Ben Gordon Goes OFF

[scottiepippen1994]

And another SP94 fact and ponit:
Ask yourself who was more effective playing with Rose?
Hinrich or Gordon?
Should be easy to answer, but for the mentally handicapped who post here (and I'm saying no names), I answer the question for you. BEN GORDON.
Rose needs scoring help and Hinrich really can't provide that..He would hold the ball too much like he used to while taking some godawful shots that lost us games when he should of passed the dam ball to Gordon or Rose...........Rose and Gordon were extremely tough to guard together on the floor and you already knoow that...Rondo and Allen can vouch for that.......And for that reason, I would rather have Gordon back than hinrich....We have plenty of defense on our team to mask Gordons lack of....But for some reason I think Gordon would at least be a slightly better defender playing for Thibbs....better than under Skiles....And we don't need Gordon for defense anyway, just for instant offense and that's exactly what he is.......

 

[scottiepippen1994]

Actually you are mistaken my friend.
Ben Gordon di want to re-sign with the Bulls but Paxson didn't have him in his plans.
Paxson wouldn't even give Ben or his agent an interview and he didn't even want to.
Paxson basically gave Ben the cold shoulder treatment that summer. Pax probably did it to throw a punch at Ben for not accepting his insulting offer earlier that season. If Pax would have at least gave him the same offer in the summer, Ben probably would of negotiated................What the **** was Ben supposed to do? Not sign with any team........Ben Gordon left Chicago bitter and unappreciated by the owners,management and fans he played his heart out for.......It was Gordon that got stabbed in the back.......
If it wasn't for Ben Gordon, the Bulls would of went more painful years of not making the playoffs.....And crybaby fans pouting over it......Ben Gordon deserved the respect from management for saving the Bulls and helping us regain respect from the fans and opposing teams around the league.....Don't you ever forget that......Ben wanted to stay a Bull...The Bulls didn't want him and turned there back....Ben carried the Bull his last season while Deng sat injurred collecting his much bigger salary then Ben was offered.......This is not oppinion, but FACT.........Do your homework before you make false judgements on peoples character.... Ben Gordon was a class act on and off the court who rarely complained and went out every night and gave it his all even while injured.....but I guess you people forget that too..............I'm ashamed of some of you right now.

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I agree with SP.
I couldn't say it better myself.
I got your back bro and I would click on the thank you button, but the computer won't let me for some odd Godforesaken reason. Sorry brother.

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

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I agree with SP.
I couldn't say it better myself.
I got your back bro and I would click on the thank you button, but the computer won't let me for some odd Godforesaken reason. Sorry brother.

 

[clonetrooper264]

Say wut?

Cutler didn't have the option to leave, did he? So he told the fans

 

[clonetrooper264]

One Ben Gordon pays for Ronnie Brewer, Kyle Korver, and C.J. Watson combined. The Bulls made the right choice by letting him become Detroit's problem.

This I don't deny. I didn't want Ben Gordon at that price either. I wanted him at 9M..MAYBE at that second deal (around 10M?), but no higher.

 

[scottiepippen1994]

The fans that give him so much hate now are the same fans that wanted him to stay when he walked out on us. He was great for the Bulls, keyword being WAS. This is a different team, one focused on defense and rebounding, two things he was never good at.

He thought he was better than the money he was offered and went chasing it. He wanted money, so let him wallow in Detroit. I couldn't care less. I liked him when he was here, he won a ton of games for us. But he wanted superstar money and he isn't one.

So **** Ben Gordon.

So **** you too

 

[Frank Breakfast Styleham]

That's exactly what I'm saying. I'm enjoying Lucas' play as of late as much as anyone else but you don't actually think he's gonna keep this up do you?

When has John Lucas (the son OR the daddy) put up 44 points while tying an NBA record for most 3's without a miss? I got on 2k12 tonight and my assassin shooter (in this case it was Brandon Jennings who swished his first 6 3's) couldn't even make 9 in a row on a video game.

And that was after I got on there before the game and increased his 3-point shooting ability to a 99. Still couldn't make 9 in a row like your boy Ben did for Detroit last night.

When has John Lucas done THAT? 44 points? NBA record performance.

See, you're afraid to say it so I'll man up and say it for you.

Ben Gordon is nowhere near as bad as you and the people of your ilk make him out to be. In fact he is one of the TOP TEN players to ever wear the red and white.

