Bears threw the ball 11 times. In 2022.

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Take your head our of your own ass. We're 1-1 so far against maybe the two best teams in the NFC. All of you would accept the outcome prior to the season starting.

You're no sage or expert, so shut up.
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This season has nothing to do with the record. It’s about developing young talent. Most importantly the QB. You can’t develop or evaluate a young qb if you don’t give him a fair shot (ie adding talent around him).
 

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Last year everyone wanted Nagy to run the ball and help his QB out. Now we want him to chuck it 30 times a game? I’m honestly confused. They had 3 sacks already last night. Do we want to see 8-9 a game? Maybe Getsy is protecting him for a few games so he doesn’t die.

Those sacks were largely on Fields not the OL. If he doesnt learn to get rid of the ball on time then it wont matter. If that means he needs to get beat up a bit until he needs to check down or die then so be it.

In fact I think the good OL play thus far is part of the reason he has regressed to his big play hunting. He feels he has time to **** around in the pocket and wait for the big play. He doesnt.
 

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Those sacks were largely on Fields not the OL. If he doesnt learn to get rid of the ball on time then it wont matter. If that means he needs to get beat up a bit until he needs to check down or die then so be it.

In fact I think the good OL play thus far is part of the reason he has regressed to his big play hunting. He feels he has time to **** around in the pocket and wait for the big play. He doesnt.
Oh I agree they’re largely (or partly) on him. I’m just not sure I agree with the “he needs to get beat up a bit” part.
 

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One would think you need to actually pass the ball to develop a QB.

Of course there are going to be growing pains, but lack of reps is not the answer.

what ?


First Bears possession

4 Montgomery runs
1 Fields pass
1 Fields dropped snap
1 Fields rushing TD


Second Bears possession

1 Fields sack
1 Fields pass for negative yards Mooney
1 Fields screen pass on 3rd and 19 to Monty

Bears 3rd possession
penalty
Hebert run - why is he in how could Monty possibly be tired ?
Hebert run
Fields illegal forward pass

Bears 4th possession

Fields first incompletion
Hey Montys still here for a negative obvious run play
Fields completes pass to St Brown short of the sticks

Its basically halftime and we waisted 3 possessions all but ignoring the teams best offensive player who is not Justin but Montgomery right now.

First possession of the second half

Fields run 7 yards
SACK
Monty dump off for 7 yards


We do not have the personnel to stand back there and throw it with impunity from the shotgun everything this team does offensively has to be based off of running the ball either with Monty or with Fields from UNDER CENTER.

Now this is not on Fields this is on the coaching staff because there should not be a run play under center that does not have a play action option to it designed to get either Mooney or Kmet involved .

We want Fields to throw more than 11 times than we have to commit to doing the dirty work to ensure that he gets those opportunities
 

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I know the WRs suck. I know the OL sucks. And I can even admit that Fields hasn't proven himself as a pocket passer. But what the **** was Getsy doing tonight? You're just not going to win an NFL game doing that.
I think that you need to look at it like Getsy called 41 plays and 21 were rushing plays and 20 were passing plays. That’s almost ideal for a young QB. The problem was three of those passes plays were sacks (2 were on Fields) and then Fields Scrambled on six passing plays, because the WRs either weren’t open or he didn’t see them.

I honestly don’t have a problem with the playcalling except for so much shotgun. But, again so much shotgun was called to help Fields see the opposing defense. I don’t know why shotgun was called on the goal line unless it was an RPO call.
 

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running the ball 90% or roughly halve the time.
You realize 90% is way more than half the time right? You also realize running the ball half the time should be the goal. You also realize they called 51% running players. And finally you must realize 51% is actually roughly half.
 

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Am I wrong that people were losing there minds last year about running the ball and protecting Fields? Like that’s what everyone wanted right? (Everyone not being 100% of course… but most)
You're spot on.

2017 Mitch Trubisky - "Fox needs to let him throw more." (Run, run, pass, punt)

2019 Mitch Trubisky - We need to run more.

2021 Fields - We need to run more to help him out.

2022 Fields - We need to let him throw 30 times.

It just goes in circles...and of course the professional coaches aren't doing the right thing.
 

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Oh I agree they’re largely (or partly) on him. I’m just not sure I agree with the “he needs to get beat up a bit” part.

Well I prefer he learn without having to but if he refuses to then NFL defenders will teach him he doesnt have time or otherwise he will be out of the NFL quickly.

Just like Shanny and Lance needed to learn you cant just run Lance like a fullback all the time. You either learn the easy way or you learn while on IR recovering from a season ending injury.

Fields needs to learn to protect himself and get rid of the ball or run. Up to him whether he wants to do it the easy way or hard.
 

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what ?


