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[houheffna]

Houheffna is somewhere in the back checking LBJ's moves out right?

And you are somewhere in a closet needing to come out and confess your homosexuality...idiot.

 

[houheffna]

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:marshmallow::elephant::facepalm2::rofl: uke:

You are not paying attention. Its about the game on the court. Quick...what position did Magic play again? Now that's turrible.

 

[Scoot26]

All star players want to pick their teammates... LeBron is the only player allowed to do so, and it's unprecedented. Furthermore, the players you mentioned that Jordan wanted to play with weren't stars. He didn't get Barkley or Malone in Chicago. He got got a few good role players, and that's it. Scottie Pippen is the truth, we're lucky he was a Bull. But we also know he won jack and shit after '98. Again, Scottie is one of the greatest of all times, but he earned that distinction under MJs purview.

The players I mentioned Jordan wanted to play with tells you how bad of a talent evaluator he is.

The Bulls won nothing after 98 because everyone left. Just like Jordan couldn't win without another star, Pippen could not as well do it by himself after Jordan retired in 93. The 94 Bulls were much like a Bulls team of Rose-Deng-Noah. Grant and BJ Armstrong were All-Stars in 94, but they weren't great by any measure.

LeBron is allowed to pick his players because ownership and GM management has allowed him to do so. As I explained before, Krause ignored Jordan and his requests. I'm assuming that is much the norm around the league as well. LeBron does not get ignored though. And as Hou said, Kevin Love could have said "FUCK NO I DONT WANT TO PLAY WITH LEBRON!" The thing is, Kevin Love does want to play with LeBron.

 

[ChiSoxCity]

The players I mentioned Jordan wanted to play with tells you how bad of a talent evaluator he is.

The Bulls won nothing after 98 because everyone left. Just like Jordan couldn't win without another star, Pippen could not as well do it by himself after Jordan retired in 93. The 94 Bulls were much like a Bulls team of Rose-Deng-Noah. Grant and BJ Armstrong were All-Stars in 94, but they weren't great by any measure.

LeBron is allowed to pick his players because ownership and GM management has allowed him to do so. As I explained before, Krause ignored Jordan and his requests. I'm assuming that is much the norm around the league as well. LeBron does not get ignored though. And as Hou said, Kevin Love could have said "FUCK NO I DONT WANT TO PLAY WITH LEBRON!" The thing is, Kevin Love does want to play with LeBron.

I'm not sure what you are trying to say here. Can you clarify please?

 

[JimJohnson]

And you are somewhere in a closet needing to come out and confess your homosexuality...idiot.

You first.

 

[payton 34ever]

He's supposed to be the best, why is he constantly trying to build super teams with overwhelming advantages? Is he not strong enough to fail under the constraints of normally constructed teams? Why is he so obsessed with teaming up with stars and simply relegating them to role players to elevate his "greatness?" Text-book narcissism, that's why. And like narcissists, if the team fails to win a championship, he will blame everyone but himself and walk away thanks to that 1-year contract he so conveniently "committed" to. Commitment is simply not in LeBron's DNA.

You know the answer to your second question: of course, it's "no". It's the whole reason he bailed on his "home" team and went to Miami and constructed his first "super team" in the first place. How short Cavs' fans memories are, I guess. So easy to forgive someone when your team is the one he's trading up to and not the one left behind, like you were in 2010, and like Miami is this time. You'd think they could at least sympathize with them, right?

You hit the nail on the head with the narcissism thing, too, by the way. The reason I hate LeBron has little to do with his play on the court (though the flopping and putting his head down and running people over while bitching for a call thing has gotten beyond annoying) - no, the reason I can't stand him is because it's not enough for him to just be a basketball player; he has to push his will on people, cry out for attention with events like the decision, essentially screaming "look at me, love me, worship me" to the world. Then he turns around when people criticize his flaws and wonders why he's looked at and scrutinized so closely. I can't stand celebrities/athletes that do that. Brittney Spears used to do that, too, so LeBron's got good company.

