Bears Can't Overcome Flus, Waldron & Commanders: Your Top Takeaways

Canth

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I felt the defense got lucky to only give up the FG's ahead of the obvious hail mary at the end. They gave up 2 TD's that got called back by penalties. Too many times, especially early, they could not get off the field as well. The defense did buckle down in the 2nd half until the unfortunate ending.

And then on offense, Waldron was just bad. No easy, rhythm passes to get any flow going early. I get the impression they did some self scouting and had all the wrong takeaways from their evaluation and they got away from what was working in the previous 3 games.

Caleb definitely struggled and then had a fairly clutch 4th quarter. So, encouraging that he stayed with it but he needs to be better throughout the games. I think he held the ball too long several times. He needs to get back to being more decisive and making those quick intermediate throws that he is so good at. Too much running today by the QB and Caleb was taking too many hits. They cannot keep doing that.

The OL was often a mess throughout the game and obviously that also affects things. Poles has got to make some serious investments in the OL and in the interior in particular this offseason. Arguably, they need at least 3 and ideally 4 new starters. I think only Wright at RT is safe and that is as much because it's unrealistic to think you can replace the entire starting OL in a single offseason. If Jones is out for extended time, do they go Borom at LT or the rookie?
 

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Caleb can't carry the team and Ebflus & Waldron lose their minds in key situations.

Caleb air mailing a zero yard pass to Keenan Allen was absurd. If he didn't have the rep, he'd have been called for multiple grounding penalties. He had no pocket presence and was CLEARLY outplayed by Daniels.

I don't know what exactly happened, perhaps Jaylon Johnson wanted to play hero ball and snag an INT with 5 seconds left, but the Bears defense simply allowed the Redskins to get into hail mary range. What on earth was that?

The goal line call at the end I assume was on Waldron, but regardless it was a joke. As was the 1st and goal pass attempt by Williams. Why is this so difficult?
 

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I don’t mind the handoff to Kramer. I’ve been actually calling for that play. However, it was clear they hadn’t practiced it due to the handoff being far too shallow with all of Caleb’s momentum going backwards. In addition, that play isn’t something you run in that situation at the goal line and game on the line. You call that play somewhere in the 1st half or when you’re up already. It’s designed to add a wrinkle for defenses to think about not for you to win a game with.

Not sure how Waldron thought that play made any sense there. Just poor game management and situational awareness.
Yep....not the time to make that call

Run it so it's on tape in a different situation....early in game/already ahead etc
 

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Caleb can't carry the team and Ebflus & Waldron lose their minds in key situations.

Caleb air mailing a zero yard pass to Keenan Allen was absurd. If he didn't have the rep, he'd have been called for multiple grounding penalties. He had no pocket presence and was CLEARLY outplayed by Daniels.

I don't know what exactly happened, perhaps Jaylon Johnson wanted to play hero ball and snag an INT with 5 seconds left, but the Bears defense simply allowed the Redskins to get into hail mary range. What on earth was that?

The goal line call at the end I assume was on Waldron, but regardless it was a joke. As was the 1st and goal pass attempt by Williams. Why is this so difficult?
The 1st and goal pass at the end was awful

Run it....if you score fine...if you don't you control the clock with all your timeouts and can dictate the end of the game.
 

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The defense was phenomenal, and a banged up defense.
Redskins leading the NFL with 31 ppg had 12 until the very lucky play. The Bears are so fortunate to have a defense like that to keep is in a game where the offense is middle school level.

Complaining about Everflus is just silly. Maybe he and Poles made a poor decision with the OC, and I'm not anywhere near certain of that either.
 

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The 1st and goal pass at the end was awful

Run it....if you score fine...if you don't you control the clock with all your timeouts and can dictate the end of the game.

I agree with that.
 

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Yeah, this. Thanks for typing all of that up for me. Check is in the mail.

It seems absurd that a defensive coach that actually has put together a competitive D is such a pussy. With an OL that would fail to block a college DL, this game came down to a stupid call at the goal line and a hail mary.

Edit - bring Bill Belichick out of retirement to coach this team and we have a ring in 2026.

Not unless he brings Brady with him....he's never won shit with out him.
 

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The defense was phenomenal, and a banged up defense.
Redskins leading the NFL with 31 ppg had 12 until the very lucky play. The Bears are so fortunate to have a defense like that to keep is in a game where the offense is middle school level.

Complaining about Everflus is just silly. Maybe he and Poles made a poor decision with the OC, and I'm not anywhere near certain of that either.
The Redskins had multiple TDs called back by the officials. JMPO, but it was kind of like other games where the Bears are somehow in it despite themselves. I really do blame Eberflus for the defense with 5 seconds left that let Washington get into hail mary range. That was absurd.
 

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With zero exaggeration, the decision to hand off to an offensive lineman at the goal line might be one of the all time worst offensive play calls. This is the National Football League and you're giving the ball to a player who plays a different position and doesn't have a single offensive touch since at least high school.

That's something you maybe call if you're up by three scores and you have some leeway in the game flow if it doesn't work out. Not when you're down 5 with 6min to go.
 

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He makes sense. It doesn't really apply in here, though. Most people in here think the Bears are a good team. They are not. They are competitive but at best they may have an outside chance to make the playoffs. That's it. They are improved but this is not a Super Bowl team. A lot people in here think they are.
 

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He makes sense. It doesn't really apply in here, though. Most people in here think the Bears are a good team. They are not. They are competitive but at best they may have an outside chance to make the playoffs. That's it. They are improved but this is not a Super Bowl team. A lot people in here think they are.
No. I don't think people here think that at all. People here are tired of seeing these types of stupid losses under a HC with a 3-17 away record and 1 win vs a team over 500.

I don't think wanting to see growth after 3 years is asking for too much. That ending sequence is exactly what we've come to expect from this organization because they continue to hire inept head coaches
 

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Going back to Waldron and his personnel usage issues. How the **** is Kmet only targeted once in a game like this? Now, maybe some of it was OL breakdowns or Caleb just missing him, certainly plausible. But even with that, I still say how the **** is Kmet only given 1 target when he has shown to be one of your best weapons the past couple of years.
 

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Poles built this team from the outside in and that decision is killing us right now. Next year the draft obviously needs to prioritize OL. We're a young team and we're learning how to win but given our division, the playoffs are out of reach this year. Don't trade the picks away before the trade deadline. Use them to get some young talent on the OL and an edge in the next draft.

Caleb has no shot at becoming a top tier QB if we don't build a solid OL.
 

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Hire Ben Johnson as HC in the offseason. Fire Waldron and let Johnson bring in a guy as OC.

Hire a good DC (Flus won’t take a demotion, but if he did, he can take the DC role).

Draft OL with at least the first 2 of 3 first draft picks.
 

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