Castro, LaHair are 2012 Cubs All-Stars

[dabynsky]

It's not Omar Infante bad or even Mark Redman bad, but choosing Bryan LaHair makes me even though I'm a Cubs fan :lol:

As the ASG manager I'd switch Beltran to 1B for sure, but I know that TLR is probably just going to have to play LaHair at 1B to start. Having a starting 1B who plays for the worst club in the majors who isn't actually that good anymore does annoy me though.

Placido Polanco was elected the starting 3B. The ASG is and always will be pointless. The it counts stuff doesn't make it compelling nor is it the worst thing in the world since the performance of teams in the World Series has never been the determining factor for homefield advantage.

 

[Rice Cube]

Placido Polanco was elected the starting 3B. The ASG is and always will be pointless. The it counts stuff doesn't make it compelling nor is it the worst thing in the world since the performance of teams in the World Series has never been the determining factor for homefield advantage.

Actually it kind of makes sense to let the shitty voted-by-fans guys start the game and then replace them with the players who are actually good. So let LaHair start and then put in a better 1B

 

[dabynsky]

I get the outrage over LaHair being chosen given that it was driven entirely by a hot month and overall suckiness of NL 1B when two of the best switched leagues in the offseason. But seriously can we just enjoy the feel good nature of a guy like Crash LaHair getting a chance to start the ASG.

 

[dabynsky]

According to this, by rule LaHair would be the starter if Votto misses:

If Votto misses ASG because of knee (possible, says @ScottMCBS Lingering knee soreness could keep Joey Votto from All-Star Game - CBSSports.com), LaHair starts at 1B for NL, by MLB rule. Not up to mgr

 

[Jntg4]

LaHair starting? I think I might vomit

 

[dabynsky]

I'm in danger of completly changing my position on LaHair since Phil Rogers is now writing that he wasn't a bad choice.

 

[Rice Cube]

I get the outrage over LaHair being chosen given that it was driven entirely by a hot month and overall suckiness of NL 1B when two of the best switched leagues in the offseason. But seriously can we just enjoy the feel good nature of a guy like Crash LaHair getting a chance to start the ASG.

No

I would've preferred Goldschmidt, LaRoche, Allen Craig or even Corey Hart before picking LaHair to start. But rules be rules. At least that means we won't have to rely on LaHair in the late stages of the game when they're actually trying to determine home field advantage

 

[dabynsky]

I also don't get the outrage over that it determines homefield advatage. How is it any less "fair" than the old system of alternating between leagues? At least in this system players that are involved in the World Series will at least partially determine homefield advantage.

 

[Rice Cube]

I also don't get the outrage over that it determines homefield advatage. How is it any less "fair" than the old system of alternating between leagues? At least in this system players that are involved in the World Series will at least partially determine homefield advantage.

I believe they need to get rid of that once full-season interleague is set up next season though. By then you'll have a slightly more balanced interleague schedule (maybe) and it'll be easier to award homefield to the best overall team.

 

[dabynsky]

Again I just don't get the outrage over a fake game that is entirely about making money for a billion dollar industry. Whether it is why did so and so get picked over so and so or the it counts nonsense.

 

[FirstTimer]

Again I just don't get the outrage over a fake game that is entirely about making money for a billion dollar industry. Whether it is why did so and so get picked over so and so or the it counts nonsense.

Well the game does decide HFA for the World Series....so it's not really "fake".

But honestly if the game is about the "stars" no way in hell should a guy like LaHair be shoehorned in over someone like Bryce Harper.

 

[Rice Cube]

Again I just don't get the outrage over a fake game that is entirely about making money for a billion dollar industry. Whether it is why did so and so get picked over so and so or the it counts nonsense.

The outrage is because homefield is not being awarded due to games played on the field that actually count like in the other major sports. You would never seed the Raiders #1 or the AFC #1 just because Oakland won all of their meaningless preseason games before they tanked in the regular season. Leaving homefield advantage up to the chance that the lone Kansas City All-Star delivers a game-winning hit off of the lone Rockies All-Star (theoretical example here, mind you) is going to leave a major sour taste in one's mouth. Homefield should be awarded to the best team in the majors when the regular season concludes just as in every other sport.

 

[dabynsky]

Well the game does decide HFA for the World Series....so it's not really "fake".

But honestly if the game is about the "stars" no way in hell should a guy like LaHair be shoehorned in over someone like Bryce Harper.

It isn't a real game either when it is played in a way that is completely different from the regular season and postseason.

 

[dabynsky]

The outrage is because homefield is not being awarded due to games played on the field that actually count like in the other major sports. You would never seed the Raiders #1 or the AFC #1 just because Oakland won all of their meaningless preseason games before they tanked in the regular season. Leaving homefield advantage up to the chance that the lone Kansas City All-Star delivers a game-winning hit off of the lone Rockies All-Star (theoretical example here, mind you) is going to leave a major sour taste in one's mouth. Homefield should be awarded to the best team in the majors when the regular season concludes just as in every other sport.

But baseball has never done that. Why do people keep forgetting that?

 

[Rice Cube]

It isn't a real game either when it is played in a way that is completely different from the regular season and postseason.

Which is one of the many reasons why it shouldn't be used to decide homefield advantage.

 

[Jntg4]

NFL doesn't do it that way. Neutral field.

 

[dabynsky]

Which is one of the many reasons why it shouldn't be used to decide homefield advantage.

I've never said that it should, but since it replaced a system of alternating leagues I don't get why there is outrage over that fact since it seems about as "fair" to me.

 

[Rice Cube]

But baseball has never done that. Why do people keep forgetting that?

There were many things baseball had never done...

1. Throwing overhand
2. Allowing infield fly rule
3. The designated hitter
4. Instant replay review
5. Letting black people play

So therefore because baseball decided to be traditionally illogical they should keep right on doing it?

 

[FirstTimer]

But baseball has never done that. Why do people keep forgetting that?

And baseball was stupid then.

If you are going to do something wonky it should be based on what league wins the Interleague games.

 

[Rice Cube]

NFL doesn't do it that way. Neutral field.

In the Super Bowl one team is still allowed to be called the home team and it's entirely possible that the game is played on one of the team's home turf.