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Wholeheartedly disagree. The problem with this is he's talking about position groups.

Khalil Mack is better than any of their edge rushers.

There's not a single player on their dline that is better than a reciprocal player on ours. Our interior LBs are better.

You could make an argument that our WRs as a position group are better than GBs.

I think Biggs is just making a steaming hot pile click bait take.

Certainly not click bait. Disagree if you want but many (probably most) won’t.
 

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Zadarius Smith has more sacks, pressures, and double teams then Mack, both of the last two seasons.

Kenny Clark is better then anyone on your D line. Clark is the best NT in the league.

That argument would fail, Davante > Robinsons and Lazard/Scantling > Mooney/Wims
The best NT in the league is Eddie Goldman, bud.

Scantling wouldn't make the Bears roster. Lazard would take Wims spot. You're confusing Aaron Rodgers' talent for your WRs.

Of course you think Zadarius Smith is better than Mack.
 

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Our entire O is better at every single position with ease lol. That you think your RBs even approach ours is a joke lol.

Our pass rushers are better too.

*yawn* Your great Oline makes your RBs not the other way around.

As for the pass rushers - nah. Z.Smith is good, no doubt...P.Smith has struggled for most of the season. But I di group them as an entire LB unit and your interior linebackers may be the worst in the league. Of that there is no doubt.
 

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I’d be happy to have their DC, Pettine, as well!

I’d be happy to have their DC, Pettine, as well! Wonder what he’d do with our D personnel?
Just wait until they collapse against another good rushing team. It will happen. GB fans hated Pettine for most of the season until the last month or so.
 

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The best NT in the league is Eddie Goldman, bud.

Scantling wouldn't make the Bears roster. Lazard would take Wims spot. You're confusing Aaron Rodgers' talent for your WRs.

Of course you think Zadarius Smith is better than Mack.

Scantling has more yards and TDs than Mooney.

Lazard only played 1/4th of the season, and even he has just 200 less yards and 1 TD less then Mooney.

We have RBs better at receiving then Wims lol. He would have no chance cmof making GB's roster. Mooney would be our 4th WR.

Yes, Zadarius had more sacks, pressures, and double teams then Mack each of the last two seasons, thus making his being better undeniable, thank you.
 

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LOL. Take your homer glasses off. It’s a legit question which is why I posted.
My homer glasses are off. It's not a legit question. Asking a dumb question doesn't make it a realistic question. There's a reason it came from Biggs
 

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*yawn* Your great Oline makes your RBs not the other way around.

As for the pass rushers - nah. Z.Smith is good, no doubt...P.Smith has struggled for most of the season. But I di group them as an entire LB unit and your interior linebackers may be the worst in the league. Of that there is no doubt.

Just a bad excuse, are O line is solid enough, but Jones was running for a 5.5 ypc with Brett Hundley at QB back in the 2017 and 2018 seasons when our O line was awful at run blocking. Your RBs are just mediocre is all, whereas ours are the best overall group in fbe league according to the numbers.

Our pass rushers (OLBs) are undeniably better then yours, Zadarius is better at everything then Mack, and Gary AND Preston Smith both have more sacks then Quinn this season.

Our interior linebackers haven't even been bad lol. You just dont recognize their names lol, undrafted Krys Barnes and 5th round pick Kamal Martin are having very solid season. Kirksey was a huge liability the first half of the season, but he is on the bench now.

The only positions in football that the Bears are better at is ILB where the Packers are solid but the Bears are very good, and probably corner as well, where both are very good.
 

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My homer glasses are off. It's not a legit question. Asking a dumb question doesn't make it a realistic question. There's a reason it came from Biggs

Packers have 7 pro bowlers
Bears have 2 pro bowlers.

Packers twice stomped the Bears head to head.

They’re just better top to bottom.
 

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Packers have 7 pro bowlers
Bears have 2 pro bowlers.

Packers twice stomped the Bears head to head.

They’re just better top to bottom.
Oh, Jesus. Yes, the Packers are a better team. But the question you asked was "are Packers better at literally every position on the football field minus ILB?" And the answer is clearly and unequivocally no.

Its a nonsense take. There's not a single team in the NFL that is worse at every position than any other team. As it pertains to GB, there's a reason why a team who commits to the run will score points against them. And, no, it's not just their ILB.

But again, the question posed was "is literally every player on GB better than every player on the Bears minus ILB." It's not even as general as every position group.

But hey, you keep thinking you're being reasonable with the insane take. The Bears suck and have a lot of shit to work through. It's almost a hopeless position for the next few years but I'm not gonna pile on more shit for a hot take. Like I said, there's a reason it came from Biggs.
 

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Let's put the question differently:

What would Green Bays record be if they didn't have Aaron Rodgers and instead had Mitchell Trubisky and Nick Foles?

What would the Bears record be if they had Aaron Rodgers?
 

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Oh, Jesus. Yes, the Packers are a better team. But the question you asked was "are Packers better at literally every position on the football field minus ILB?" And the answer is clearly and unequivocally no.

Its a nonsense take. There's not a single team in the NFL that is worse at every position than any other team. As it pertains to GB, there's a reason why a team who commits to the run will score points against them. And, no, it's not just their ILB.

But again, the question posed was "is literally every player on GB better than every player on the Bears minus ILB." It's not even as general as every position group.

But hey, you keep thinking you're being reasonable with the insane take. The Bears suck and have a lot of shit to work through. It's almost a hopeless position for the next few years but I'm not gonna pile on more shit for a hot take. Like I said, there's a reason it came from Biggs.

the article was about position groups. Their Oline vs ours. Their WRs vs ours. Etc
 

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Oh, Jesus. Yes, the Packers are a better team. But the question you asked was "are Packers better at literally every position on the football field minus ILB?" And the answer is clearly and unequivocally no.

