Bulls Goin After Brandon Roy

[CODE_BLUE56]

Originally Posted by BigP50
Trade Noah, Taj + 29 for Tyreke Evans and the 5.

you do realize how dumb this trade idea is right????????

yeah lets give away our beast center & carlos replacement for a 2 guard

yeah lets **** up the entire team to get a 2 guard :smh: x10000000

noah has a terrible contract

the only thing he really brings to the team is defense and passing

the passing benefits he gives are negated because tyreke can create his own shot and pass

and it's like you people don't even realize there's another part to the trade, the 5th pick

which could be used to get a defensive minded big man like drummond or robinson, who is no slouch defensively

so that makes up a little for losing noah and taj

next, you get rid of a couple of players to make some room to sign or trade for a solid backup big man(the trade could include rip and watson, and what ever you want to throw in ideally)


i dont get how getting rid of a center who is constantly benched in the 4th quarter and has a terrible contract, and trading a young,defensive minded backup(which would be a loss, but it can be had) is "blowing up the entire team"

 

[USCChiFan]

I still doubt that the Kings accept that, mostly because of Noah's contract

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

I still doubt that the Kings accept that, mostly because of Noah's contract

that's the draw back

the kings do need defense in the post and that's what taj and noah would give them,though

 

[WindyCity7]

that's the draw back

the kings do need defense in the post and that's what taj and noah would give them,though

so they would have cousins noah & taj :fist: cmon man

 

[Crystallas]

I wouldn't say no to a dirt cheap Brandon Roy. But I want to know what he's doing, and far he has come in rehabilitation.

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

so they would have cousins noah & taj :fist: cmon man

not sure what your point is here

 

[WindyCity7]

noah has a terrible contract

the only thing he really brings to the team is defense and passing

the passing benefits he gives are negated because tyreke can create his own shot and pass

and it's like you people don't even realize there's another part to the trade, the 5th pick

which could be used to get a defensive minded big man like drummond or robinson, who is no slouch defensively

so that makes up a little for losing noah and taj

next, you get rid of a couple of players to make some room to sign or trade for a solid backup big man(the trade could include rip and watson, and what ever you want to throw in ideally)


i dont get how getting rid of a center who is constantly benched in the 4th quarter and has a terrible contract, and trading a young,defensive minded backup(which would be a loss, but it can be had) is "blowing up the entire team"

a bad contract, a rookie & evans ability to make his own shot honestly will make up for losing taj & noah?

AM I MISSING SOMETHING HERE?

 

[WindyCity7]

not sure what your point is here

glue not sticky

 

[WindyCity7]

I wouldn't say no to a dirt cheap Brandon Roy. But I want to know what he's doing, and far he has come in rehabilitation.

exactly


if hes healthy id be all over it

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

glue not sticky

um,what?

 

[nwfisch]

Getting paid 8 figures to pound chests, six shooters, long hair and stuff isn't conducive to an NBA title.

 

[clonetrooper264]

I don't think Noah's contract is as horrible as Code is making it out to be. He's making like...12 million a year? That's pretty much market value for decent big men these days. I'd still say Deng's contract is worse even though it's shorter.

That said, I don't think giving up Noah AND Taj would only net us the #5 and Evans if we pushed a little. Perhaps they'd sign and trade Jason Thompson to us as well. Considering that only just weeks ago we were saying that Noah and #29 straight up could get us Evans and the #5 idk why we'd have to throw in Taj as well.

 

[WindyCity7]

Getting paid 8 figures to pound chests, six shooters, long hair and stuff isn't conducive to an NBA title.

Que?

 

[clonetrooper264]

Getting paid 8 figures to pound chests, six shooters, long hair and stuff isn't conducive to an NBA title.

And rebound...and play defense...and pass really well from the C position...

Nope none of that matters either.

 

[Axl Rose]

i cant believe ppl are shitting on noah and wanna trade him for bum ass tyreke evans and a pick

yeah hes no Hakeem but c'mon

 

[nwfisch]

Que?

Noah's getting paid too much as a role player.

I love Noah and what he provides.

At the same time, I hate his salary, and his limited offensive game.

I don't think Noah can be the starting center on a Bulls championship team.

I WANT Noah to succeed as a fan.

I PREDICT he won't.

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

a bad contract, a rookie & evans ability to make his own shot honestly will make up for losing taj & noah?

AM I MISSING SOMETHING HERE?

you completely read this wrong

first of all noah has the bad contract, not tyreke

correct me if i'm wrong, i think tyreke will make around 5 mil next year, noah will make around 11

evans is great at getting to the rim and scoring, a good creator and a good passer

the bulls need another player to create to accentuate the offense...tyreke would ideal with rose out because he can learn the schemes of the team before rose comes back...so he wouldn't be learning while trying to co-exist with rose

evans is also quite a bit better than either noah or taj

you also completely forgot about the part where other moves are made to get another big man besides drummond/robinson(who,yes, are rookies but do you really think they couldn't get close to adequately replacing taj) in the hypothetical move by trading rip and some other pieces

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

i cant believe ppl are shitting on noah and wanna trade him for bum ass tyreke evans and a pick

yeah hes no Hakeem but c'mon

you criticize people for shitting on noah, then you call tyreke a bum ass?

if a player isn't that great on the bulls and people rightly criticize:"Guys, seriously stop criticizing!"

if a player is good but has some drawbacks on another team:"he's a bum ass"

 

[Axl Rose]

noahs contract is market value

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

And rebound...and play defense...and pass really well from the C position...

Nope none of that matters either.

tyreke can create on offense, get to the rack, and pass well

he changes the dynamic the offense, i think that adequately

rebounding isn't a big issue really..noah takes away some rebounds from boozer

tyreke is also a decent rebounder for his position and has height

the bulls would be fine rebounding wise

asik isn't a bad rebounder, and neither are drummond/robinson

the real replacement needed is defense, getting a guy like drummond/robinson would help

asik isn't a slouch on D either, of course asik isn't really a starter either so:shrug:

i know you're going to say "i wasn't completely serious"

i know..i just like to clarify