Clock management (Lions game)

[SugabearMVP]

Man it was really painful watching the last play on this video. You can clearly see Flus and a bunch of players yelling at Caleb to snap the ball but he just seems to not be paying any attention. This is not to take any blame away from Flus but man this was brutal to watch.

Any QB, I dont care who it is would not do this sort of thing... no excuses. You gotta do a better job if you want to lead a team... just brutal.

 

[DaaBears]

Man it was really painful watching the last play on this video. You can clearly see Flus and a bunch of players yelling at Caleb to snap the ball but he just seems to not be paying any attention. This is not to take any blame away from Flus but man this was brutal to watch.

Any QB, I dont care who it is would not do this sort of thing... no excuses. You gotta do a better job if you want to lead a team... just brutal.

That is the way I know it too. Snap the ball and run the play you're supposed to run. There was plenty of time to run a play and take a timeout. That just doesn't happen to be the media spin.

 

[bamainatlanta]

If he snapped it, it was likely a penalty because Kmet & Moore couldn’t figure out how to line up.

 

[SugabearMVP]

If he snapped it, it was likely a penalty because Kmet & Moore couldn’t figure out how to line up.

No, you can clearly see in the video both Moore and Kmet are lined up and at one point even turn around to look back at Caleb like what the hell?

 

[DefNextYear]

Total shit show, but we’ve probably said all that’s need to be said. The whole final drive was garbage. Huge penalties on Tevin and Kmet… totally blown blocking on the sack… terrible pass by Caleb to DJ… so many opportunities flushed away. It was a fitting ending to that disaster.

 

[DefNextYear]

No, you can clearly see in the video both Moore and Kmet are lined up and at one point even turn around to look back at Caleb like what the hell?

Yea, with about 8 seconds left on the clock…

 

[TheEarlofRobin]

Total shit show, but we’ve probably said all that’s need to be said. The whole final drive was garbage. Huge penalties on Tevin and Kmet… totally blown blocking on the sack… terrible pass by Caleb to DJ… so many opportunities flushed away. It was a fitting ending to that disaster.

Yeah, too much focus on the last play and not enough about that entire 'drive' being a joke.

 

[Dstone5553]

Man it was really painful watching the last play on this video. You can clearly see Flus and a bunch of players yelling at Caleb to snap the ball but he just seems to not be paying any attention. This is not to take any blame away from Flus but man this was brutal to watch.

Any QB, I dont care who it is would not do this sort of thing... no excuses. You gotta do a better job if you want to lead a team... just brutal.

You don't think there's a chance it was intentional do you? To speed up the process of getting his inept coach canned?

Genius if that's the case.

 

[bamainatlanta]

No, you can clearly see in the video both Moore and Kmet are lined up and at one point even turn around to look back at Caleb like what the hell?

No they switched places a couple of times.

 

[baselman1974]

Was it hard to just call a TO? Eberflus is the HC, why yell? Just call TO.

 

[BradyJay]

The to should have been called immediately following the sack. Pretty simple.

 

[SugabearMVP]

Yeah, too much focus on the last play and not enough about that entire 'drive' being a joke.

I do agree but I made this thread and specifically called out the "clock management" cuz lots of people believe that is solely the job of a head coach... but as we see here, it also involves the QB being aware of that as well and making the right decisions based off of that.

 

[HearshotKDS]

Caleb did mismanage the situation, but a competent coaching staff sees the trainwreck in action and intervenes to help their rookie out in a niche situation after getting his brains smashed against the side of his head the play before. It *is* a failure on CWs part, but an understandable and perhaps predictable one, rookie QBs are going to have to learn some lessons the hard way. If Caleb keeps finding himself in these types of situations I do think its fair to ask if he's situational football challenged.

What is surprising to me is an NFL head coach sees this with 14 seconds left after seeing CW audible out of the QB draw and thinks "yeah theyre for sure going to get this ball snapped in time ", with hindsight we know Kmet is supposed to be on the line, so not only are they not set but also they're not even lined up right yet. The coaching staff is too oblivious to see the freight train coming down the tracks here, even though Eberflus said himself in the postgame that he thinks they need 12 seconds minimum to comfortably get 2 plays off.




This is what it looks like when a coach mentally panics on the sideline, he isnt alert or aware enough to deviate from whatever the plan was even though at this point it was blatantly obvious to everyone watching the team was in the process of fucking this up. Thats just not acceptable for an NFL head coach in any year let alone his 3rd, and its a big part of why Eberflus' legacy will be one of the worst game managers in recent history of the NFL.

 

[Dstone5553]

“I thought when we called that last play, it was a no-huddle play that we wanted to get lined up,” Williams said. “I saw the clock winding down and wanted to try to take a shot at the end zone because I was expecting it to be our last play right in that moment. … Just not on the same page in that situation. I definitely can learn from it. Definitely will learn from it.”

I think he didn't know they had a timeout left.

 

[Les Grossman]

Caleb did mismanage the situation, but a competent coaching staff sees the trainwreck in action and intervenes to help their rookie out in a niche situation after getting his brains smashed against the side of his head the play before. It *is* a failure on CWs part, but an understandable and perhaps predictable one, rookie QBs are going to have to learn some lessons the hard way. If Caleb keeps finding himself in these types of situations I do think its fair to ask if he's situational football challenged.

What is surprising to me is an NFL head coach sees this with 14 seconds left after seeing CW audible out of the QB draw and thinks "yeah theyre for sure going to get this ball snapped in time ", with hindsight we know Kmet is supposed to be on the line, so not only are they not set but also they're not even lined up right yet. The coaching staff is too oblivious to see the freight train coming down the tracks here, even though Eberflus said himself in the postgame that he thinks they need 12 seconds minimum to comfortably get 2 plays off.

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This is what it looks like when a coach mentally panics on the sideline, he isnt alert or aware enough to deviate from whatever the plan was even though at this point it was blatantly obvious to everyone watching the team was in the process of fucking this up. Thats just not acceptable for an NFL head coach in any year let alone his 3rd, and its a big part of why Eberflus' legacy will be one of the worst game managers in recent history of the NFL.

Agree. This is EXACTLY why there are coaches. If coaches aren’t managing this type of thing then WTF are they there for? Players could do it all the themselves otherwise.

Coaches are supposed to take care of these things so that that players can go out and play.

 

[legendxofxlink]

As a coach, you couldn’t put a rookie QB in a worse situation. . . Caleb and Rome were still a head turn away from beating the best team in the league.

 

[msadows]

As a coach, when your QB has thrown 3 touchdowns and 210 yards in a half you shouldnt be calling back to back qb draws to settle for a field goal.

Flus should have been fired for that decision making alone. There was zero desire to win that game in regulation.

Loser always played not to lose and rather than to win

 

[Calabis]

Borom is useless and the tug by Lions DB ignored by refs on last throw was pathetic

 

[abegibronreborn]

No, you can clearly see in the video both Moore and Kmet are lined up and at one point even turn around to look back at Caleb like what the hell?

If he snaps the ball with say thirty seconds left, and there's a penalty for not being lined up correctly, it's a five yard penalty and either a ten second run-off or having to use your last time-out. So either 20 seconds and 1 TO remaining or close to 30 seconds left and no TO's.

Both of which are superior to zero seconds left, no?

 

[bamainatlanta]

QB draw with 2 LBers in the middle of the field (before the audible) isn’t going to work. Someone on the IOL would have predictably missed their 2nd level block and ruined the play.