Its a nonsense take. There's not a single team in the NFL that is worse at every position than any other team. As it pertains to GB, there's a reason why a team who commits to the run will score points against them. And, no, it's not just their ILB.

But again, the question posed was "is literally every player on GB better than every player on the Bears minus ILB." It's not even as general as every position group.

But hey, you keep thinking you're being reasonable with the insane take. The Bears suck and have a lot of shit to work through. It's almost a hopeless position for the next few years but I'm not gonna pile on more shit for a hot take. Like I said, there's a reason it came from Biggs.

The Packers run D has been top 15 since week 8. That was mainly a first half of the season weakness.

Every team commits to run against GB, only three of them actually won.

As I said, the only two positions that the Bears are better at are ILB and Corner.
 

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Our top 3 RBs are all safely better than Montgomery. Delusion on your part to think otherwise.

Tonyan has 11 TD catches, who tf on your team is even half the TE that he is?

Crosby is so much better then Santos this shouldn't even be mentioned lol.

I'm simply stating the players I would take. Not who had a better year or had cooler stats in 2020.

Aaron Jones is a mediocre back who Greenbay thinks is a gawd because they have had s*** runningbacks for Rodgers whole career. He is meh to me and wouldn't be able to shoulder the load on another team. Plus, I give more credit to Lafleur for keeping the offense more balanced and committed to the run.

I honestly don't know much about Tonyan. I'll give him credit for 11 TDs. But take it with a grain of salt considering who us QB. I actually don't think very much of any of Greenbay's offensive playmakers aside from Adam's. They are all a product of Rodgers. Plus, I personally really like Kmet and believe he will be good pro.

Ok, I'll give you Crosby, but Bears fans are a little excited about finally having a kicker hit over 90%
 

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Overall positions, I think the Bears have better ILBs and DLs. OLB is close if Quinn gets his head out of his ass. But the Bears have several players that would start if you combined the 2 teams. Mack is better than any of their OLBs. Hicks is better than any of their DEs. Fuller would start opposite Alexander at CB. Roquan definitely and maybe Trevathan would start. On offense, Whitehair would have a spot, obviously so would Robinson opposite Adams.
Bilal Nichols is better than any of their DEs. RRH might be too. They are shit.
The Packers run D has been top 15 since week 8. That was mainly a first half of the season weakness.

Every team commits to run against GB, only three of them actually won.

As I said, the only two positions that the Bears are better at are ILB and Corner.
Dude, I watched the Bears effectively jam it down your teams throat for 4 quarters just two weeks ago. Everyone knew it was going to be a run, and your team couldn't stop shit versus a terrible offensive line and QB. In fact the Bears had only 7 passes that game that traveled 10 or more yards through the air.

If that's fixed, I think you're in for a world of hurt.
 

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I'm simply stating the players I would take. Not who had a better year or had cooler stats in 2020.

Aaron Jones is a mediocre back who Greenbay thinks is a gawd because they have had s*** runningbacks for Rodgers whole career. He is meh to me and wouldn't be able to shoulder the load on another team. Plus, I give more credit to Lafleur for keeping the offense more balanced and committed to the run.

I honestly don't know much about Tonyan. I'll give him credit for 11 TDs. But take it with a grain of salt considering who us QB. I actually don't think very much of any of Greenbay's offensive playmakers aside from Adam's. They are all a product of Rodgers. Plus, I personally really like Kmet and believe he will be good pro.

Ok, I'll give you Crosby, but Bears fans are a little excited about finally having a kicker hit over 90%

You are saying that you would take worse players lol.

Aaron Jones had the highest ypc in football, and 2nd most TDs for a RB, since coming into the league. He literally might be the best RB in football since his draft, only other guy with an argument is McCaffrey.

Jones had 5.5 ypc with Brett Hundley at QB, swing and a miss buddy lol. Jones success predated Lafleur.

Rodgers is well known for not using TEs much, in addition, isn't Graham your top TE right now? Tonyan is demolishing anything Graham ever did here, or with you guys.
 
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Bilal Nichols is better than any of their DEs. RRH might be too. They are shit.

Dude, I watched the Bears effectively jam it down your teams throat for 4 quarters just two weeks ago. Everyone knew it was going to be a run, and your team couldn't stop shit versus a terrible offensive line and QB. In fact the Bears had only 7 passes that game that traveled 10 or more yards through the air.

If that's fixed, I think you're in for a world of hurt.

Zadarius Smith plays more DE then OLB, and Kingsley Keke has more sacks then Nichols or RRH.

Lmfao what? Your mediocre RB had a 3.1 ypc against GB last time we played this season. You didn't do shit to us in the run or pass.
 

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You are saying that you would take sores players lol.

Aaron Jones had the highest ypc in football, and 2nd most TDs for a RB, since coming into the league. He literally might be the best RB in football since his draft, only other guy with an argument is McCaffrey.

Jones had 5.5 ypc with Brett Hundley at QB, swing and a miss buddy lol. Jones success predated Lafleur.

Rodgers is well known for not using TEs much, in addition, isn't Graham your top TE right now? Tonyan is demolishing anything Graham ever did here, or with you guys.

Sorry to break it to you man, but you far overestimate the talent on your team. Sure GB may have some decent fantasy football players, but as an individual player they aren't very impressive.

I've seen enough of Aaron Jones to know he is a slightly above average back. I could name multiple backs taken in the same draft or later that I would rather have on my team:

McCaffery
Kamara
Dalvin Cook
Nick Chubb
Chris Carson
Josh Jacobs
Joe Mixon

I would include Saquon Barkley if he could stay healthy
 

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