Bears trade for Claypool

[JoJoBoxer]

Well he and Mooney have 4.3 speed. I don't get it. I'd be sending em deep 4x a game,

And St. Brown, Pringle and Claypool deep an additional 4x a game too. They might not have 4.3 speed, but they all have sub 4.5 speed.

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

We will see how it plays out. But this is the same stuff I hated on pace for. Guess the honey moon period must be observed for saint poles lol

What’s the equivalent Pace move?

 

[JoJoBoxer]

Velus can't catch is the problem

Simple solution: have him bunk with Mooney for a month where Mooney doesn't allow him to go to bed until after spending two hours catching balls from Mooney's Juggs machine.

Dammit, if a Bears CB can use a Juggs machine to be able to catch interceptions over one off-season, Velus should be able to learn how to catch the ball in one month.

 

[dennehy]

There are many ways to look at this. I think the way that Poles was looking is that Claypool is almost certainly going to be better next year than a player drafted with that pick and that he gives the Bears something in the ballpark of an average receiving unit for the rest of this year.

This also means they have close to unlimited resources to fix their lines in free agency and the draft, knowing you have two starting caliber WRs at very low cost. To me, past QB, that is always job #1.

I still don't think his production or projection are worth a high round 2 pick, and it's logical to look at it from that perspective as well. It brings up the tough decision of having to decide whether or not to sign both of your top WRs in the same offseason, and if everything works out, at a very crucial time for the team. But there is always risk, and I think I agree with this one.

 

[JoJoBoxer]

thanks, Dick.

you should share your insight more. it'll contrast well against the other fuckheads at CCS.

Damn, that was one backhanded compliment there.

If you wanted to really compliment Dick, you should have not included him with the fuckheads with "the other fuckheads".

 

[ZOMBIE@CTESPN]

What’s the equivalent Pace move?

There is no one for one equivalent. It’s the squandering of high valued picks. This is likely a top ten 2 round pick that’s a very high draft pick for a player that’s never gotten 1000 yards. That’s a high pick for a guy to evaluate. This isn’t trading for aj brown. And we aren’t competing for anything this year and likely not next year. Btw Amari cooper was traded for a 5th round draft pick and everyone in offseason said poles was right to pass on that it’s not the right time. But saint poles honey moon period is in full affect right now lol

 

[Pretzel Logic]

Except that he's played 2.5 years of his rookie contract and now expects to get paid while not being anything near what he was after his rookie year.

Other than that it makes perfect sense to give another team a chance to redo their second round pick whilst getting their guy with an attitude problem and a contract negotiation incoming in exchange. Especially because the Bears are so entirely setup to win now...

I must have missed all of this.

Love a good narrative on a message board, especially one that is being stretched to fit it.

Thank fuck they are building for the future rather than win now.

Again Packers obsession. So they messed up and made a bad trade now makes all 2nd round picks a huge risk? Look back a few years at 2nd round pick WRs I think you will be shocked at how many stars were found.

Also remember only two finite assets in football, cap space and draft picks. When you trade a draft pick for a “sure thing” you’re paying double the price as usually you have to pay the player a premium as well.

Is Chase Claypool a sure thing? Would you sign him him to a market deal right now? Say 3yr/$60 million? I wouldn’t.

Yes we messed up our second round pick at WR, bit like the first round WR in the top ten ...

Claypools production puts a lot of the WR's taken in the second round and above in to some clarity.

Is Claypool a sure thing? No idea, I'm not the one cunting about a player and the one second round pick used to make a trade on a message board when that player has 2.5 years of production for another team, yet has yet to take a meaningful snap on the Bears.

I'll wait and see rather than speculate.

 

[iueyedoc]

Ok then at the deadline I trade one for a top 5 2nd round pick. It’s such a no brainer should be easy to do.

You do realize the Bears 2nd rd pick is slotted at #12 currently, correct? When you keep saying top 5 2d round pick, that is just some made up thing in your head.

 

[Kurtosis]

There is no one for one equivalent. It’s the squandering of high valued picks. This is likely a top ten 2 round pick that’s a very high draft pick for a player that’s never gotten 1000 yards. That’s a high pick for a guy to evaluate. This isn’t trading for aj brown. And we aren’t competing for anything this year and likely not next year. Btw Amari cooper was traded for a 5th round draft pick and everyone in offseason said poles was right to pass on that it’s not the right time. But saint poles honey moon period is in full affect right now lol

I don’t think you can really compare the two situations. Cooper has over a 20 million dollar cap hit next season and the one after.

The Bears still have a 2nd round pick as well.

The move could certainly turn out to be a bust, but the logic makes sense.

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

There is no one for one equivalent. It’s the squandering of high valued picks. This is likely a top ten 2 round pick that’s a very high draft pick for a player that’s never gotten 1000 yards. That’s a high pick for a guy to evaluate. This isn’t trading for aj brown. And we aren’t competing for anything this year and likely not next year. Btw Amari cooper was traded for a 5th round draft pick and everyone in offseason said poles was right to pass on that it’s not the right time. But saint poles honey moon period is in full affect right now lol

Of course it’s not trading for AJ Brown…. He went for a 1st and a 3rd.

And who gives a shit about the 1,000 yards? D Adams didn’t hit 1,000 until his 5th season.

I’ve said numerous times on here I wish Poles had gone after Cooper. Think the Cowboys sold low on him.

 

[ZOMBIE@CTESPN]

I don’t think you can really compare the two situations. Cooper has over a 20 million dollar cap hit next season and the one after.

The Bears still have a 2nd round pick as well.

The move could certainly turn out to be a bust, but the logic makes sense.

If pace was still here and made this trade are you cheering this move today? I believe most would be laughing at him

 

[Pretzel Logic]

If pace was still here and made this trade are you cheering this move today? I believe most would be laughing at him

If Pace was still here we wouldn't have had that pick to begin with.

So no.

 

[Kurtosis]

If pace was still here and made this trade are you cheering this move today? I believe most would be laughing at him

I don’t think the value is too off for this one. And the issue with Pace was more trading up in the draft and losing capital, not 1 pick for 1 player.

I would have preferred a 3rd rounder for sure, but I like Claypool’s upside. We’ll see how it shakes out though.

 

[bamainatlanta]

We will see how it plays out. But this is the same stuff I hated on pace for. Guess the honey moon period must be observed for saint poles lol

Pace traded picks for unproven players. We have a baseline with Claypool at the very least.

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

Fair point lol

Are you LOLing at your own replies now?

 

[ZOMBIE@CTESPN]

Are you LOLing at your own replies now?

I was replying to pretzel hit the wrong one lol

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

The nice thing about this trade is unlike a draft day trade or off-season trade we get to see if it works right away. I mean give him several games to learn the offense. But those 4 games after the bye week will be crucial IMO.

 

[Clint Eastwood]

Plus a 5th rounder

Plus the money that would have have to have been spent on roquon in the offseason

 

[ZOMBIE@CTESPN]

The nice thing about this trade is unlike a draft day trade or off-season trade we get to see if it works right away. I mean give him several games to learn the offense. But those 4 games after the bye week will be crucial IMO.

He prob make an impact sooner. Won’t take much to beat out st brown and veelus even without knowing the playbook

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

He prob make an impact sooner. Won’t take much to beat out st brown and veelus even without knowing the playbook

I mean yeah he’ll play immediately but there’s still a learning curve. I’m waiting for the cunting if he doesn’t drop a 100 yard game this week