 picks on defense. The dream is Mason Graham falling to #10 and grabbing him, otherwise maybe you like a Mykel Williams at DE with #10, then you're in position to grab a DT and a OL with #39 and #41. Once you've got the lines settled, you can start addressing the needs behind those in both backfields (RB and S).

I am probably (definitely) in the minority on this, but I have a feeling Kenneth Grant will have a better pro career than Graham. Guys that big aren’t supposed to be as quick and athletic as he looks on the field. I also think Nolen will end up being a better pro than Graham.

 

[modo]

Jeanty is a well rounded player. Defenses will have to account for him because he can make someone miss and has the ability to break tackles. He can also hit 22+ MPH. And can catch.

He is going to be productive in the NFL and make some big plays...

 

[Leon Sandcastle]

Jeanty is a well rounded player. Defenses will have to account for him because he can make someone miss and has the ability to break tackles. He can also hit 22+ MPH. And can catch.

He is going to be productive in the NFL and make some big plays...

Jeanty is an absolute stud. People say it was the competition which is partly true, but he is still by far the best rb in this draft imo

 

[Xplosive]

Jeanty is an absolute stud. People say it was the competition which is partly true, but he is still by far the best rb in this draft imo

By far the best???... how are you coming to that conclusion when you look at the mid major competition he faced regularly and inflated numbers that are the result of having nearly 100 or more carries than almost every other RB?

 

[Wild_x_Card]

I remember vividly people brushing off Barry Sanders and Thurman Thomas simply because they played in the big 12. Yes, their numbers were inflated at OK st because of the defenses they faced. Add to that the clown crew that thought Barry could never make his running style work at the next level.

You still have to scout the player on their own merit. Inflated numbers be damned. Jeanty only did what he was supposed to do. Dominate lesser competition. That shouldn't be a knock and it certainly isn't in the scouting community. Matt Forte and Chris Johnson did very well for themselves at the next level after beating up on future accountants and teachers in college.

 

[pseudonym]

I'm going to trust Ben with whoever they take at #10. I'd like to see Dalman snagged in FA and maybe Josh Sweat, and then I'd feel even better about taking Jeanty at #10 and then something like Zabel or either Jackson (OL/DE) with our two 2nd round picks.

 

[Xplosive]

I remember vividly people brushing off Barry Sanders and Thurman Thomas simply because they played in the big 12. Yes, their numbers were inflated at OK st because of the defenses they faced. Add to that the clown crew that thought Barry could never make his running style work at the next level.

You still have to scout the player on their own merit. Inflated numbers be damned. Jeanty only did what he was supposed to do. Dominate lesser competition. That shouldn't be a knock and it certainly isn't in the scouting community. Matt Forte and Chris Johnson did very well for themselves at the next level after beating up on future accountants and teachers in college.

Until we have his speed, and power numbers, all we have to go on is him stat stuffing against teams like Air Force, Hawaii, Fresno St., San Diego St, Utah State,... etcetera.

That's a long way from the Big 12.

 

[dabears70]

I understand and respect both sides of the argument as it relates to the Bears drafting Jeanty at 10. But like I said a few months ago, the moves they make in the offseason may make that pick not so crazy.

-they got Ben Johnson; I think there is sufficient evidence he does not see Swift as the type of RB he prefers in his offense given DET traded him
-they add Thuney and Jackson
-this draft has many quality interior OL that can be had in rounds 2 or 3
-I think there is a significant drop-off from Jeanty and Hampton and the rest of the RBs (I still think it is a good and deep RB class)
-10 is a bit early for Hampton, imo, and there is almost no chance he is there at 39

To me, I think the pick will be Jeanty, Campbell, Membou, or Mykel Williams.

I wonder what the Jeanty people will think when it's time to pay Jeanty in 4 years?!

 

[Wild_x_Card]

Until we have his speed, and power numbers, all we have to go on is him stat stuffing against teams like Air Force, Hawaii, Fresno St., San Diego St, Utah State,... etcetera.

That's a long way from the Big 12.

His long speed is all over his tape as is his contact balance and stiff arm. His speed and strength are not an issue. I have know idea how he'll hand time but if he were crossing the laser he very much looks like a 4.42-4.38 player from what I've seen.

Big 12 defenses in those days were comically bad.