Blackhawks 2022-23 SEASON THREAD

[Bigfoot]

If we don’t get Bedard or at the least Fantilli this season is a waste.

 

[ytsejam]

I watched a lot of shitty Hawks teams before they started winning Cups.

I am ready to do that again.

 

[Probie2429]

Bedard is such a special talent I'd say no.

The Hawks ain't the only team tanking for the kid. If that doesn't raise your eyebrows on just how great this kid is.

But, you are 100% correct depth wins cups. The problem is, this team has zero depth in the pipeline outside of maybe three players and a bunch of question marks. Winning the lottery only to flip a kid who just might be the next big thing to accrue what? A couple high picks who combined might put up the same amount of points as one Bedard?

Now say the Hawks get the second pick, I'm all for it and I like Fantilli an awful lot.

But Bedard? Idk if I would trade away a kid who has gotten better every year and looks like a 100 point guy in the NHL.

I would think if Hawks are picking # 1 and team picking # 2 is willing to give up 2024 pick plus and Hawks still get Fantilli that would have to be considered.

 

[KBIB]

I would think if Hawks are picking # 1 and team picking # 2 is willing to give up 2024 pick plus and Hawks still get Fantilli that would have to be considered.

Well, your only allowed to win the draft two years in a five year span now thanks to the Oilers. If the Hawks win Bedard, they're not trading him. That rule is a complete game changer in terms of shitty teams sticking to the top five of the draft with GM's smiling like fools during the lottery that the team they manage is the drizzling shits.

Unless.... KD also puts a value on losing a lottery win slot if teams ask about trading for it.

Realistically, if the Hawks win the lottery, it's going to take an EA sports level trade to get Bedard. And if KD really listened, I'd say it's going to take a hell of alot more then a pick swap next year and a high pick in 24. Your looking at that and a couple more first round picks coming to the Hawks on top of a blue chip prospect or two.

A generational talent on his draft contract has ridiculous value. And KD would be shooting this franchise into the dark ages of he didn't ask for all that and telling whomever was interested that they're taking Seth's contract along with it.

 

[hawkinmontreal]

McDavid is a generational talent but hockey is all about depth. Even a guy like McDavid is only on the ice for 20-25 min a night tops out of 60 min. The Oilers are learning that the hard way. The biggest reason why the Hawks won 3 Cups was because of guys like Saad, Buff, Bolland, Hammer, Versteeg, etc. It’s what happens in the other 40 min where games are won. You know a guy like Bedard might be in line for a 10 million dollar plus contract after his ELC. In a flat cap era, that’s a team destroyer.

While I agree with you that it takes the third and forth line players and role players to win championships, however the Hawks are years away from that, Building around players like Bedard is the exact same thing the Hawks did with Kane and Toews. There is certainly no gaurentee Bedard is Mcdavid, there no gaurentee that he is Alexis Yashin either, but when it comes to his talent, you don’t let that type of player slip away. if the Hawks had the same thought process and didn’t draft Kane, the team would have zero cups.

 

[hawkinmontreal]

I would think if Hawks are picking # 1 and team picking # 2 is willing to give up 2024 pick plus and Hawks still get Fantilli that would have to be considered.

Now there is nothing wrong with Fantilli, he will be an exceptional talent, however you don’t pass on a player that has the intangibles to be the next Crosby or Mcdavid. Next year the Hawks have 2 number 1’s already and plenty of cap room, You build around Bedard(knowing the luck of the Hawks we will end up with Fantilli anyways.)

 

[Raskolnikov]

If we don’t get Bedard or at the least Fantilli this season is a waste.

And if we don’t trade Kane and Toews.

 

[KBIB]

The good news- the Hawks have a complete stud in Sarfonov in the KHL. The same guy who broke Dachs wrist.

The bad news- he's signed thru 2025, so even if he came over your not getting his best years

Yet another Blowman blunder.

 

[KBIB]

And for the record, I am 100% against drafting Russians outside of Michkov. Any kid with a shred of talent is signing long term with the KHL team that drafts them now.

These are wasted picks unless you want to wait until they are 25, get them to sign a one year, then break the bank resigning them if they have an average year when they can go back to Russia and get twice as much money.

 

[Granada]

Emily Kaplan said during the broadcast last night that Davidson will ask Toews and Kane about their futures with the Blackhawks "in the new year." Last night was their 1,000th game together. Seems like any day now that we should know something. She also asked Trouba about Athanisiou's comments pre-game; Trouba gave a bull-shit answer of course, but still, I really liked the questions she was asking last night, good job by her.

Although the score wouldn't indicate it, the Hawks actually played decent-enough last night. Had many moments were they dominated play, but just could not cash in. The second period was very entertaining. Lafferty with a huge hit on forgot-who now. Very chippy.

