Castro's Error Thread (Countdown To 30!)

[Captain Obvious]

Brett, he said more. 50-60 more. So he is making all the plays the other guys are making, plus 50. Sure, he has more errors than them, but he gets to so many more balls that it really levels out.

 

[Jntg4]

I just thanked a post by Captain Obvious.

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

i agree with CO here..i think that castro is an adequate defender because he has ability to consistently make defensive plays, as well as some that the average SS cannot make

he does commit a bit of errors...but it does level out because his net production compared to other SSs is positive..his range allows him to compensate for his errors by making easily more if not twice more plays

that said, i wont consider him necessarily efficient or a good defender since he sacrifices defensive plays through his mistakes at a rate

 

[X]

Brett, he said more. 50-60 more. So he is making all the plays the other guys are making, plus 50. Sure, he has more errors than them, but he gets to so many more balls that it really levels out.

i'm still yet to see a stat that proves that.

 

[poodski]

i'm still yet to see a stat that proves that.

Really? RZR shows EXACTLY that.

Disclaimer: I'm not saying Castro has done that in just stating there is a stat that can (dis)prove that.

 

[X]

Really? RZR shows EXACTLY that.

Disclaimer: I'm not saying Castro has done that in just stating there is a stat that can (dis)prove that.

and does RZR say Castro makes 50+ plays a season the avg ss won't make?

 

[poodski]

I said disclaimer.

I honestly don't know how much more he makes than the average SS. I highly doubt he really makes 50 more.

I might have misunderstood why you were asking.

There is a stat that CAN prove or disprove the statement being thrown around.

 

[X]

I said disclaimer.

I honestly don't know how much more he makes than the average SS. I highly doubt he really makes 50 more.

I might have misunderstood why you were asking.

There is a stat that CAN prove or disprove the statement being thrown around.

But really, I thought one of those Sabre stats would tell something similar...but what does it actually say about Castro? I would imagine he's only slight above avg at this point in his career.

 

[Jntg4]

Ya, I'd put him at slightly above average defensively right now.

Funny that the Cubs called him up for defense instead of offense though, lol.

 

[poodski]

But really, I thought one of those Sabre stats would tell something similar...but what does it actually say about Castro? I would imagine he's only slight above avg at this point in his career.

You would be wrong.

He is slightly above completely awful at this point in his career.

Even his OOZ is pretty rough.

 

[X]

You would be wrong.

He is slightly above completely awful at this point in his career.

Even his OOZ is pretty rough.

lol, I was trying to be nice :shrug:

 

[poodski]

lol, I was trying to be nice :shrug:

I was trying to be funny.

 

[X]

I was trying to be funny.

i was gonna say something about how we suck together, but that sounds g.

 

[brett05]

Right now, Castro is way below average. Yeah he makes a great play and he boots a routine one or throws a souvenir for a fan.

 

[Jntg4]

Right now, Castro is way below average. Yeah he makes a great play and he boots a routine one or throws a souvenir for a fan.

I'd say he makes more plays on balls most players wouldn't get too than he makes errors...

I mean, to even things out, every ball Castro can get to that another player can't would equate to the same thing as an error for that player, but is a hit because they never touched it...

 

[brett05]

Errors and hits are not the same...errors cause dissention between fielder and pitcher

And I have seen plenty of balls below average guys get to that castro just doesn't

 

[poodski]

To jntg not brett

But you realize that's exactly what RZR is showing he doesn't do.

That stats are there to show he isn't nearly as good as some of you think.

He makes some great plays but he doesn't make as many as some think.

 

[brett05]

For my money give me a Ripken every day. He didn't make the spectacular play..he was always there int he first place. He would position himself based on batter, pitch count and pitch about to be thrown

 

[Jntg4]

I honestly don't care that much if he doesn't do well defensively because he more than makes up for it with his bat and he'll improve and be better by the time we are actually competing.

The Cubs don't have Starlin Castro playing Shortstop, Starlin Castro IS the Cubs.

 

[poodski]

I honestly don't care that much if he doesn't do well defensively because he more than makes up for it with his bat and he'll improve and be better by the time we are actually competing.

The Cubs don't have Starlin Castro playing Shortstop, Starlin Castro IS the Cubs.

I'm not disagreeing with that. Just simply stating what is there.

I definitely think he will get better both offensively and defensively.