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Again this is basic English. If my intent was to blame SOLELY Kmet I would say he was the ONLY/SOLE player that cost us the game. I did not. Hence why when other players were mentioned I agreed they also cost us the game.

For the avoidance of doubt in the future, my position is that multiple players are invovled in costing us the game. Just because I dont name each and everyone does not change that fact. It is a team game so inevitably there will almost always be more than one player that cost us the game. If I think only one player is at fault I will use the resources English provides and say SOLE or ONLY.
Again this has nothing to do with basic English. I don’t know why you keep saying this. It’s truly hilarious. You made a post calling out one guy for losing game. Simple as that. The end. That’s why people called out your post. Make the connection. You a mere wrong once again.
 

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Again this has nothing to do with basic English. I don’t know why you keep saying this. It’s truly hilarious. You made a post calling out one guy for losing game. Simple as that. The end. That’s why people called out your post. Make the connection. You a mere wrong once again.

Correct because the thread was about him not other players and he did in fact cost us the game with that block. He was not the only one that cost us the game.
 

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Correct because the thread was about him not other players and he did in fact cost us the game with that block. He was not the only one that cost us the game.
Doesn’t mean you can’t chime in and mention other people involved. Great excuse for an idiotic comment! Your comment stands as it was written.

Again for the 3rd or 4th time, please look up what “cost us the game” means and what “Basic English” is LMFAO. I’m gonna move on now Remy boy.
 

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Doesn’t mean you can’t chime in and mention other people involved. Great excuse for an idiotic comment! Your comment stands as it was written.

Again for the 3rd or 4th time, please look up what “cost us the game” means and what “Basic English” is LMFAO. I’m gonna move on now Remy boy.

I am not obligated to mention others that are not the topic of the thread so your feelings wont be hurt. When others were brought up I acknowledged they were also responsible for the loss. If you want a safe space then go to therapy. Otherwise I would recommend you stop being a sensitive snowflake. Kmet cost us the game.
 

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Enough with the negativity.

This guy is a top 10 NFL TE and anyone who thinks he isn't is a fucking moron(Waldron).
I guess I'm a moron.....lol......been called worse..........Cement is a blessing & a curse...depends what he does or doesn't do on a play...he can catch, but not many yacs..a below average blocker..at best! I've been bitchin' about his blocking for 2 years and posters want to make excuses for this guy.
 

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I have had to defend him so much in twitch chat the last year. So many people think he sucks because he's not fast.

Guys is super reliable with sure hands and has improved every single year. Only behind Kelce and Kittle in TD's the last 2 years.
I'd bet his lack of blocking has killed more drives than his TD numbers...by far! This is real football, you have to go deeper than Fantasy Football stats.
 

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That’s true. But Kmet doesn’t play defense. Hold them to 3 and not 7. But yes the refs completely goatfucked that call. I’m not sure there is another TE that takes hits like Kmet but still holds onto the ball. Dude takes fucking missiles but doesn’t drop the ball
True...Cement is a tough SOB......
 

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We were down 14-9 and went downn 21-9. It clearly cost us the game. That doesnt mean other players were also at fault.

@bamainatlanta can usually get the win/loss probabilities so I presume he can weigh in on how much that play decreased our chances of winning.
Indy’s odds of winning went from 75% to almost 95% after that play. Also, the timeout usage earlier in the second half affects odds of winning but Flus hasn’t figured that out yet.
 

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Kmet’s contributions in this game far outweighed the missed block.

A lot of things are wrong with this offense. Cole Kmet isn’t anywhere near the top of that list.
No it didn't...not even close
 

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Indy’s odds of winning went from 75% to almost 95% after that play. Also, the timeout usage earlier in the second half affects odds of winning but Flus hasn’t figured that out yet.

Thanks. No idea why it seems to take them so long to get plays in. Also didnt help Rome and Caleb were celebrating their firsr TDs. As a coach you gotta make sure they know you may go for 2. I also thought they were the 2 points too early.
 

