Blago GUILTY!

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Hey RK, a group of friends and I are thinking SE Wyoming. The tax structure there is pretty favorable. You in?
 

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Hey RK, a group of friends and I are thinking SE Wyoming. The tax structure there is pretty favorable. You in?



If I am heading west then the Black Hills is as far as I need to go. I could see myself owning a place outside of Deadwood.



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Hey RK, a group of friends and I are thinking SE Wyoming. The tax structure there is pretty favorable. You in?





I'm in. Close enough to my dad in Montana. Anywhere but this shit hole of a State. And of course the shit hole called California.



Jacksonhole and the Blackfoot MTNS are pretty cool.
 

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We plan to be in Colorado within the next 5 years.
 

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I would like to thank all the dumb ass voters in this piece of shit state for voting for this scumbag and allowing him to continue the business as usual shit in this state.



Then of course making it right by putting the new dumbass who is just as bad as Blago to run the state.



unfortunately, those voters are now paying for all this and that is fine. what should happen is all those who voted for Blago...should now pay for putting them there.



When I saw the states attorney say it is a win for the citizens of this state...no...it was just another loss in a string of idiot decisions.



Thanks! Assholes!



Plus one from me as well.
 

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You're all welcome in Georgia. Just don't talk about the war.
 

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You're all welcome in Georgia. Just don't talk about the war.



The war of Northern Aggression. Fucking Yankee bastards. The south shall rise again!!



Wait I'm from the North, **** YOU SOUTH WE WON SUCK IT
 

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You're all welcome in Georgia. Just don't talk about the war.





Are people actually like that? They fought a war to preserve slavery, how could any modern person have pride in that legacy.
 

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Are people actually like that? They fought a war to preserve slavery, how could any modern person have pride in that legacy.



I live in a suburban area, so most people here aren't like that. In the sticks, though, there are Confederate flags out the wazoo.



And down here, we didn't fight the war over slavery, we fought it over state's rights.
 

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I live in a suburban area, so most people here aren't like that. In the sticks, though, there are Confederate flags out the wazoo.



And down here, we didn't fight the war over slavery, we fought it over state's rights.



Yeah they always leave that part out of the history books. I've read some articles that said the south was right
 

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Yeah they always leave that part out of the history books. I've read some articles that said the south was right



I can kinda see their point; look how bloated and corrupt and craptacular the Federal Government is these days.



BUT



Slavery is abhorrent and I'm glad it was outlawed as a result of the North winning the war.
 

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I live in a suburban area, so most people here aren't like that. In the sticks, though, there are Confederate flags out the wazoo.



And down here, we didn't fight the war over slavery, we fought it over state's rights.





That's kind of pulling teeth, as the specific right of the state that was being threatened was the right to the institution of slavery. In fact it had less to do with slavery in the north than it did in the south. The South seceded over the mere "fear" of the federal government outlawing slavery in the south. I would argue had the south not seceded slavery would have lasted a good deal longer. The Union fought merely to preserve the Union, of course they eventually said **** it, free the slaves. The fed invaded the south because they rebelled, the south rebelled out of fear of abolition.



Maybe im wrong, but you are welcome to point out any other states rights the North may have had the mind to violate other than the right to be a slave state, and I say that because I honestly don't know if the federal government was violating states rights in any other department prior to the outbreak of war. If that is it, at that point the states rights argument is frankly hooey.
 

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That's kind of pulling teeth, as the specific right of the state that was being threatened was the right to the institution of slavery. In fact it had less to do with slavery in the north than it did in the south. The South seceded over the mere "fear" of the federal government outlawing slavery in the south. I would argue had the south not seceded slavery would have lasted a good deal longer. The Union fought merely to preserve the Union, of course they eventually said **** it, free the slaves. The fed invaded the south because they rebelled, the south rebelled out of fear of abolition.



Maybe im wrong, but you are welcome to point out any other states rights the North may have had the mind to violate other than the right to be a slave state, and I say that because I honestly don't know if the federal government was violating states rights in any other department prior to the outbreak of war. If that is it, at that point the states rights argument is frankly hooey.



I fully agree, but that's probably the only way to justify "We fought a war to keep people enslaved."



There was precedent re: Gov't infringing on state's rights though: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nullification_Crisis
 

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That's kind of pulling teeth, as the specific right of the state that was being threatened was the right to the institution of slavery. In fact it had less to do with slavery in the north than it did in the south. The South seceded over the mere "fear" of the federal government outlawing slavery in the south. I would argue had the south not seceded slavery would have lasted a good deal longer. The Union fought merely to preserve the Union, of course they eventually said **** it, free the slaves. The fed invaded the south because they rebelled, the south rebelled out of fear of abolition.



Maybe im wrong, but you are welcome to point out any other states rights the North may have had the mind to violate other than the right to be a slave state, and I say that because I honestly don't know if the federal government was violating states rights in any other department prior to the outbreak of war. If that is it, at that point the states rights argument is frankly hooey.





The tenth amendment says otherwise

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.



If the power is not expressly given to the Federal Government in the Constitution the matter is a state matter.
 

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The tenth amendment says otherwise





If the power is not expressly given to the Federal Government in the Constitution the matter is a state matter.



But the broad interpretation of the Interstate Commerce Clause almost nullifies the 10th Amendment.
 

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But the broad interpretation of the Interstate Commerce Clause almost nullifies the 10th Amendment.



Touche



Yeah I know of it but day was the first time reading the text, damn that is really fricken vague.



Okay let's reanimate the founding fathers and ask them what the hell they meant and settle it.
 

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SPRINGFIELD (WIFR) -- The Illinois Supreme Court has suspended former Governor Rod Blagojevich's law license until further notice.
 

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