 

[Diddy1122]

I'm tired of the LBJ & MJ comparisons because there are NONE other than that they were both above and beyond the best player of their generation. That's it. MJ was cut from a different cloth than LeBron. MJ worked his ass off to be the GOAT, after being cut from his HS bball team early on. He made it his mission to prove every doubter wrong and to not only be the best, but to make sure every other great player knew he was the best by beating them on a nightly basis.

LeBron is a child of the AAU era. These child "stars" are pampered from an early age and have grown up already playing on these super traveling teams. It's no wonder that LeBron, Wade, Melo, and others have wanted to team up because that's what they've known since adolesence. To me, that has been the biggest deteriment to the competitive balance in the NBA. AAU ball has turned a generation of great players into looking for the easiest road to victory.

 

[Axl Rose]

MJ wasn't really cut lol

that was just a "feel good" story he fabricated

 

[houheffna]

I'm tired of the LBJ & MJ comparisons because there are NONE other than that they were both above and beyond the best player of their generation. That's it. MJ was cut from a different cloth than LeBron. MJ worked his ass off to be the GOAT, after being cut from his HS bball team early on. He made it his mission to prove every doubter wrong and to not only be the best, but to make sure every other great player knew he was the best by beating them on a nightly basis.

LeBron is a child of the AAU era. These child "stars" are pampered from an early age and have grown up already playing on these super traveling teams. It's no wonder that LeBron, Wade, Melo, and others have wanted to team up because that's what they've known since adolesence. To me, that has been the biggest deteriment to the competitive balance in the NBA. AAU ball has turned a generation of great players into looking for the easiest road to victory.

How long did Lebron James struggle in Cleveland? Where was his young nucleus...where was his Pippen, Grant, Phil Jackson, etc? Jordan had a HOF caliber general manager putting those teams together. How long was Lebron James supposed to wait? The second best player on the team was Mo Williams for crying out loud!

But my question is...did you want Lebron to come to Chicago?

 

[JimJohnson]

But my question is...did you want Lebron to come to Chicago?

Probably not as bad as you did, for obvious reasons.

 

[Axl Rose]

theres not one person on this board that would not support LeBron if he was recruiting all these guys to the Bulls

yeah it sucks that we're possibly gonna get shut out by Bron & friends once again but i cant be mad at him for wanting the best team around him

 

[payton 34ever]

I wouldn't. And no, I'm not joking. As a 35 year Bulls & NBA fan, I hate everything he and players like him stand for. If he were with the Bulls, I'd feel dirty rooting for him, let alone watching him win titles the way he does for a team I used to love with all my heart. I'm going to have a hard enough time stomaching McDermott after he abandoned my alma mater to lead a conference rival to glory and become one of the top scorers in NCAA history.

 

[houheffna]

I wouldn't. And no, I'm not joking. As a 35 year Bulls & NBA fan, I hate everything he and players like him stand for. If he were with the Bulls, I'd feel dirty rooting for him, let alone watching him win titles the way he does for a team I used to love with all my heart. I'm going to have a hard enough time stomaching McDermott after he abandoned my alma mater to lead a conference rival to glory and become one of the top scorers in NCAA history.

The whole league thinks the way he thinks. They all want to win...well, some more than others. But to say you don't want the best player in the league...by far, on your team because he gets up off of his ass and hustles to get players with him that will help him win...I don't get it.

 

[houheffna]

Probably not as bad as you did, for obvious reasons.

Do me a favor...block me...and I will block you. You act too much like a bitch to argue with anymore. You talk loud and say nothing...

 

[Axl Rose]

I wouldn't. And no, I'm not joking. As a 35 year Bulls & NBA fan, I hate everything he and players like him stand for. If he were with the Bulls, I'd feel dirty rooting for him, let alone watching him win titles the way he does for a team I used to love with all my heart. I'm going to have a hard enough time stomaching McDermott after he abandoned my alma mater to lead a conference rival to glory and become one of the top scorers in NCAA history.

what is the problem with LeBron?

you think hes a arrogant douche bag? if so then maybe you need to read up on MJ the guy was the ultimate asshole

if you're mad at him for wanting to have the best team around him then i don't really understand that beef

i guess you would rather joke about him not winning with bums like Larry Hughes calling him LeBronze and making silly 0 ring jokes