I know you would never admit to it on the outset in front of everyone but deep down inside in the pit of yo stomach you HAVE to know I'm right about Ben Gordon and that you were SO wrong to loudly demand his exodus from this organization through your ugliness towards his person.

You're not man enough to say it so I will do it for you.

Isn't it true that Ben Gordon (instead of Johnny Luke) off the bench INSTANTLY makes this Bulls team not merely a contender as they presently are, but makes them THE runaway favorite to hoist the championship trophy come June.

Can you imagine how differently the ECF would have been last year if instead of Bogan's bricks we had Ben Gordon coming off the bench and knocking down 5...6...7...8...9 straight 3's!? We would have beat Miami by 35 points!

But instead he's just a looter in a riot over in Motown.

But WITH him?

Rose? Noah? Boozer? Rip? With Ben Gordon coming off the BENCH!?

Are you kidding me!?

If he gets amnesteyed as some of our buddies suggested earlier this evening, you would be a first class fool to pass up on a Ben Gordon return to the United Center. I'm so glad you aren't running the Bulls, Hou.

So you are saying those shots are going in for Lucas...because of luck? Good health is luck, landing with Thibs may even be luck. Hitting open 3pt shots off a pick and roll is skill!

Plus as I have said before...Gordon is high maintenance. He is bad defensively and doesn't handle the ball well. So you definitely need a high quality ball handler/defender with Gordon. That squeezes his playing time...and he makes 11+mil.

You want a guy that can shoot lights out? The Bulls should go after Morrow next year. With Brook's emergence, they probably won't need Morrow anymore. And he comes at 1/3 of the price you will have to pay Gordon.

 

[houheffna]

That's exactly what I'm saying. I'm enjoying Lucas' play as of late as much as anyone else but you don't actually think he's gonna keep this up do you?

When has John Lucas (the son OR the daddy) put up 44 points while tying an NBA record for most 3's without a miss? I got on 2k12 tonight and my assassin shooter (in this case it was Brandon Jennings who swished his first 6 3's) couldn't even make 9 in a row on a video game.

And that was after I got on there before the game and increased his 3-point shooting ability to a 99. Still couldn't make 9 in a row like your boy Ben did for Detroit last night.

When has John Lucas done THAT? 44 points? NBA record performance.

See, you're afraid to say it so I'll man up and say it for you.

Ben Gordon is nowhere near as bad as you and the people of your ilk make him out to be. In fact he is one of the TOP TEN players to ever wear the red and white.

I know you would never admit to it on the outset in front of everyone but deep down inside in the pit of yo stomach you HAVE to know I'm right about Ben Gordon and that you were SO wrong to loudly demand his exodus from this organization through your ugliness towards his person.

You're not man enough to say it so I will do it for you.

Isn't it true that Ben Gordon (instead of Johnny Luke) off the bench INSTANTLY makes this Bulls team not merely a contender as they presently are, but makes them THE runaway favorite to hoist the championship trophy come June.

Can you imagine how differently the ECF would have been last year if instead of Bogan's bricks we had Ben Gordon coming off the bench and knocking down 5...6...7...8...9 straight 3's!? We would have beat Miami by 35 points!

But instead he's just a looter in a riot over in Motown.

But WITH him?

Rose? Noah? Boozer? Rip? With Ben Gordon coming off the BENCH!?

Are you kidding me!?

If he gets amnesteyed as some of our buddies suggested earlier this evening, you would be a first class fool to pass up on a Ben Gordon return to the United Center. I'm so glad you aren't running the Bulls, Hou.

Aren't you the same dude that said Gordon would win an MVP in Detroit in 2010? Yeah, that would be you...and I asked you NOT to type on acid...you still get high off that stuff I see...

Yeah well, I got news for you...Reinsdorf (the guy who IS running the Bulls) doesn't much care for Ben Gordon, it was HIS decision to let Gordon go without a counteroffer.

Also, the other reason Gordon was let go...was because the Bulls wanted Rose to take the shots Gordon was taking. They wanted Rose to be the man...Gordon was in the way.

I think the Bulls got it right. And as usual, you got it wrong...good luck with 2k12...how about you hold your breath until you can get Gordon to win an MVP on your precious video game. Let's see if that works for you...

 

[scottiepippen1994]

Aren't you the same dude that said Gordon would win an MVP in Detroit in 2010? Yeah, that would be you...and I asked you NOT to type on acid...you still get high off that stuff I see...