First Bears possession

4 Montgomery runs
1 Fields pass
1 Fields dropped snap
1 Fields rushing TD


Second Bears possession

1 Fields sack
1 Fields pass for negative yards Mooney
1 Fields screen pass on 3rd and 19 to Monty

Bears 3rd possession
penalty
Hebert run - why is he in how could Monty possibly be tired ?
Hebert run
Fields illegal forward pass

Bears 4th possession

Fields first incompletion
Hey Montys still here for a negative obvious run play
Fields completes pass to St Brown short of the sticks

Its basically halftime and we waisted 3 possessions all but ignoring the teams best offensive player who is not Justin but Montgomery right now.

First possession of the second half

Fields run 7 yards
SACK
Monty dump off for 7 yards


We do not have the personnel to stand back there and throw it with impunity from the shotgun everything this team does offensively has to be based off of running the ball either with Monty or with Fields from UNDER CENTER.

Now this is not on Fields this is on the coaching staff because there should not be a run play under center that does not have a play action option to it designed to get either Mooney or Kmet involved .

We want Fields to throw more than 11 times than we have to commit to doing the dirty work to ensure that he gets those opportunities
Part of it is them not calling passes and the other part is him not getting the ball out fast enough on some drop backs.

They are committed enough to running the ball as has been evident though two games so far.
 

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Well when you go three and out constantly. They should have ran the ball more, cause it was the only thing moving the chains.
Exactly .... And they did great Running .. Oline and RBs

We need high quality wide receivers. EQ and Pettis are normally #4 or 3s. Where's the time a QB needs in PassPro ?
 

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It’s 2022 and the silver lining is we ran the ball well lol hahahahahaha
 

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The Packers broke the Kool-Aide bubble. We are a young team with a lot of potential. We need playmakers on O and some seasoning in Pass Pro
 

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Well I prefer he learn without having to but if he refuses to then NFL defenders will teach him he doesnt have time or otherwise he will be out of the NFL quickly.

Just like Shanny and Lance needed to learn you cant just run Lance like a fullback all the time. You either learn the easy way or you learn while on IR recovering from a season ending injury.

Fields needs to learn to protect himself and get rid of the ball or run. Up to him whether he wants to do it the easy way or hard.
"We can do this the easy way or the hard way"

That is what I tell my 6 year old. It gets the message across.
 

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So? Super Bowl winning teams don’t always make the right moves. Just because a team wins a SB doesn’t mean they’re always correct

You’re missing the point. The point is that a dynamic offense that just won the Super Bowl still felt the need to add more firepower and they paid our wr1 to be their wr2. While the Bears were content to do what exactly? It’s no curse or mystery why this team has sucked on offense year in and year out.

You can’t just draft a QB and expect a miracle. It takes years for a QB to get to the level of a Rodgers who can just elevate those around him. Most never get to that point. Bears continually ask inexperienced players to do this, it’s a disaster every time.
 

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Part of it is them not calling passes and the other part is him not getting the ball out fast enough on some drop backs.

They are committed enough to running the ball as has been evident though two games so far.

It was about about a even split in play calling the problem is

If you run it successfully under center

and throw it from the shotgun

its a tell and it simply does not work . We just watched this with Nagy for 4 years and not having pass plays based on the run formations that were successful.

Where were the boots ? the rollouts ? The RPO's ? the FULLBACK ? Its as if they had no plan for if they actually had success running the ball.
 

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You put Tua here and it's the same song and dance. Just a different name at QB. Miami has some major horsepower for outside weapons. Hill and Waddle are top of the pyramid game breakers. It was definitely a fun game to watch.

Fans were ready to write Tua off already after last season.
Not to mention both QBs threw more passes in that single game than Fields has all season. Those OCs call plays that are going to win games.
 

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I thought they looked good in the second half. GB couldn’t stop the run. They needed to score on that goal line stop and it’s a 7 point game. Didn’t get embarrassed and actually had a tiny shot at one point. Fields will sometimes show flashes but he just kills too many drives right now. Hopefully it’s just growing pains and he’ll learn. Not going to repeat the same thing I’ve read 30 times. We all see it. He has to get better.

Overall though I was pretty happy if you juxtapose it to how they started. I think this is going to be their M.O. When they get the defense rolling they’ll suffocate teams. Still a work in progress right now though .
 

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It was about about a even split in play calling the problem is

If you run it successfully under center

and throw it from the shotgun

its a tell and it simply does not work . We just watched this with Nagy for 4 years and not having pass plays based on the run formations that were successful.

Where were the boots ? the rollouts ? The RPO's ? the FULLBACK ? Its as if they had no plan for if they actually had success running the ball.

They did a rollout or a bootleg or whatever it was and Fields ran right into the defender.
 

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It was about about a even split in play calling the problem is

If you run it successfully under center

and throw it from the shotgun

its a tell and it simply does not work . We just watched this with Nagy for 4 years and not having pass plays based on the run formations that were successful.

Where were the boots ? the rollouts ? The RPO's ? the FULLBACK ? Its as if they had no plan for if they actually had success running the ball.
I’m not arguing the manner in which it is done, just that it needs to be done.

And yes, I agree there needs to be bootlegs and rollouts.
 

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