 

[payton 34ever]

what is the problem with LeBron?

you think hes a arrogant douche bag? if so then maybe you need to read up on MJ the guy was the ultimate asshole

if you're mad at him for wanting to have the best team around him then i don't really understand that beef

i guess you would rather joke about him not winning with bums like Larry Hughes calling him LeBronze and making silly 0 ring jokes

So, because MJ was an arrogant douchebag, that gives LeBron the right to be the same way? What does one person have to do with the other? Oh, because I'm a Bulls fan, I'm supposed to stick up for MJ at every turn and say that LeBron's being a narcissisitic ass is okay? If I had known half of what I know now about Michael Jordan while he was playing that I do now that his career is over and have had time to reflect and study the man further, I may not have loved those Bulls teams the way I did.

Anyway, it's my opinion - I don't understand why it's necessary for anyone here to try to convince me otherwise and why anyone would need to tell me how I should feel about the man. Keep on kissing his ass, I guess - I'm not going to - never liked him since he was an entitled high school player, and I probably never will. I'm 42 years old, and I don't like what the NBA has become; it's not the style of basketball I grew up watching, and it's become incredibly boring - and I'll readily admit that MJ plays a part in the league going that direction in the first place - focusing on the "I" rather than the team. What you get when the league endorses that is a handful of teams that have a superstar (or 3) that compete, and a vast multitude that are just "there" (Minnesota, New Orleans, Charlotte, etc.) that will never win anything. I'll just keep enjoying when teams play beautifully together as a unit with everyone filling a role and are masterfully coached (Spurs), and keep denying LeBron and his "entourage" another title.

 

[The Hawk]

I'm tired of the LBJ & MJ comparisons because there are NONE other than that they were both above and beyond the best player of their generation. That's it. MJ was cut from a different cloth than LeBron. MJ worked his ass off to be the GOAT, after being cut from his HS bball team early on. He made it his mission to prove every doubter wrong and to not only be the best, but to make sure every other great player knew he was the best by beating them on a nightly basis.

LeBron is a child of the AAU era. These child "stars" are pampered from an early age and have grown up already playing on these super traveling teams. It's no wonder that LeBron, Wade, Melo, and others have wanted to team up because that's what they've known since adolesence. To me, that has been the biggest deteriment to the competitive balance in the NBA. AAU ball has turned a generation of great players into looking for the easiest road to victory.

That was one excellent post!

 

[NCChiFan]

Please, Chicago , slam the door on this clown again next June.

Fixed.

 

[houheffna]

That was one excellent post!

So Derrick Rose goes on that list too?

 

[houheffna]

So, because MJ was an arrogant douchebag, that gives LeBron the right to be the same way? What does one person have to do with the other? Oh, because I'm a Bulls fan, I'm supposed to stick up for MJ at every turn and say that LeBron's being a narcissisitic ass is okay? If I had known half of what I know now about Michael Jordan while he was playing that I do now that his career is over and have had time to reflect and study the man further, I may not have loved those Bulls teams the way I did.

Anyway, it's my opinion - I don't understand why it's necessary for anyone here to try to convince me otherwise and why anyone would need to tell me how I should feel about the man. Keep on kissing his ass, I guess - I'm not going to - never liked him since he was an entitled high school player, and I probably never will. I'm 42 years old, and I don't like what the NBA has become; it's not the style of basketball I grew up watching, and it's become incredibly boring - and I'll readily admit that MJ plays a part in the league going that direction in the first place - focusing on the "I" rather than the team. What you get when the league endorses that is a handful of teams that have a superstar (or 3) that compete, and a vast multitude that are just "there" (Minnesota, New Orleans, Charlotte, etc.) that will never win anything. I'll just keep enjoying when teams play beautifully together as a unit with everyone filling a role and are masterfully coached (Spurs), and keep denying LeBron and his "entourage" another title.

Neither one cheated. I think the point is, if you don't like Lebron for that reason...you might as well stop watching the NBA, NFL, etc.