Bears hiring Shane Waldron as OC

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I think Poles wanted a McVay disciple is because technically Getsy is one too. Matt Lafluer is a McVay disciple. All things point to Fields staying because concepts and verbiage won't be a dramatic change.
If they hired Greg Roman then yes, all things would point to Fields staying.

This hire leaves the same amount of question marks about the QB position that were there when the season ended.

Fields fanatics: "Waldron fixed Geno Smith so Fields is 110% coming back!!"

Just flat out ignoring the fact that Waldron's expertise is almost exclusively working with pocket QBs in a West Coast system that relies heavily on the QB getting the ball out quick, with anticipation and timing, none of which are Fields strengths by any stretch of the imagination.

But hey, Waldron fixed Geno so it's a clear sign he was hired to fix Fields.
 

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He does have connections to Caleb though
True but it's the NFL version of 6 degrees of separation. I don't think this hire tells us about what Poles will do at QB one way or the other where I think a hire like Kubiak may have us leaning towards a QB change, just like a Roman hire would have us suspecting that Poles is keeping Fields.
 

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If they hired Greg Roman then yes, all things would point to Fields staying.

This hire leaves the same amount of question marks about the QB position that were there when the season ended.

Fields fanatics: "Waldron fixed Geno Smith so Fields is 110% coming back!!"

Just flat out ignoring the fact that Waldron's expertise is almost exclusively working with pocket QBs in a West Coast system that relies heavily on the QB getting the ball out quick, with anticipation and timing, none of which are Fields strengths by any stretch of the imagination.

But hey, Waldron fixed Geno so it's a clear sign he was hired to fix Fields.

Not disagreeing with you, but fields was a pocket passer his entire life prior to joining the bears. Ryan Day is a disciple of Chip Kelly.

He only started running because the offense sucked too much to do anything else. If he showed this type of explosive running ability on tape he would have been taken by san fran instead of trey lance.
 

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I think they should still hire Klint Kubiak as an assistant OC. Would be great to have both Waldron and Kubiak planing and creating together.
 

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Supposedly the guy that revitalized geno Smith is the oc in Tampa that just revitalized baker Mayfield. He was the Seattle qb coach last year. Supposedly why geno regressed this season
Check Geno's #s. He was a little worse this year but it's normal fluctuation type of change. his rating dropped from 100 to 92 and he would have still projected for well over 4000 yards if he played all year. Geno had already been with Canales for 3 years. I doubt he forget all that last year but a different QB coach could have had him less well prepared for games. Baker also had a similar year in Cleveland. Basically, you may be on to something but you may not because it's impossible to tell what is causation or coincidence.
 

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Not disagreeing with you, but fields was a pocket passer his entire life prior to joining the bears. Ryan Day is a disciple of Chip Kelly.

He only started running because the offense sucked too much to do anything else. If he showed this type of explosive running ability on tape he would have been taken by san fran instead of trey lance.
Yet his biggest struggles in the NFL so far have been when he's asked to play from the pocket, especially when asked to get the ball out quickly.
 

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If you’re interested in hearing.
I am halve way through and this guy sounds like a complete geno Stan ala a fields Stan here.

Blames the offensive woes on play calling. He said 70% of geno’s amazing turn around is because of genos confidence, 20% because of Pete Carroll and how he’s an excellent motivator, and Waldron and the receiving group and OL all split the last 10%

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
 

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Those are nice play designs using the same heavy alignment but 2 completely different plays.
If I remember right, that is supposed to be one of the hallmarks of a McVay offense - the ability to run multiple plays out of the same formation and player groupings to keep defenses guessing.

Which varies from the Nagy hallmark of killing all momentum in a drive to get a particular player grouping in an obvious formation so everyone knows exactly what's coming...
 

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I’ve seen three press conferences of Waldron, and he mentioned in those press conferences, “Pete’s philosophy”. I really think Pete held Waldron back with him wanting the offense to roll his way.

Then I read this first comment on this YouTube video (image below). I’m really hoping that was the case and Waldron has more innovative ideas that he would want to implement.

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