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The Bears made the playoffs in 2020, and the Eagles, who were 0-6 against playoff teams this year, made it.

Lots of mediocre teams can make the playoffs with a favorable schedule and a couple bounces.
 

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A Smart GM and HC combo can maximize the offensive side of the ball even with the limitations next year and have the Bears in the playoffs.

Won't go far with the defense still broken, but still, it would be seen as tremendous progress.
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The operation and structure of the front office is a major deterrent for future GMs/HCs.

The Bears are a mess in the office.
 

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I tend to think that the defense would be the easier/cheaper "fix". The Bears pass rush is very good and JJ/Quan are plus players behind that. The Bears could be a very good defense with just adding a couple of low cost vet secondary players and maybe a NT.

For offense, there really needs to be a complete WR overhaul, then probably a good center and pass catch TE and hope like hell Fields/Borom/Jenkins/Kmet all develop or there will be even more holes. Mooney is a very good #2 and Monty is a good, not great RB, but there would need to be a lot going right to get the offense to be playoff ready.
 

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Shit meatball take.


The McCaskeys are no weirder than the Glaziers or Davis, no more out of touch than the Maras, no more angry and odd than Irsay or Kraft or Jones - most of the owners are a werid group with their own strange and off-putting quirks.

It's a special kind of stupid to think the McCaskeys have cornered the market on that....
I touched a nerve. Are you massaging George and Teddy's old balls or something?

Group 1---well run organizations
Glazier--two titles this century
Mara--two titles this century
Irsay--1 title this century
Kraft--6 titles this century

Group 2---dysfunctional organizations
Davis--record speaks for itself
Jones---record speaks for itself


Now, which group does McCaskey fall into?

I'll wait because you may be a special kind of stupid.
 

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I touched a nerve. Are you massaging George and Teddy's old balls or something?

Group 1---well run organizations
Glazier--two titles this century
Mara--two titles this century
Irsay--1 title this century
Kraft--6 titles this century

Group 2---dysfunctional organizations
Davis--record speaks for itself
Jones---record speaks for itself


Now, which group does McCaskey fall into?

I'll wait because you may be a special kind of stupid.

Only thing you're touching is yourself....
 

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Trade Justin ?. Nice finding an NFC North coach for that little tidbit.

The rankings were put together by 5 executives and 5 coaches.

Denver Broncos
Minnesota Vikings
Las Vegas Raiders
Chicago Bears
Miami Dolphins
NY Giants
Jacksonville Jaguars
Houston Texans

“The Bears changed their structure so the next GM will report directly to ownership instead of through team president Ted Phillips, but one exec suggested there are zero guarantees the situation would function that way practically. Another called Chicago’s ownership “low-end neutral” while noting that the Bears “are just kind of there” and distanced from their tradition.

“From a roster construction standpoint, Chicago is a very desirable location if you ask me, including the fact that you could possibly trade (Justin) Fields,” said a coach who analyzed the Bears’ roster but did not vote in this poll.”

Denver needs a QB. If not in FA they better hope they can draft one in the future. They are in the too good of a team to draft early category.

Raiders should be #1 unless Giants / Broncos trade for Wilson and build around that. Those are IFs though.

Trade Justin? ?

I didn't read through the thread, but the Dallas Cowboys might fire their coach, if so, that would push the Bears down to #5 in this commentators rankings. Dallas has a load of talent all over the field, but just couldn't seem to get it together. No telling what Jerry decides to do.
 

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I didn't read through the thread, but the Dallas Cowboys might fire their coach, if so, that would push the Bears down to #5 in this commentators rankings. Dallas has a load of talent all over the field, but just couldn't seem to get it together. No telling what Jerry decides to do.
Probably elevates Moore. Rumors were he does not want to lose “Sean Payton again”
 

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The other issue I have with that "list", the Teams above the Bears have mediocre to shit QB situations. I would rather coach up a Fields than be mired with a Cousins or, who does Denver have again? Tua at Maimi? Giants have zero at QB... Jacksonville is intrigue.
 

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I think the Broncos are going to learn, just like the Bears did, that Fangio is responsible for identifying and utilizing the talent on defense. Add in the fact that Fangio essentially saved a terrible roster and completely overhauled the team in spite of Elway messing everything. Then they fire him when he is supposedly a QB away...something the GM chose to overlook. Its complete BS. Then you have to compete with Mahomes and Herbert for the next decade just to win your division...sheesh. You are set up for failure.

