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I'm getting much closer to being all in on Jeanty at #10. The more I watch highlights of some of these other RB's, the less impressed I become. People say this is a deep RB class, but I don't see a whole lot of standout traits from most of the top guys, minus Jeanty and maybe the kid from TEN (Sampson). Mostly, I see a lot of average lateral quickness, acceleration, and foot speed, which makes me think NFL backup/low-end starter.

If we're going to draft a RB, I want to draft somebody with an elite skill. Jeanty looks to have above average speed, vision, and agility, but elite contact balance. He does remind you a lot of Ladanian Tomlinson because of his size and ability to break tackles.

As long as they sign 2-3 sure-fire starters in free agency on that offensive line, namely Trey Smith, I'm totally cool with them going RB in RD1. This doesn't seem like a particularly good year for OL/DL at the top of the draft, so I don't know that they would be passing on much if they elected to go RB.

Agree, it would actually be a mistake to pass on Jeanty at ten, we can all settle down because it's doubtful he even makes it there if he runs at the combine, and as much as I love him and the idea for BJ's offense, I can't condone trading up when Poles has dealt with a massive shortage in pick quantity.
 

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I am too. I think he will test well. But things like vision and contact balance are traits people have or they don’t, regardless of competition. He displayed those things consistently. And like we saw in the PSU game, he constantly bounces off the first and second tackles, but it’s hard for anyone to break away from the 3rd or 4th, especially when the entire defensive front is keying on him and is not worried at all about the QB, WRs, or TEs.
I'm expecting him to grade out really good at anything to do with running the football at the combine, the thing i'll be interested about with him at the combine is every skill that has to do with receiving as he only had 138 yds receiving last year.
 

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Why would you assume that? They gave swift like 8 million a year and got a bunch of bargain bin guys to block for him. Freaking guys like Pryor and Shelton.

it’s also funny how you guys constantly just assume if you spend a second round pick on a guy he automatically fills the hole. As if there’s no chance they might not be ready. Or they might just suck.
Moot point as Jeanty not going to bears. So do you not draft oline in second round for those reasons? lol. Might as well not draft anybody in any round because they might not be ready or they might suck.
 

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You’ve never said you’d be ok with Campbell or Banks at 10? Because, using your words, a whole lot of people have been advocating ‘dumb shit’ like taking Campbell or Banks.

And no shit, BPA isn’t the only factor. It is a factor combined with other factors like positional need. But that is an informed assumption on my part, because unlike you after reading what every GM thinks, I have never worked in a FO and have had conversations about this with other GMs. Please enlighten us as to what they said.

Out of curiosity, who do you hope they pick at 10?

It’s so early in the process that to pretend you know for sure that these guys are guards only is ridiculous. Every year there are guys who somebody claims has short arms or whatever and projects as a guard who end up being tackles. Both these guys could easily end up being tackles.

There are also scenarios where they could draft a guy like Simmons at 10, play him at G as a rookie and move him to tackle if/when Jones leaves.

The OL and DL suck so bad. I kind of think thr DL is actually in worse shape than the offensive line. People are so caught up on offense though that they focus on that. When they lost Billings they couldn’t stop the run at all. They couldnt get pressure on the QB.

They need to put a ton of resources into the OL and DL. To even be thinking about a RB is absurd. I don’t even like the idea of spending a 2nd round pick on RB with all the holes on both lines. I can’t even imagine contemplating spending the 10th freaking pick with one.
 

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Moot point as Jeanty not going to bears. So do you not draft oline in second round for those reasons? lol. Might as well not draft anybody in any round because they might not be ready or they might suck.

I didn’t say don’t take a guard, I said acknowledge that simply drafting a guy doesn’t mean you’re guaranteed anything. You need as many swings as possible to fill the gaping holes on the OL and DL. Which makes using such a valuable resource in the 10th pick on a RB stupid. They need OL and DL desperately and all these fools can think about is Ashton Jeanty. Get your freaking priorities straight. RB should be like the 10th thing on this team Bears fans should be worried about. Did you actually watch the damn games? Without Billings they couldn’t stop the run at all. They were repeatedly gashed game after game. Their Backup tackles and guards were almost terrible across the board. The starters are middle of the pack. I’m sorry, but I don’t give a shit about Ashton Jeanty right now. And neither should any of you. But it’s RB. So obviously the most generic ass fans are going to salivate over whoever the name is that year.
 
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Also, Jordan Addison looks like an ELF from lord of the rings compared to caleb

This kinda puts in perspective how big caleb actually is. Jayden daniels is a fuckin twig twink
 

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It’s so early in the process that to pretend you know for sure that these guys are guards only is ridiculous. Every year there are guys who somebody claims has short arms or whatever and projects as a guard who end up being tackles. Both these guys could easily end up being tackles.

There are also scenarios where they could draft a guy like Simmons at 10, play him at G as a rookie and move him to tackle if/when Jones leaves.

The OL and DL suck so bad. I kind of think thr DL is actually in worse shape than the offensive line. People are so caught up on offense though that they focus on that. When they lost Billings they couldn’t stop the run at all. They couldnt get pressure on the QB.

They need to put a ton of resources into the OL and DL. To even be thinking about a RB is absurd. I don’t even like the idea of spending a 2nd round pick on RB with all the holes on both lines. I can’t even imagine contemplating spending the 10th freaking pick with one.
I’d be completely fine with Simmons at 10. Much more ok with that pick than Campbell or Banks, as I think he’s the best pure LT in the draft. Only issue with him is the injury.
 

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I’d be completely fine with Simmons at 10. Much more ok with that pick than Campbell or Banks, as I think he’s the best pure LT in the draft. Only issue with him is the injury.
Simmons definitely the best pure LT in draft but i think Campbell will be able to play LT as well.
 

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I was completely against drafting this kid but I guess we have to see what happens in free agency. If they were to sign Smith in free agency as well as acquiring a pass rusher outside of the draft then maybe in that circumstance. Then you use the two seconds on the offensive line. You only do this is if you are 1000% certain Jeanty is a can’t miss stud
 

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Wouldn’t he be the “not really fast, not really shifty” type?

Do we want a guy because he can break tackles against Maryland and Rutgers?

Do we really want a guy because he can break tackles against Utah State and Georgia Southern?
 

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Neal was special for his time and usage back then, every bit as good as Matt Forte. If you mean top 5 in the NFL every year probowl level, well those are rare and I wouldn’t bet on Jeanty and his very average size/speed/power attributes to be special in the NFL unless the Bears have some probowlers on the OLine in front of him.
Neal didn’t compile a high career yardage total but he was also drafted while Payton was still on the team
 

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