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According to a radio program last night, because he was tried in juvenile court not as an adult, had he got the mandatory 20 years, he would have served @ 2 years then been released when he turned 18. The 10 years probation apparently extends past the magical 18 year old until he is 26. Still fucked up, should have been tried as an adult and done real jail time.</p>
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And Texas hardly has a monopoly on fucked judges and trials</p>
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And Texas hardly has a monopoly on fucked judges and trials</p>
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So they let this kid off, and execute innocent people! I am TOTALLY moving there!</p>
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According to a radio program last night, because he was tried in juvenile court not as an adult, had he got the mandatory 20 years, he would have served @ 2 years then been released when he turned 18. The 10 years probation apparently extends past the magical 18 year old until he is 26. Still fucked up, should have been tried as an adult and done real jail time.</p>
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And Texas hardly has a monopoly on fucked judges and trials</p>
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Agree with this. Messed up but then again he was a minor. Had he been 18 I bet we would be looking at a very different sentencing.</p>
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I doubt the stupid defense had little to do with the judge's sentencing but it makes for a great headline.</p>
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According to a radio program last night, because he was tried in juvenile court not as an adult, had he got the mandatory 20 years, he would have served @ 2 years then been released when he turned 18. The 10 years probation apparently extends past the magical 18 year old until he is 26. Still fucked up, should have been tried as an adult and done real jail time.</p>
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And Texas hardly has a monopoly on fucked judges and trials</p>
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Agree with this. Messed up but then again he was a minor. Had he been 18 I bet we would be looking at a very different sentencing.</p>
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I doubt the stupid defense had little to do with the judge's sentencing but it makes for a great headline.</p>
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Agree with this. Messed up but then again he was a minor. Had he been 18 I bet we would be looking at a very different sentencing.</p>
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I doubt the stupid defense had little to do with the judge's sentencing but it makes for a great headline.</p>
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So you are saying no kid ever had the book thrown at them for a similar situation? You know, like someone NOT from a rich family.</p>
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Agree with this. Messed up but then again he was a minor. Had he been 18 I bet we would be looking at a very different sentencing.</p>
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I doubt the stupid defense had little to do with the judge's sentencing but it makes for a great headline.</p>
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So you are saying no kid ever had the book thrown at them for a similar situation? You know, like someone NOT from a rich family.</p>
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I can't wait till everyone starts claiming that due to poor upbringing it prevents children from understanding the links between their behavior and the consequences because they are rarely held accountable for their actions.</p>
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I can't wait till everyone starts claiming that due to poor upbringing it prevents children from understanding the links between their behavior and the consequences because they are rarely held accountable for their actions.</p>
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What is there to worry about? Not like this country's judicial branch from federal to local is based on precedence...</p>
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Perhaps we can just label this the "Couch Defense". </p>
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I can't wait till everyone starts claiming that due to poor upbringing it prevents children from understanding the links between their behavior and the consequences because they are rarely held accountable for their actions.</p>
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What is there to worry about? Not like this country's judicial branch from federal to local is based on precedence...</p>
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Perhaps we can just label this the "Couch Defense". </p>
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I think defense lawyers have been playing the troubled child/poor environment/broken home card long before this case...</p>
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I think defense lawyers have been playing the troubled child/poor environment/broken home card long before this case...</p>
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But never has the aliment "<span style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">affluenza" been successful for rich kids to get off. </span></p>
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<span style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">The only thing as dumb was 'Black Rage Insanity" and that has never been successful. Although to be fair, I believe that this is a part of the "Insanity" plea.</span></p>
