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Kyle Pitts 2021 first round #4 overall. This isn't 1985, teams are playing more 12 personnel than ever. It's OK to have more than 1 TE, especially since Kmet isn't Brock Bowers either.
Yes Kyle pitts is a great example of why to take an TE high
Speaking of the LOLions... In 2019 Ben Johnson was an Offensive Quality Control assistant for them, and guess what they did with the #8 pick of the first round. They drafted TJ Hockenson Tight end from Iowa. It's not about copying the sad ass Lions, its about putting as many weapons on the field as possible so that your creative HC/OC can create matchup problems that Defenses won't be able to solve.
and he was also there when they trade hock away.

Maybe the bears do take a TE that high but he has mentioned the bears offense is going to be designed around the bears, it is not going to be based around what they did with the lions.
 

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I got a feeling a few days ago too that we could draft Warren. If you're looking BPA then he might be the best pick but it sure would be a luxury pick.

I'm thinking Mykel Williams will be the pick at #10, or at least my preferred pick.
I agree...........Williams probably has the highest ceiling of any of the pure DEs in this draft.
 

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Latest CBS mock...

1. Nyg- Cam Ward
2. Cle- Travis Hunter
3. Tenn- Abdul Carter
4. Nep- Will Campbell
5. Jax- Mason Graham
6. Lvr- Ashton Jeanty
7. Nyj- Tetaiora McMillan
8. Car- Jihad Campbell
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...Thoughts?
I’m really starting to warm up to Tyler Warren as the pick. I think Jeanty at 6 is GOING to happen. I think there’ll be a couple of good rush ends in round two that can hold in run support. This seems to be the best pick.
 
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I’m really starting to warm up to this as the pick. I think Jeanty at 6 is GOING to happen. I think there’ll a couple of good rush ends in round two that can hold in run support. This seems to be the best pick.
Who? Warren?

I made a post in a thread earlier but it looks like it got deleted. It was talking about taking Golden at #10. So I'll re-type it here, cause it makes sense when considering any pass-catching position with #10.

I think it's a pretty safe bet to think that the Bears will have a similar target distribution as the Lions the last couple years. Just for time's sake, looking at last year, the Lions had 522 targets in the passing game total:

Amon-Ra had 141. Williams had 91. LaPorta had 83. Gibbs and Montgomery had 101 combined. That left only 106 for everyone else, Tim Patrick being the next highest at 44. #2 TE Brock Wright had 16 targets on the season. So where would any high-level pass catcher slot in without significantly cutting into the targets of anyone else? They wouldn't. You could expect Moore and Odunze to dominate targets from the WRs (as they should) while Kmet dominates TE targets and Swift + whoever else is at RB (probably a rookie of some sort) get those RB targets.

Pass catcher should probably not be in consideration until the 3rd round at the earliest where you're looking to bring in competition for Tyler Scott, at least at this point.
 

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Kyle Pitts 2021 first round #4 overall. This isn't 1985, teams are playing more 12 personnel than ever. It's OK to have more than 1 TE, especially since Kmet isn't Brock Bowers either.
If this was last year and it was Brock Bowers then yes but I'm guessing he's not.

It's a high risk position to draft that high but ultimately I just want a playmaker I don't care what position.
 

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too many fucking cooks in the kitchen

Ben johnson doesnt need 50 weapons. He legit used like 3 guys in detroit every year during his tenure there. The #2 TE and #3 WR were mostly just guys who created spacing/blocked

The only way this makes sense is if they trade cole kmet, which they are not doing. Ben Johnson will have him at pro bowl level production this year
 

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Quick question. How many teams had a borderline top 10 TE who was 26, then drafted another TE at #10.

This is why our fanbase is considered fucking stupid

I'd also like to note tight ends historically are one of the positions that take the longest to develop in the NFL. Warren is already about to be 23, he's only 3 years younger than cold cement.
 

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I got a feeling a few days ago too that we could draft Warren. If you're looking BPA then he might be the best pick but it sure would be a luxury pick.

I'm thinking Mykel Williams will be the pick at #10, or at least my preferred pick.
Williams has never had more than 5 sacks in a season. There may have been injury issues, but betting on potential is a mistake in the first round. Save potential picks for later rounds.
 

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Williams has never had more than 5 sacks in a season. There may have been injury issues, but betting on potential is a mistake in the first round. Save potential picks for later rounds.

There are numerous examples of great nfl rushers who did not have high sack production in college
 

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My preference is that there's a pass rusher they love and you go with that.

But barring that and assuming they love Warren, I think it's a fine pick.
 

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If this was last year and it was Brock Bowers then yes but I'm guessing he's not.