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How did it not? Without Kmets contributions as a pass catcher, who knows how many points they put up. Quit acting like one play lost the Bears this game haha
I know how many points they put-up...16...."Acting like one play lost the Bears this game?" Where did I say or even insinuate that? My pov is he is a below average blocker and will never get better. You're confusing different posts with different posters. The bigger question is, who knows how many grains of sand are on the Earth? Stars in the Universe? We know 4 years now what his contributions are, and in totality now as good as his groupies think. Again I'll say it..."I'm not interested in Fantasy Football takes, but his all-around play as a TE is not that good. Blocking is a big part of playing TE and he fails miserably at it.
 

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I know how many points they put-up...16...."Acting like one play lost the Bears this game?" Where did I say or even insinuate that? My pov is he is a below average blocker and will never get better. You're confusing different posts with different posters. The bigger question is, who knows how many grains of sand are on the Earth? Stars in the Universe? We know 4 years now what his contributions are, and in totality now as good as his groupies think. Again I'll say it..."I'm not interested in Fantasy Football takes, but his all-around play as a TE is not that good. Blocking is a big part of playing TE and he fails miserably at it.

I would say overall he is a net positive but you cant be a 6-6 260 pound Inline TE and get a pass for shit blocking.

He is not an undersized move TE. He is suppossd to be big, strong and fast enough to occassionally block a 240-270 pound edge player.

When Allen comes back we arent going to be able to run a lot of 11 personnel if Kmet cant be asked to block an Edge player on occassion. Hence why Lewis is playing so much.

So I can already see fans crying about 2 TE sets or Lewis playing in 11 personnel when the reality is Kmet needs to block better if he wants the bulk of the reps in single TE sets.
 

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I know how many points they put-up...16...."Acting like one play lost the Bears this game?" Where did I say or even insinuate that? My pov is he is a below average blocker and will never get better. You're confusing different posts with different posters. The bigger question is, who knows how many grains of sand are on the Earth? Stars in the Universe? We know 4 years now what his contributions are, and in totality now as good as his groupies think. Again I'll say it..."I'm not interested in Fantasy Football takes, but his all-around play as a TE is not that good. Blocking is a big part of playing TE and he fails miserably at it.
Ummm what? I simply stated his positives from the game far outweighed the one negative form the game. Yet your response is talking about the universe? How could anyone take you seriously?
 

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I would say overall he is a net positive but you cant be a 6-6 260 pound Inline TE and get a pass for shit blocking.

He is not an undersized move TE. He is suppossd to be big, strong and fast enough to occassionally block a 240-270 pound edge player.

When Allen comes back we arent going to be able to run a lot of 11 personnel if Kmet cant be asked to block an Edge player on occassion. Hence why Lewis is playing so much.

So I can already see fans crying about 2 TE sets or Lewis playing in 11 personnel when the reality is Kmet needs to block better if he wants the bulk of the reps in single TE sets.
And if it gets to that point then teams will really know if it's a run or pass play. He may be a net positive, but imo, by the slimmest of margins. For me he's a break even at best. As I have stated in a previous post, Kmet is a blessing AND a curse.
 

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Ummm what? I simply stated his positives from the game far outweighed the one negative form the game. Yet your response is talking about the universe? How could anyone take you seriously?
We'll have to agree to disagree as the saying goes. Imo his positives don't outweigh the negatives in an all around TE game. But it's ok to disagree. You are understanding me very well I believe. I don't want to be taken too seriously, but respectfully. Imo there is too much seriousness on this board. We are talking football. People get too serious and then start throwing insults around, name calling and other stupid shit. This is not directed at you. I think we're similar in that we don't start name calling, but respond in kind. Then just leave it alone. For the most part this topic is over for me. I've watched enough replays of Bear games and find Kmet a below average blocker. Especially for his size. As I said let's agree to disagree. Believe me, I want to be proven wrong.
 

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Kmet has always graded out as a better than average blocker, lol at people making a big deal about a fluke play against Latu. Meatballs
 

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Kmet has always graded out as a better than average blocker, lol at people making a big deal about a fluke play against Latu. Meatballs

I expect my TE to catch like tony gonzalez, be as fast as kyle pitts, block like gronk and **** bitches like kelce.

Otherwise he's a bust - Remydat
 

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