Yeah well, I got news for you...Reinsdorf (the guy who IS running the Bulls) doesn't much care for Ben Gordon, it was HIS decision to let Gordon go without a counteroffer.

Also, the other reason Gordon was let go...was because the Bulls wanted Rose to take the shots Gordon was taking. They wanted Rose to be the man...Gordon was in the way.

I think the Bulls got it right. And as usual, you got it wrong...good luck with 2k12...how about you hold your breath until you can get Gordon to win an MVP on your precious video game. Let's see if that works for you...

I agree 100% that Pax didn't make Gordon an offer before he signed with Detroit because he felt that Rose was going to be the man..Luckily for Pax, Rose has become just that.
I knew right away when we drafted Rose that Ben Gordons days as a Bull was numbered.
At the time, they were almost like the same player.
However, I feel that When Rose and Gordon got used to playing with each other that they were becoming the best backcourt duel in the East in my opinion.
I would of kept Gordon and got rid of Hinrich sooner.
To me, B.g is absolutely the better player and still is. Hinrich hasn't done a dam thing since he left but get fitted for goggles.
Ben Gordon hasn't done that much either since his departure.
I do believe that the way our team is set up defensively right now, that Ben Gordon would fit perfectly. All our good befenders we have right now would mask Gordons lack of.
We don't need Gordon for defense or to start. He would just be a very benificial option off the bench when our team struggles in the scoring department. Its called,Instant offense which B.G is still capable of....he just happens to be in a sad pathetic situation in Detroit...the only thing good for himm there is the pay......And I believe Ben would give up some of that money he's making over there to be in a winning situation.
He really needs to be in a better situation...

 

[houheffna]

I agree 100% that Pax didn't make Gordon an offer before he signed with Detroit because he felt that Rose was going to be the man..Luckily for Pax, Rose has become just that.
I knew right away when we drafted Rose that Ben Gordons days as a Bull was numbered.
At the time, they were almost like the same player.
However, I feel that When Rose and Gordon got used to playing with each other that they were becoming the best backcourt duel in the East in my opinion.
I would of kept Gordon and got rid of Hinrich sooner.
To me, B.g is absolutely the better player and still is. Hinrich hasn't done a dam thing since he left but get fitted for goggles.
Ben Gordon hasn't done that much either since his departure.
I do believe that the way our team is set up defensively right now, that Ben Gordon would fit perfectly. All our good befenders we have right now would mask Gordons lack of.
We don't need Gordon for defense or to start. He would just be a very benificial option off the bench when our team struggles in the scoring department. Its called,Instant offense which B.G is still capable of....he just happens to be in a sad pathetic situation in Detroit...the only thing good for himm there is the pay......And I believe Ben would give up some of that money he's making over there to be in a winning situation.
He really needs to be in a better situation...

I always felt he would be great coming off the bench...but you know who felt differently? Ben Gordon. He not only wanted to start...he wanted starters money. That is why I see him as totally unattainable at this time.

 

[scottiepippen1994]

I always felt he would be great coming off the bench...but you know who felt differently? Ben Gordon. He not only wanted to start...he wanted starters money. That is why I see him as totally unattainable at this time.

I don't know bro, I think he would be more attainable at least when his contract is done in Detroit or if he gets bought out or somthing. I'm sure after the significant drop in his stats in Detroit, he will come a lot cheaper in his next contract.

And may I ask you a Question?
If you were the leading scorer on your team for 4 years, while remaining a class act, injury free wouldn't you expect starter pay or at least the starting position, or more respect by management??????????
I know I sure as hell would.......Ben may of came off the bench for most his Bulls career, but he played starter minutes everynight and was in the game in all clutch situations with the responsibility of having the most important clutch plays written up for him...After all, Ben was the #1 go to guy and main one that got us out of huge deficits..Don't you remeber how the Bulls would be down by 10+ points and Ben would carry the load of having to bring us back into those games? Plus we won most of them.

But yes, I know just like you do that the chances of Gordon ever wearing a Bulls uniform again are slim to none...That's why I don't bring getting Gordon up too much...it is realistically just false hope...

The only problem I really have with some of the posters here is the complete disrespect for a guy that gave us Bulls fans a lot of fun and things to cheer about after a long 7 years of being one of the worst teams in the league without playoff appearances...Gordon may not be a Bull no more, but I will always appreciate how Ben came in and was the most major part of bringing the Bulls back into respectabiltiy while he stayed a class act on and off the court.....I'm sorry, but I believe some of these hater Bulls fans really ought to give credit where its do and for the love of God, they need to seriously get off Hinrichs lil dick...Its very disturbing how much hate on Bulls messageboards have been displayed toward B.G(who's a good guy) for no good reason for years and years.... Plus the overrating of Hinrich is completely ridiculous.. The Gordon hate and Hinrich dick sucking is too dam old for words........


