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What kind of logic is this? That doesn't mean depth wins championships. Its just something that happens to every team.
The team with the best depth keeps winning. If you don’t have depth, it’s death.

Depth wins championships.
 

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EThe thought of a single hole in the roster scares me.
It's a psychological disorder:

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It's the fear of leaving any potential hole or orifice unfilled.
 

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Teams with balanced rosters and very good QB play win championships. Not team with 5 good backup OL. This is nonsense.

I didn’t say 5 good back-up depth! If you do some research you will find that depth won championships.

You will find plenty of good teams that lost because they didn’t have depth.

Ahem...2006 Chicago Bears!
 

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Teams with balanced rosters and very good QB play win championships. Not team with 5 good backup OL. This is nonsense.

 

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The issue is that Pace hasn't drafted well. He simply hasn't. It's not just him always throwing picks away. It's that a lot of the time, those trades haven't translated into good players. Him missing on top 10 picks 3 times is a killer because those are supposed to end up being your blue chip players. Kevin white wasnt even a contributor. At best Floyd was a run stopper with an occasional sack. You don't draft that as an edge rusher in the top 10. Trading the picks to get the #2 overall wasnt the problem. Drafting the wrong QB was.

Misses add up over time. Especially when they're high rounders. Then you start to overcompensate in FA and trades.

The Bears dont just have a depth problem. They've had a starting roster problem. They've had two bad tackles and a leaking interior. The TE issues have been well known outside of Grahams redzone production. The QB, obv.

Ryan Pace has found some really nice late round talent, which has led to some completely overrating his overall ability to draft. Im sorry but i've been saying it for years, the lack of blue chip players is alarming. Mack, Robinson, Hicks, Trevathan, Fuller. These are arguably the 5 best and most consistent players the Bears have had the past few years and not one of them is a Pace draft pick. Roquan is finally becoming one of those guys but they need more of that.

There are a couple positions that need to be great to really improve the rest of your team. 1 is obviously the QB. 2 is a dominant D lineman. 3 is a premier LT. We saw how the Bears looked in 2018 when the QB was playing decent(until week 11) and Mack was destroying OLs and getting to the QB early and often. Everything looks better.

The Bears need more consistent drafting and smarter spending if they want to see sustained success.
if ryan pace is bad at drafting and just overall building a roster, I can't imagine what you'd think about at least 25 other NFL teams that draft worse and fail even more in the offseason. literally Ryan pace was a failed QB pick away from a superbowl caliber team every single season for as long as mack and that QB are on this team. NOW we might just have a offense and defense that can do it. fixing LT, WR1 is our only true weakness at the moment on offense, for the near future.

Defense is going to need to get younger in the next 3-4 years so we'll be seeing a lot of defensive picks imo. if Fields Jenkins work out we've got 4 out of 5 spots set for the next 4 years at OL and a QB for 5.(im just not counting extensions etc) our defense still has Khalil Mack for 3 years eddie Jackson Jaylon Johnson eddie goldman and Bilal Nichols, Hicks and smith I believe for 2 more years. our SS position has been filled by 1 year contract Safeties that play better than they're for us. Danny Trevathan is the worst resigning ever by pace, imo because it was clear as day he was finished. Leno was resigned after he actually was playing the best football of his career, once he got paid everything went out the window, I think those kind of people are just scum of the earth.
 

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I didn’t say 5 good back-up depth! If you do some research you will find that depth won championships.

You will find plenty of good teams that lost because they didn’t have depth.

Ahem...2006 Chicago Bears!
Hilarious. The Colts had the worst return coverage in the NFL. That's an entire starting unit, lets not even get into depth. They literally gave up a TD on the opening kickoff of the SB, the only team to ever do so. Hows that for depth? You want to know why they won?

They had a generational QB and the Bears had whatever the fuck Rex Grossman was. The Bears best offensive weapon was a special teamer. The Colts was a HOFer QB who held all-time records.

There's no depth in the NFL that makes up for the Bears losing their 3 technique, literally the key to the Lovie 2 defense and Mike Brown, the best safety this team has had since i've been watching.

Football is far too complex for it to be about depth. Its about matchups and luck and again, quality QB play with solid enough defense.
 

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if ryan pace is bad at drafting and just overall building a roster, I can't imagine what you'd think about at least 25 other NFL teams that draft worse and fail even more in the offseason.
Id hate to read the rest of what you wrote, which is why i wont.
 

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Hilarious. The Colts had the worst return coverage in the NFL. That's an entire starting unit, lets not even get into depth. They literally gave up a TD on the opening kickoff of the SB, the only team to ever do so. Hows that for depth? You want to know why they won?

They had a generational QB and the Bears had whatever the fuck Rex Grossman was. The Bears best offensive weapon was a special teamer. The Colts was a HOFer QB who held all-time records.

There's no depth in the NFL that makes up for the Bears losing their 3 technique, literally the key to the Lovie 2 defense and Mike Brown, the best safety this team has had since i've been watching.

Football is far too complex for it to be about depth. Its about matchups and luck and again, quality QB play with solid enough defense.

It’s a cause and effect.

“solid enough defense” lol

isn't possible without depth. Proved again!
 

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