It's a high risk position to draft that high but ultimately I just want a playmaker I don't care what position.
DL's bust more than TE's. Same goes for CB's and WR's...

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Kmet has a career high of 107 yds receiving in a game and yet people are acting like he is this elite player that can't have his snaps affected by bringing in another playmaking TE. It's funny that the Patriots could make it work with Gronk and Hernandez... Perhaps people need to realize that Ben Johnson runs the same base offense that the Patriots ran... Erhardt-Perkins.
 

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I've got a bad 2014 Bears Draft vibe with Ryan Poles running the show.

Then gives over 14 million dollars a season to a 32 year old(in April) DT that was still such a difference maker at a vital position that Atlanta released him out right.
You serious about Grady? I take it you haven't read or hear what everyone everywhere has written or said about the Falcons' Kirk Cousins-sized cap hell? They HAD to create room by the league year deadline (were over 5M over the cap!) and Grady Jarrett was the only player on the roster they could release to get under the cap. They tried to extend him and get under the cap, but he and his agent said, "I love Y'all, and I'm from here, but no." He balled last year, and has been a baller his entire career.

So to recap ~ you clearly don't know what you're talking about.
 

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Yes Kyle pitts is a great example of why to take an TE high

and he was also there when they trade hock away.

Maybe the bears do take a TE that high but he has mentioned the bears offense is going to be designed around the bears, it is not going to be based around what they did with the lions.
That's like saying don't draft a QB high because Kenny Pickett was a bust. The game has changed and the GM and HC both have backgrounds with organizations that valued the TE position as a weapon that was heavily utilized. So it's not about copying the Lions or the Chiefs, its about giving the HC weapons to build an elite offense.
 

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DL's bust more than TE's. Same goes for CB's and WR's...

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Kmet has a career high of 107 yds receiving in a game and yet people are acting like he is this elite player that can't have his snaps affected by bringing in another playmaking TE. It's funny that the Patriots could make it work with Gronk and Hernandez... Perhaps people need to realize that Ben Johnson runs the same base offense that the Patriots ran... Erhardt-Perkins.

Yet his #2 TE last year played 51% of the snaps but only had 16 targets.
 
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That's like saying don't draft a QB high because Kenny Pickett was a bust. The game has changed and the GM and HC both have backgrounds with organizations that valued the TE position as a weapon that was heavily utilized. So it's not about copying the Lions or the Chiefs, its about giving the HC weapons to build an elite offense.

Cole Kmet had the highest catch % in the nfl the last two years. Literally the most reliable target in the NFL.

He was top 15 in both separation yardage and cushion yardage.

If you watch the tape he is open plenty but caleb is either blind or waldron didnt scheme for him.

Big Johnson will have him have a career year
 

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Yet his #2 TE last year played 51% of the snaps but only had 16 targets.
The UDFA blocking TE? Are you using him as an example of what a consensus top 20 first round draft pick will do?
 
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You serious about Grady? I take it you haven't read or hear what everyone everywhere has written or said about the Falcons' Kirk Cousins-sized cap hell? They HAD to create room by the league year deadline (were over 5M over the cap!) and Grady Jarrett was the only player on the roster they could release to get under the cap. They tried to extend him and get under the cap, but he and his agent said, "I love Y'all, and I'm from here, but no." He balled last year, and has been a baller his entire career.

So to recap ~ you clearly don't know what you're talking about.

He also thinks dexter is really bad and wants to draft walter nolen at #10

I'm guessing he's crying because that ship has likely sailed with the signing of jarrett

Grady is a dawg, and for those who say he's old look up what his pops did at a similar age.
 

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The UDFA blocking TE? Are you using him as an example of what a consensus top 20 first round draft pick will do?

Literally ben johnson has only utilized his main weapons in the offense.

The #3 WR and #2 TE are typically blockers and run clear routes.

Not my fault you dont understand what makes cole kmet good in an offense that already has two dynamic downfield threats.
 

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Cole Kmet had the highest catch % in the nfl the last two years. Literally the most reliable target in the NFL.

He was top 15 in both separation yardage and cushion yardage.

If you watch the tape he is open plenty but caleb is either blind or waldron didnt scheme for him.

Big Johnson will have him have a career year
In 5 years his best year was when he was peppered with dump offs from the worst QB in Bears history. His best game in 5 years was a whopping 107 yards. If Kmet is so great, he has nothing to worry about from a Rookie coming in to help the team win.

David Montgomery is #1 in Catch%... does that mean he is a better receiving RB than Gibbs? All those little meaningless stats don't add up to anything. Kmet is a good TE and a redzone target. No one said he won't have a place on the team. You think Kmet is better than just good... I guess we shall see if the Bears agree.
 
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