And one more important comment I must make:
I can't help but notice how some of the amazing things that Rose does blows peoples minds as if they have never seen shit like that before..Ben Gordon used to do that shit all the time too minus the dunks of course.
Watching Gordon at times was like watching a mini Jordan. The knees he broke and unbelieveable shots he made on a nightly basis doesn't come a dime a dozen. Shooters with his capability to get some of those shots up and make them is a skill that isn't that common or replaceable...All I can say is we lucked out with Rose, because he too has that ability, but the offensiive load shouldn't be constantly thrown on the pointguards back..He should have a dependable scorer in the clutch to pass the ball too like Gordon, because that's what a pointguards roll 1st and foremost is supposed to be......Well isn't it?????

 

[scottiepippen1994]

I don't know bro, I think he would be more attainable at least when his contract is done in Detroit or if he gets bought out or somthing. I'm sure after the significant drop in his stats in Detroit, he will come a lot cheaper in his next contract.

And may I ask you a Question?
If you were the leading scorer on your team for 4 years, while remaining a class act, injury free wouldn't you expect starter pay or at least the starting position, or more respect by management??????????
I know I sure as hell would.......Ben may of came off the bench for most his Bulls career, but he played starter minutes everynight and was in the game in all clutch situations with the responsibility of having the most important clutch plays written up for him...After all, Ben was the #1 go to guy and main one that got us out of huge deficits..Don't you remeber how the Bulls would be down by 10+ points and Ben would carry the load of having to bring us back into those games? Plus we won most of them.

But yes, I know just like you do that the chances of Gordon ever wearing a Bulls uniform again are slim to none...That's why I don't bring getting Gordon up too much...it is realistically just false hope...

The only problem I really have with some of the posters here is the complete disrespect for a guy that gave us Bulls fans a lot of fun and things to cheer about after a long 7 years of being one of the worst teams in the league without playoff appearances...Gordon may not be a Bull no more, but I will always appreciate how Ben came in and was the most major part of bringing the Bulls back into respectabiltiy while he stayed a class act on and off the court.....I'm sorry, but I believe some of these hater Bulls fans really ought to give credit where its do and for the love of God, they need to seriously get off Hinrichs lil dick...Its very disturbing how much hate on Bulls messageboards have been displayed toward B.G(who's a good guy) for no good reason for years and years.... Plus the overrating of Hinrich is completely ridiculous.. The Gordon hate and Hinrich dick sucking is too dam old for words........


And one more important comment I must make:
I can't help but notice how some of the amazing things that Rose does blows peoples minds as if they have never seen shit like that before..Ben Gordon used to do that shit all the time too minus the dunks of course.
Watching Gordon at times was like watching a mini Jordan. The knees he broke and unbelieveable shots he made on a nightly basis doesn't come a dime a dozen. Shooters with his capability to get some of those shots up and make them is a skill that isn't that common or replaceable...All I can say is we lucked out with Rose, because he too has that ability, but the offensiive load shouldn't be constantly thrown on the pointguards back..He should have a dependable scorer in the clutch to pass the ball too like Gordon, because that's what a pointguards roll 1st and foremost is supposed to be......Well isn't it?????

YES
SP94 is the truth and the truth shall set you free.
And speaking of free, Free BEN GORDON..and I don't care if he gets traded to another team besides the Bulls..I just want to see him get out of that Hell Hole and sorry example of an NBA orginization..Class Acts like Ben do not belong in that kind of unbareable situation.
Can I get an AMEN?

 

[scottiepippen1994]

YES
SP94 is the truth and the truth shall set you free.
And speaking of free, Free BEN GORDON..and I don't care if he gets traded to another team besides the Bulls..I just want to see him get out of that Hell Hole and sorry example of an NBA orginization..Class Acts like Ben do not belong in that kind of unbareable situation.
Can I get an AMEN?

Why certainly.
You can always count on an Amen from me brother. ray:
GODBLESS YOU

 

[houheffna]

Gordon can not be the man on a championship team. So there is no "luckily" to it. Rose showed signs from the very beginning. First playoff game? 36 points...with no jumpshot at all. Anybody remember that?