Man, feel terrible for Tinordi. The first game the guy removed the jaw-protector after getting like 100 stitches in the chin, he gets hit flush in the mouth with a blistering slap shot from the point. There was so much blood on the ice that the scrapers couldn't even get all of it off for the rest of the period.

Jones really pisses me off. Passed on a glorious shooting opportunity in the slot in the first period, instead opting for a back-door pass that was broken up; slow on a pass to Kane for a sure-goal in the second I believe.

Soderblom had some softies but he was also let out to dry at times. What else is new.

 

[Raskolnikov]

Now there is nothing wrong with Fantilli, he will be an exceptional talent, however you don’t pass on a player that has the intangibles to be the next Crosby or Mcdavid. Next year the Hawks have 2 number 1’s already and plenty of cap room, You build around Bedard(knowing the luck of the Hawks we will end up with Fantilli anyways.)

Bedard, Fantilli, a goalie, a hidden gem.

We will get something good. Some pieces keep a rebuild going, some accelerate the process.

From here it looks like the defense will come together sooner than expected.

Bedard is the dream.

 

[ZOMBIE@CTESPN]

What does landing bedard have to do with depth? They have years before this team is ready to develop depth. Next few years they have many picks and I’m betting they will be getting more before trade deadline. You will get allot of potential depth to develop in the next three years

 

[KBIB]

If we don’t get Bedard or at the least Fantilli this season is a waste.

I wouldn't say that.

There's a lot of elite talent in next year's draft. At least four players would have gone first overall in the last draft.

Bedard is on his own tier
Fantilli and Michkov ain't far behind
Carlsson is right below them.

If the Hawks can get one of these kids it's a great draft.

Knock on wood, if the Hawks get lucky and get Bedard,If Michkov drops KD has to do everything in his power to get another top ten pick and get him.

And then you have officially replaced Toews and Kane.

Hell, if the Hawks land Bedard, I wouldn't be against trading the two Bolts first rounders and next year's Hawks first and trying to get Fantilli or Michkov.

 

[KBIB]

What does landing bedard have to do with depth? They have years before this team is ready to develop depth. Next few years they have many picks and I’m betting they will be getting more before trade deadline. You will get allot of potential depth to develop in the next three years

It remains to be seen if this regime knows how to develop talent.


Sending kids to juniors and loading up your AHL team with has beens isn't doing anybody any favors.

Granted, all the kids drafted last year should be in juniors dominating, but, they reached an awful lot on a bunch of their picks in their first draft.

 

[Diehardfan]

I'm not sure what the deal is about depth at this stage of the game. They are tanking and trying to highlight certain players to be moved. The next step is to acquire young talent, starting with next year's draft. Sure, you need depth to be a top team but they are nowhere near that point yet. They need to hit a few home runs in the 2023 draft and then see what happens after that.

 

[MassHavoc]

WE'RE NUMBER 1!
WE'RE NUMBER 1!
WE'RE NUMBER 1!
WE'RE NUMBER 1!
WE'RE NUMBER 1!
WE'RE NUMBER 1!
WE'RE NUMBER 1!

 

[Diehardfan]

I was thinking they could run this streak out for awhile.....potentially blow up the 18 game losing streak held by Buffalo and Pitt. They'd be the talk of the NHL. The trouble is....they got a couple of Columbus games coming up. They gotta win one of those....don't they?

 

[MassHavoc]

I was thinking they could run this streak out for awhile.....potentially blow up the 18 game losing streak held by Buffalo and Pitt. They'd be the talk of the NHL. The trouble is....they got a couple of Columbus games coming up. They gotta win one of those....don't they?

Win just enough home games to treat the fans but not enough to get out of last

 

[KBIB]

I'm not sure what the deal is about depth at this stage of the game. They are tanking and trying to highlight certain players to be moved. The next step is to acquire young talent, starting with next year's draft. Sure, you need depth to be a top team but they are nowhere near that point yet. They need to hit a few home runs in the 2023 draft and then see what happens after that.

Well, if they luck into Bedard, they hit a grand slam.

That said, they need to hit a home run on every high pick for the next three years, and not pick trash like Bustvist with a top ten pick or mediocre talents like Dach who are getting 70% o-zone starts and still floundering playing with good talents.

The jury is still out this regime can find players in the later rounds who can contribute. Drafting Bedard is easy if you have the first pick. Finding Duncan Keith in the second round is a little harder to do

 

[MassHavoc]

Well, if they luck into Bedard, they hit a grand slam.

That said, they need to hit a home run on every high pick for the next three years, and not pick trash like Bustvist with a top ten pick or mediocre talents like Dach who are getting 70% o-zone starts and still floundering playing with good talents.

The jury is still out this regime can find players in the later rounds who can contribute. Drafting Bedard is easy if you have the first pick. Finding Duncan Keith in the second round is a little harder to do

Sounds like you are giving up on last years draft already?