I agree. I think there’s real value in being able to trade back to the middle of the 1st or later. Hopefully, Sanders drops or some team gets fixated on Dart and is willing to pay the price to move up to 10.
Totally disagree about Williams.................He is not a project. He has size, length, and athleticism. As a pure pass rusher, he will require some patience. At this point he still tries to win every rep with power and athletic ability. He needs to be more consistent in his pass rushing technique, which with quality pro coaching is fixable. Williams has very flaws in the run game. He can stack and shed with the best college DEs.
I don't like the idea of drafting mediocre performance, but good combine players with a top pick. Do not draft a top pick based on "potential." Save the potential guys for lower rounds. You can find players with both production and athletic ability with a top 10 pick.
We can agree to disagree. There’s some potential there but the actual production is lacking, and it’s not like he tested exceptionally well either. His numbers are fine but yeah….hes basically a pure projection/potential pick. Want no part of him at 10.
Really......every rookie ever drafted was on potential.
One of the things that I like about Williams is he already has shown to have some developed pass rush tools that hes going to need at the NFL level: he has a nice single long arm, he has good arm chop and rip to the outside, and he also has a great swim inside that he uses as a counter when OTs overcommit. Compare that to one of his peers that is likely drafted in the same area WIlliams goes: Shemar Stewart - Stewart looks more athletically dominant on tape but he has no tools in his belt beyond "go through" or "go around" the guy in front of him. Mykel is a lot more NFL ready than I think hes being given credit for in this thread.
Why would we get a 2nd round back for only moving down 4 spots?
Green and Omarion Hampton both will be gone by #39, plus Green is undersized for our scheme.
That's what the mock offered me. <shrugs> I didn't check with a trade calculator to see if that's reasonable, I just took it. It was the Colts trading up to get Sanders QB, ahead of NOS? IDK.
Maybe. It's going to be a wild draft. Green was there. And you draft youth for depth to teach and set up for the future. It was the value pick there, BPA, IMO. BUT I didn't realize Dalman was only 26, thought he was older.
I think the lower we move down from #10, the more we get back. I think moving down with Seahawks to #18 could more likely get us back a 2nd in return. If we trade down with the Colts, I'd rather get WR Alec Pierce back instead of a draft pick.
Anyone can compare stats, but everyone doesn't have an eye for talent. You have to do more than compare guys based on in game production because they are all playing different levels of competition.
You cant be BPA in the second round if you don't fit the scheme. That's a day 3 strategy. In round 1 and 2 you aren't looking for developmental backups that might be good in 2-3 years, you want impact day 1 starters if possible.
Ryan Bates can play C too.
They arent giving up their best big play receiver.
I'm not convinced he has meaningful football left in his shoulder, despite what the marketing material of the company who sold him the stem cell procedure says. If he still has tread though that would really help the Bears.
That’s your opinion…and while stats definitely aren’t the end all be all, ignoring production when selecting in the top 10 is a mistake. You have to look at that and factor it in. Williams may end up developing, but he’s a big time project/projection pick.