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<span>​Economic Deprivation has also never been successfully used as a defense, but now, Economic Endowment IS legit. </span></p>
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I think defense lawyers have been playing the troubled child/poor environment/broken home card long before this case...</p>
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But never has the aliment "<span style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">affluenza" been successful for rich kids to get off. </span></p>
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<span style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">The only thing as dumb was 'Black Rage Insanity" and that has never been successful. Although to be fair, I believe that this is a part of the "Insanity" plea.</span></p>
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<span>​Economic Deprivation has also never been successfully used as a defense, but now, Economic Endowment IS legit. </span></p>
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My only hope is that this gets challenged at a higher level and is struck down.</p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="LordKOTL" data-cid="217028" data-time="1387213066">
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My only hope is that this gets challenged at a higher level and is struck down.</p>
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Double Jeopardy. </p>
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I am gonna hope on Karma to smite his ging ass.</p>
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My only hope is that this gets challenged at a higher level and is struck down.</p>
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Double Jeopardy. </p>
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I am gonna hope on Karma to smite his ging ass.</p>
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Let me rephrase.</p>
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I hope that some other case tries to use this "Chewbacca Defense", and it goes to a higher level, and gets permanently struck down. I know this specific case can't be retried.</p>
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I hope that some other case tries to use this "Chewbacca Defense", and it goes to a higher level, and gets permanently struck down. I know this specific case can't be retried.</p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="LordKOTL" data-cid="217034" data-time="1387213985">
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Let me rephrase.</p>
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I hope that some other case tries to use this "Chewbacca Defense", and it goes to a higher level, and gets permanently struck down. I know this specific case can't be retried.</p>
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Ah gotcha! Agreed!!</p>
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I mean, everyone knows the size of the wallet is directly proportionate to quality of defense. But this, it just smacks you in the face with it. Doesnt even care to keep up illusions of justice without $$.</p>
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Let me rephrase.</p>
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I hope that some other case tries to use this "Chewbacca Defense", and it goes to a higher level, and gets permanently struck down. I know this specific case can't be retried.</p>
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Ah gotcha! Agreed!!</p>
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I mean, everyone knows the size of the wallet is directly proportionate to quality of defense. But this, it just smacks you in the face with it. Doesnt even care to keep up illusions of justice without $$.</p>
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<span style="color:#800080;">poor people exist only to serve the whims of the rich know your place slave</span></p>
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The whole legal system as it is, is completely fucked up.
Sex offenders get a year or so in jail, drug dealers get 5+.
Makes total sense.
Sex offenders get a year or so in jail, drug dealers get 5+.
Makes total sense.
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The whole legal system as it is, is completely fucked up.
Sex offenders get a year or so in jail, drug dealers get 5+.
Makes total sense.</p>
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In some states, a lb of kush is still the same sentance as rape.</p>
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But in a way, it does make sense. </p>
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Prison, Inc is not interested in recidivism or using a punishment system to model and shape US culture and humanity. They WANT people to recommit. They WANT laws like mandatory minimum sentencing and 3 Strike laws. They WANT folks who get out in impossible cultural and social scenarios so there is no avenue but crime. It works for politicians too... It is so easy to fuel this industry and look awesome...er...tough on crime, a political no-brainer. </p>
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I know I know, tin foil hat, right?</p>
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Prison, Inc is a 75 billion dollar a year industry. That is higher than the GDP of over 100 countries. Think anyone is interested in keeping this since it fueled by private industry and share-holders?</p>
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As in "All the President's Men", I truly believe to understand the bulk of US culture and industry, "Follow the Money".</p>
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The whole legal system as it is, is completely fucked up.
Sex offenders get a year or so in jail, drug dealers get 5+.
