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Marcus Kruger is playing in Sweden this coming season. He will come over to North America for the 2011-2012 season.

Also why do you have 3 centers in your top 6? Unless you planned on putting Sharpy back at the wing? I think Sharp stays at center...possibly with Hossa and Stalberg on his wings. Bolland is the 3rd line center. Keeping Sharp at center and not having Kruger on the roster opens up a spot for a winger...possibly Igor Makarov who recently signed for 550k?
 

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In a perfect world that would work, and it might depending on arbitration.

Seabrook is iffy to me, I love the guy, but he is going to want close to Keith money and im not sure if they do that. Now if they can trade Campbell, hell yea sign Seabs up for the long haul and we are golden.

Yeah I think one of the top 4 will be moved by next off-season, and I don't think Hjalmarsson or Keith be be going anywhere. As said, moving Campbell is the first hope, especially with the Hawks having a few PMD's in the system...but there's still the problem of his bad contract and his very limited NTC.

It might have to be Seebs that goes. I'm guessing he will get around 5 mil per, and while that's fair, it's probably not doable for the Hawks if we are stuck with Campbell.

Also next year we may have some really nice defensemen coming up. This coming season will probably see Lalonde and Vichnevskiy come up to some degree, with those guys probably sticking for good with the Hawks by the season after.

And then there's Leddy and Olsen. When will those guys be ready? Next year may happen, though the year after is probably a bit more likely. Both of those guys should be top 4 defensemen when the dust settles.
 

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I played around with that same site about a week ago, and the concern is what happens if one of the minimum salary types gets injured and there is not another comparable salary in the minors - there is a situation it seems, that conceivably you could be faced with a situation where I guy making more than the guy that went down was making which sort of seemed to mess with the lineup -which might be a concern being so near the top of the salary cap.
 

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So we can afford 1 injury all season with only 19 skaters on the active roster and no cap room for another player to come up?

I am sorry I like your attempt at his but this is not a viable option, in an 82 game season you expect no less than only 1 injury at a time? I can promise you Stan Bowman will carry 22 skaters on the active roster as well as have cap space on top of that for injuries.
 

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^This.

Also I dont see Bickell signing a multi-year deal at 500k.
 

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I would also like to point out to everyone that is calling for Brian Campbell to be traded that it is not possible. You could try and call the Islanders and other teams who have not even hit the cap floor yet and offer to give him away for nothing (future prospects) and it would not happen. Do you guys really think Stan did not look at his highest paid player as being our 4th defensemen and not try and move him at any cost? His salary and years with the NHL strict contract rules make it so no one wants him because of his long term inflated contract.

Also our abundance of fast offensive defensive prospects (Vishnevskiy, Lalonde, Leddy) make Campbell even more expendable even though he is an asset he is not near worth 7 million a season. Unless he has a spectacular season next year and draws interest from teams he could be the reason we are unable to resign Brent Seabrook next year, but I am getting ahead of myself.
 

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Let's worry about this season first...lol
 

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Bickell is all but guaranteed a roster spot. I expect reasoner to be in Rockford/traded by the beginning of the season

Completely incorrect and completely wasteful. He is a NHLer. Traded, sure.
 

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Marcus Kruger is playing in Sweden this coming season. He will come over to North America for the 2011-2012 season.

Also why do you have 3 centers in your top 6? Unless you planned on putting Sharpy back at the wing? I think Sharp stays at center...possibly with Hossa and Stalberg on his wings. Bolland is the 3rd line center. Keeping Sharp at center and not having Kruger on the roster opens up a spot for a winger...possibly Igor Makarov who recently signed for 550k?

Is that for sure on Kruger? From everything I read about him, Bowman has been really impressed and he has an outside shot at making the team.

As far as top 6 goes, sorry about the confusion, I meant those would be the best 6 forwards on our team, not that would be our top 2 lines. And I think Keeping Sharpie at C is a good idea as well.

Yeah I think one of the top 4 will be moved by next off-season, and I don't think Hjalmarsson or Keith be be going anywhere. As said, moving Campbell is the first hope, especially with the Hawks having a few PMD's in the system...but there's still the problem of his bad contract and his very limited NTC.

It might have to be Seebs that goes. I'm guessing he will get around 5 mil per, and while that's fair, it's probably not doable for the Hawks if we are stuck with Campbell.

Also next year we may have some really nice defensemen coming up. This coming season will probably see Lalonde and Vichnevskiy come up to some degree, with those guys probably sticking for good with the Hawks by the season after.

And then there's Leddy and Olsen. When will those guys be ready? Next year may happen, though the year after is probably a bit more likely. Both of those guys should be top 4 defensemen when the dust settles.