And while the Broncos GM thinks there are franchise QBs available every year, he is going to learn the hard way that QBs make or break you in this league. So pass over QB and stick around with guys like Drew Lock and Bridgewater and you won't last long in the NFL. If they are putting all their chips in for Rodgers, they are only setting up high expectations that will need to be filled by someone else once Rodgers inevitably decides to stay in GB.
 

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And why the F*** are the Vikings unanimously seen as a better job than the Chicago Bears? Are you effing kidding me? We consistently play better than them despite our dysfunctional offense the last few years. They have Justin Jefferson and Dalvin Cook. Cool. I'm unimpressed with the overall roster. They hit their ceiling this last decade.
 

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Goober it all depends on what the new GM and HC do.

There is plenty of cap and roster flexibility going forward if they so choose to utilize it.

Denver and LV are much more put together rosters, but anyone with a brane knows those teams don't have the potential to win shit in the next couple years unless rodgers somehow goes there.

A couple years is all you need in the nfl for a team to go from shit to good....or from good to shit. It's the beauty of the NFL, and the best example of the damage in your brane. You think in the moment, no GM or HC does that when looking for a new job because most teams they take on are not good.
Nobody does it without draft capital and cap space however, and the Bears have neither. Toss in the fact the possibly two of the best players on the Bears roster will be over-the-hill in a year or two (and need to be replaced) and your faced with a ho-hum roster without any resources to change it.

Add to that fact that the Bears seem to have gotten themselves into this mind numbingly stupid habit of drafting a QB, then the next year getting a new HC and GM (Pace and Nagy should have been gone last year).

Has everyone forgotten about Wilson and Watson possibly being available next year? I could see Denver taking a flyer on Jimmy G as well.
 

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The Bears made the playoffs in 2020, and the Eagles, who were 0-6 against playoff teams this year, made it.

Lots of mediocre teams can make the playoffs with a favorable schedule and a couple bounces.
That doesn't make you contenders, not in my book anyways. Nobody thought the Steelers/Raiders/Eagles had a realistic shot of making it to the superbowl. A contender should be identified as a team capable of winning the conference.
 

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Nobody does it without draft capital and cap space however, and the Bears have neither. Toss in the fact the possibly two of the best players on the Bears roster will be over-the-hill in a year or two (and need to be replaced) and your faced with a ho-hum roster without any resources to change it.

Add to that fact that the Bears seem to have gotten themselves into this mind numbingly stupid habit of drafting a QB, then the next year getting a new HC and GM (Pace and Nagy should have been gone last year).

Has everyone forgotten about Wilson and Watson possibly being available next year? I could see Denver taking a flyer on Jimmy G as well.

Jimmy G isn't good enough. He's borderline, but just lacks enough accuracy...
 

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Jimmy G isn't good enough. He's borderline, but just lacks enough accuracy...
Good enough for what? He has more proven talent than Fields does at this point. He is most definitely an upgrade over anything the Bronco's have had.

A Jimmy G lead Bronco's team is much better than anything the Bears will put on the field next year. This thread is about the best opening for a new HC, isn't it?
 

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That doesn't make you contenders, not in my book anyways. Nobody thought the Steelers/Raiders/Eagles had a realistic shot of making it to the superbowl. A contender should be identified as a team capable of winning the conference.
Imagine the Bears winning the division more than twice a decade...lol.
 

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The Cowboys, Raiders, 49ers, Eagles and Steelers all made the playoffs - and none of them were a serious threat to the real contenders.

The Bears could absolutely be in that grouping next year.
Mack finally got a half a year off after nursing foot/ankle injuries for 3 years it seems. You've obviously got Quinn coming off a spectacular year. If both those guys are healthy and locked in along with Roquan in the middle, you've got the foundation of a defense that can be alright. Manage to find another capable corner and a couple guys who can hold down the middle of the D line and you've got a unit you might be rely on from time to time.

On offense, use Fields to his strengths, bring back Montgomery and shore up the O line and you should be able to at least do fairly well in TOP with the run game and maybe be something more than terrible. Again, schedule falls your way along with a couple bounces and maybe you squeek in with 9-8. That's probably the Bears' ceiling though. Unlikely but possible.
 

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Good enough for what? He has more proven talent than Fields does at this point. He is most definitely an upgrade over anything the Bronco's have had.

A Jimmy G lead Bronco's team is much better than anything the Bears will put on the field next year. This thread is about the best opening for a new HC, isn't it?

Not good enough to win a Superbowl. Sure he's an upgrade to what the Broncos had. But he's still not a good enough QB to take them to the promised land. What he's proven in relation to Fields is immaterial. Jimmy G isn't good enough. He's just slightly above Dak Prescott level.
 

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