Makes total sense.</p>
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In some states, a lb of kush is still the same sentance as rape.</p>
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But in a way, it does make sense. </p>
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Prison, Inc is not interested in recidivism or using a punishment system to model and shape US culture and humanity. They WANT people to recommit. They WANT laws like mandatory minimum sentencing and 3 Strike laws. They WANT folks who get out in impossible cultural and social scenarios so there is no avenue but crime. It works for politicians too... It is so easy to fuel this industry and look awesome...er...tough on crime, a political no-brainer. </p>
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I know I know, tin foil hat, right?</p>
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Prison, Inc is a 75 billion dollar a year industry. That is higher than the GDP of over 100 countries. Think anyone is interested in keeping this since it fueled by private industry and share-holders?</p>
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As in "All the President's Men", I truly believe to understand the bulk of US culture and industry, "Follow the Money".</p>
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In some states, a lb of kush is still the same sentance as rape.</p>
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But in a way, it does make sense. </p>
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Prison, Inc is not interested in recidivism or using a punishment system to model and shape US culture and humanity. They WANT people to recommit. They WANT laws like mandatory minimum sentencing and 3 Strike laws. They WANT folks who get out in impossible cultural and social scenarios so there is no avenue but crime. It works for politicians too... It is so easy to fuel this industry and look awesome...er...tough on crime, a political no-brainer. </p>
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I know I know, tin foil hat, right?</p>
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Prison, Inc is a 75 billion dollar a year industry. That is higher than the GDP of over 100 countries. Think anyone is interested in keeping this since it fueled by private industry and share-holders?</p>
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As in "All the President's Men", I truly believe to understand the bulk of US culture and industry, "Follow the Money".</p>
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It's easier to farm work domestically to "work" programs (cheaper than overseas-- cuts costs on importing back to the states).
Especially when they pay inmates 21 cents/hour for labor.</p>
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In some states, a lb of kush is still the same sentance as rape.</p>
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But in a way, it does make sense. </p>
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Prison, Inc is not interested in recidivism or using a punishment system to model and shape US culture and humanity. They WANT people to recommit. They WANT laws like mandatory minimum sentencing and 3 Strike laws. They WANT folks who get out in impossible cultural and social scenarios so there is no avenue but crime. It works for politicians too... It is so easy to fuel this industry and look awesome...er...tough on crime, a political no-brainer. </p>
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I know I know, tin foil hat, right?</p>
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Prison, Inc is a 75 billion dollar a year industry. That is higher than the GDP of over 100 countries. Think anyone is interested in keeping this since it fueled by private industry and share-holders?</p>
</p>
As in "All the President's Men", I truly believe to understand the bulk of US culture and industry, "Follow the Money".</p>
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It's easier to farm work domestically to "work" programs (cheaper than overseas-- cuts costs on importing back to the states).
Especially when they pay inmates 21 cents/hour for labor.</p>
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Aint over yet folks!!</p>
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http://www.gadailynews.com/news/regional/197743-affluenza-crash-ethan-couch-s-family-sued-by-paralyzed-teenager-for-20m.html</p>
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Affluenza' crash Ethan Couch's family sued by paralyzed teenager for $20m
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EVEN BETTER! Hit em where it REALLY hurts!! WHOO!!!</p>
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http://www.gadailynews.com/news/regional/197743-affluenza-crash-ethan-couch-s-family-sued-by-paralyzed-teenager-for-20m.html</p>
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Affluenza' crash Ethan Couch's family sued by paralyzed teenager for $20m
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EVEN BETTER! Hit em where it REALLY hurts!! WHOO!!!</p>
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I was told as a little kid common sense is the least common of all senses. As I grow older it gets truer every day. This kid should have had the book thrown at him. I dont give a flying rats **** that this kid doesnt know the consequences of his actions. Shame on the parents for that. It wasn't like the kid was driving hit black ice and did everything he could to avoid it and bad shit just happened, no this little douche was drunk and killed 4 people.</p>
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**** it throw his parents in jail too for not teaching him life has consequences.</p>
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**** it throw his parents in jail too for not teaching him life has consequences.</p>
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Well, if this civil case hits and they win? And seeing that one of the victims has a medical bill so far in the 7 figures that ANY jury is going to give anyway...</p>
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If 20 mill get award, you have done something to a rich person far worse than prison. You will make them poor. </p>
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I mean, I dont KNOW for sure as I think I read this family's income was like 6 mill a year, but 20 mill in straight hard assets is a HUGE hit. </p>
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If 20 mill get award, you have done something to a rich person far worse than prison. You will make them poor. </p>
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I mean, I dont KNOW for sure as I think I read this family's income was like 6 mill a year, but 20 mill in straight hard assets is a HUGE hit. </p>
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