Ive been saying since the tail end of last year, that Seabrook could be used as bait. He has a top of value right now and is going to demand a pretty good contract. As you state the Hawks have a ton of young defensive talent down in the minors, so its not like that cupboard is bare.

I played around with that same site about a week ago, and the concern is what happens if one of the minimum salary types gets injured and there is not another comparable salary in the minors - there is a situation it seems, that conceivably you could be faced with a situation where I guy making more than the guy that went down was making which sort of seemed to mess with the lineup -which might be a concern being so near the top of the salary cap.

That is a very good point, and one that I was not paying attention to when I was doing this. Although the Hawks do have some contracts down in the AHL that if they were brought up they would not damage the cap.

So we can afford 1 injury all season with only 19 skaters on the active roster and no cap room for another player to come up?

I am sorry I like your attempt at his but this is not a viable option, in an 82 game season you expect no less than only 1 injury at a time? I can promise you Stan Bowman will carry 22 skaters on the active roster as well as have cap space on top of that for injuries.

I would agree that that is probably the way its going to shake down. This was an attempt to keep Sharp, and re-sign Niemi while being under the cap. If Niemi were to come in at 2mil in arbitration the Hawks could afford another 500-600k contract. It really all depends on what Niemi gets.
 

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Completely incorrect and completely wasteful. He is a NHLer. Traded, sure.

I agree. Many people probably look at Marty's career stats and call him a bum when he is a John Madden type player. He is a checking specialist who also wins a lot of draws and there is a reason he has found steady work on an NHL roster the last 11 years. He is an asset and Coach Quenneville speaks very highly of him from there days together in St. Louis.
 

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Is that for sure on Kruger? From everything I read about him, Bowman has been really impressed and he has an outside shot at making the team.

He said something that it was best for him to remain another year at Djurgarden. I know talk is cheap, but he sure made it sound like he, himself, wasn't ready for the NHL and that he had more to do in Sweden.
 
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He said something that it was best for him to remain another year at Djurgarden. I know talk is cheap, but he sure made it sound like he, himself, wasn't ready for the NHL and that he had more to do in Sweden.

Hmmm, looks like we will back to the drawing board tonight..lol.
 

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Completely incorrect and completely wasteful. He is a NHLer. Traded, sure.

Huet anyone?

Im just saying that he would be one of the firsts to be put down over kopecky. Im not calling him a bum, im calling him too much salary for a team on a strict budget
 

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Huet anyone?

Im just saying that he would be one of the firsts to be put down over kopecky. Im not calling him a bum, im calling him too much salary for a team on a strict budget

Yikes. But there is really no reason to send him down because unlike Huet, Reasoner will perform in his niche and do well.
 

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Yikes. But there is really no reason to send him down because unlike Huet, Reasoner will perform in his niche and do well.

OK, maybe I should explain.

NHL'ers are sometimes forced to be in the AHL for cap reasons, which is what I can see happening to Reasoner. Do I want it to happen? NO, but it may just because of our budget.


Btw, in no way am I saying Huet does his job like Reasoner can at the NHL level because that is just dumb to say. lol
 

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OK, maybe I should explain.

NHL'ers are sometimes forced to be in the AHL for cap reasons, which is what I can see happening to Reasoner. Do I want it to happen? NO, but it may just because of our budget.


Btw, in no way am I saying Huet does his job like Reasoner can at the NHL level because that is just dumb to say. lol

If you send him down, you won't see him back with the club at any point in the season. If he were to be needed because of injury, he will definitely get picked up on re-entry waivers by some other club at half the price (which the other half will result in more dead cap space for the Hawks). Besides, there are plenty of teams who would like to have him at his full cap hit.

If there's a budget concern, he will be traded not sent to Rockford. Sending him to the AHL is horrid asset management. While he doesn't have glorious points, he really is an asset.
 

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If you send him down, you won't see him back with the club at any point in the season. If he were to be needed because of injury, he will definitely get picked up on re-entry waivers by some other club at half the price (which the other half will result in more dead cap space for the Hawks). Besides, there are plenty of teams who would like to have him at his full cap hit.

If there's a budget concern, he will be traded not sent to Rockford. Sending him to the AHL is horrid asset management. While he doesn't have glorious points, he really is an asset.

I got ya.

In all honestly, I want Reasoner on the team and hope he gets a roster spot.

What do you think are his chances?
 

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Hmmm, looks like we will back to the drawing board tonight..lol.

haha. Keep Sharpie in the lineups; Bowman finally can be quoted that he [Sharp] "is not going anywhere" (as we expected).
 

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Just made a thread on it Iago
 

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