Let's not compare Gordon to Rose, comparing Gordon to Hinrich is more like it. Gordon is not deserving of comparison to an MVP. So throw that argument in the trash.

And please stop comparing him to Jordan...Stevie Wonder knows better than that.

I wish I could say reading someone having a conversation with themselves is amusing...but it really isn't.

But here is a hint...find out WHY Reinsdorf is angry with Gordon and didn't want him here...do you know? I doubt it...

 

[Frank Breakfast Styleham]

K, I'll keep you posted on that. He's definitely in the running thus far.

Are you talking about the guy (Rose) who shoots 31% from 3 point range getting the shots of the guy who shoots 40% (Gordon)?

I say you can have both. Rose starts, he bricks all his 3's, then you bring in Gordon off the bench and he hits 9 3's in a row, something Rose couldn't do if his life depended on it and was in the gym all by himself.

You can have both Houston.

You can have both.

Rose plays, Gordon sits. Gordon plays, Rose sits for a spell.

I'm telling you right now. Forget the past, bring him back if Detroit cuts him loose and we'd be the title favorite.

Aren't you the same dude that said Gordon would win an MVP in Detroit in 2010? Yeah, that would be you...and I asked you NOT to type on acid...you still get high off that stuff I see...

Yeah well, I got news for you...Reinsdorf (the guy who IS running the Bulls) doesn't much care for Ben Gordon, it was HIS decision to let Gordon go without a counteroffer.

Also, the other reason Gordon was let go...was because the Bulls wanted Rose to take the shots Gordon was taking. They wanted Rose to be the man...Gordon was in the way.

I think the Bulls got it right. And as usual, you got it wrong...good luck with 2k12...how about you hold your breath until you can get Gordon to win an MVP on your precious video game. Let's see if that works for you...

 

[nwfisch]

K, I'll keep you posted on that. He's definitely in the running thus far.

Are you talking about the guy (Rose) who shoots 31% from 3 point range getting the shots of the guy who shoots 40% (Gordon)?

I say you can have both. Rose starts, he bricks all his 3's, then you bring in Gordon off the bench and he hits 9 3's in a row, something Rose couldn't do if his life depended on it and was in the gym all by himself.

You can have both Houston.

You can have both.

Rose plays, Gordon sits. Gordon plays, Rose sits for a spell.

I'm telling you right now. Forget the past, bring him back if Detroit cuts him loose and we'd be the title favorite.

:slap:

 

[F-350SMOKE]

I was a gordon fan. I could care less now. We have a much better team now. But all the people that hate him are doing all the talking. Ben scored 44 points on a random night for detroit. It just brought back memories when he used to do that here. So I dont know why all the fuss and periods.

 

[thechosenone]

I didn't expect to see someone referring to DRose and calling him "the guy who shoots 31%" LOL

MVPs and Ben Gordon's names shouldn't be in the same sentence for no reason.It is a multiple MVP award candidate vs a good 3pt shooter.

Having said that if we can have Ben Gordon for the starting SG position lets go for it.

 

[houheffna]

K, I'll keep you posted on that. He's definitely in the running thus far.

Are you talking about the guy (Rose) who shoots 31% from 3 point range getting the shots of the guy who shoots 40% (Gordon)?

I say you can have both. Rose starts, he bricks all his 3's, then you bring in Gordon off the bench and he hits 9 3's in a row, something Rose couldn't do if his life depended on it and was in the gym all by himself.

You can have both Houston.

You can have both.

Rose plays, Gordon sits. Gordon plays, Rose sits for a spell.

I'm telling you right now. Forget the past, bring him back if Detroit cuts him loose and we'd be the title favorite.

I never had a problem with Gordon coming off the bench. Never did...but think about this...

If the Bulls needed him so much, why were they trying to replace him in the starting lineup? That is why they drafted Thabo. That is why many suggested the Bulls draft Roy...Gordon was here while that was happening, remember?

And now, in Detroit, he can't beat out Rodney Stuckey?

 

[clonetrooper264]

Imo Gordon would be an ideal 6th man for a team. Better than Crawford, but not as dynamic as someone like Ginobili (because he can't pass as well). But he wants to start...and I can't blame him. What player doesn't want to start? Especially when they score 20 points a game? He worked hard every day and never complained and felt like all that (combined with the Bulls not having anyone to start ahead of him) made him deserving to start.