Concern for lack of picks

[Black Rainbow]

lol no one learns? we had a great D and where did that get us? This is a QB driven league, if you dont have a good one it just doesnt matter. You need a QB and you need to protect him and give him weapons.. If this kid works out then our Superbowl window is the next 15 years..

Please copy and paste where I said we don't need QB, that the league is not QB driven, and we shouldn't have drafted Fields.

Thanks.

 

[Bearly]

Yes it's a problem. It seems no one learns. Everyone is happy because we got a shiny, new sports car, but when we wrap it around a light pole - we'll be walking to work.

Get ready for a slightly improved offense, and a massive decline on defense.

And it's not just because of this year. It's the aggregate since 2017.

D will get more rest between drives and some of them ( cough, Jackson, cough) not have to think effort isn't going to get rewarded. O ground game and protections should be much better this year with Jenkins, Daniels back and Mustifer at C.

 

[Anytime23]

Right now its nothing to panic about. Moving forward it will be essential for Ryan Pace to nail more of his picks, find more UDFAs and not give out completely boneheaded contracts.

They got the QB. At least we hope they did. Gotta take it from there.

 

[redgrange19]

CB is the only major need on defense, let’s really hope Gipson develops and Goldman comes back to his dominant self. I’ve got high hopes for Attoachou. With the draft playing out, the only shitty thing this off-season was losing Fuller.

 

[dbldrew]

Please copy and paste where I said we don't need QB, that the league is not QB driven, and we shouldn't have drafted Fields.

Thanks.

you dont get to have it both ways, you either get the QB and dont have the picks or you have the extra picks and can rebuild the D. Your argument made your position clear..

 

[Black Rainbow]

you dont get to have it both ways, you either get the QB and dont have the picks or you have the extra picks and can rebuild the D. Your argument made your position clear..

Since 2017?

I made it clear I'm not talking about one year.

 

[vabearsfan15]

Getting a QB on a rookie deal makes everything easier in future drafts.

It was also a bad year for us in free agency. Not only did the cap space go down but we couldn't create much room due to some big contracts kicking in and dead cap.

Usually, though, Pace is good at picking up cheap prove it options in free agency.

 

[Collins77]

Id take 2 picks that are as close to sure fire over 7 ifs every draft. Especially with all of the factors from this year. The Jenkins trade up was draft gold. Absolutely no one expected Pace to pull that rabbit out of the hat. I also think the compensatory picks are are being discounted, Pace has picked some gems late.

 

[PrideisBears]

Yes it's a problem. It seems no one learns. Everyone is happy because we got a shiny, new sports car, but when we wrap it around a light pole - we'll be walking to work.

Get ready for a slightly improved offense, and a massive decline on defense.

And it's not just because of this year. It's the aggregate since 2017.

We still have youth on defense. Eddie Jackson, Jayson Johnson, Roquan, Nichols, Goldman etc. Add in that our DC isn't fucking Pagano and I think our defense stats top 15. Pace NEEDED to get a QB and Tackle.

 

[Black Rainbow]

We still have youth on defense. Eddie Jackson, Jayson Johnson, Roquan, Nichols, Goldman etc. Add in that our DC isn't fucking Pagano and I think our defense stats top 15. Pace NEEDED to get a QB and Tackle.

Top 15 and trending down for two years...

It won't surprise me when Fields is in a similar football situation as Watson.

 

[thenewguy]

It's a concern, but worth it to take a shot at a franchise QB and try and shore up the oline.

This is a transition year anyway. Dalton will be decent enough to make them average-ish or Fields will start and it'll be a learning year. The Bears will be able to clear some bad contracts after this year and the cap will go up.

If Fields starts turning into a franchise QB, then the Bears may have this weird situation where offensive free agents look to come here.

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

NOTHING will help the cap more than a good QB on the rookie salary scale.

 

[thenewguy]

Top 15 and trending down for two years...

It won't surprise me when Fields is in a similar football situation as Watson.

The Bears and Texans situations are nothing alike. O'Brien decimated that team through his ego. Pace has shown that he will lean towards drafting defense and signing high price defensive players, just because he didn't do that this year doesn't mean he won't go back to it

A franchise QB allows him to play to his strength.

 

[Raskolnikov]

I love both picks, especially Fields. No reason to not celebrate. However I am getting concerned about the lack of draft picks. You need young, cheap talent to fill out a roster and to avoid cap hell which the Bears are currently in without a stellar roster. What do you think of Pace’s aggressive trade up strategy and general lack of draft picks compared to other teams?

I wouldn't be so concerned if they would figure out how to milk the compensatory draft system like the Patriots/49ers/Ravens.

Those teams learned how to move up and down the draft, but they did so because they know how to go into every draft with 10 or 11 picks.

The Bears for some reason don't understand how to use trades, expiring contract length strategy, and free agent binge seasons to get more picks. Its really fucking easy. Sometimes I think Bellichek must be the only genius in the NFL or something, but I wouldn't think you have to be that smart to figure it out.

Notice the Patriots last two off-seasons. One year he did nothing. The next year he went grocery shopping and filled every hole for 3 years.

Thats not an accident!! Figure it out you dumb fucks!!! Godammit!! I've been screaming about this for like 15 years now!
All those contracts will expire at the same time. Does nobody else understand what I am saying? I've met like 2 or 3 people here who fucking get it, everybody else dismisses it or says we have to draft better, etc, but for fucks sake its about staggering your free agent signings and the Bears like clockwork sign 3 every year.

All you have to do is sign 6 every other year, and none every other year. To accelerate this you would sign like 6 guys to 2 year contracts this year, and 3 to 1 year contracts next year. Then

1. 9 guys leave at once....
2. you collect 4 extra picks, not being penalized for retaining ones you want or trading others for more picks or trading to fill needs with all your extra goddamn picks
3. After your "off-year" you go grocery shopping again for 2 years of holes.
4. You can trade down a couple times because you have 11 goddamn picks, giving you 9 or 10 next year too. And the cycle repeats.

For fucks sake...I used to want to keep this confidential but the rest of the league gets it now. For some reason The bears are fucktards.

 

[Black Rainbow]

The Bears and Texans situations are nothing alike. O'Brien decimated that team through his ego. Pace has shown that he will lean towards drafting defense and signing high price defensive players, just because he didn't do that this year doesn't mean he won't go back to it

A franchise QB allows him to play to his strength.

Not sure what this has to do with the position we are in now because of Pace's drafting from 2017 to 2021.

The damage has been done.

 

[jerkstore]

Actually, I hope we trade up again.

 

[thenewguy]

Not sure what this has to do with the position we are in now because of Pace's drafting from 2017 to 2021.

The damage has been done.

It's a direct response to you stating the Bears are going to turn into the Texans with Watson.

Sorry if you can't keep up with your own misery posting.

 

[Black Rainbow]

It's a direct response to you stating the Bears are going to turn into the Texans with Watson.

Sorry if you can't keep up with your own misery posting.

I said it wouldn't surprise me...I didn't say they definitely would.

It's a simple idea. The defense has been declining and we've been trading away picks since 2017. I could see the defense regressing.

Not too hard.

 

[ZOMBIE@CTESPN]

It's a direct response to you stating the Bears are going to turn into the Texans with Watson.

Sorry if you can't keep up with your own misery posting.

People got mad bears were being compared to the Jaguars four years ago and that ended up being a perfect comparison with the exception our ownership found it acceptable and kept the front office and coaching intact.

don’t dismiss things cause you can’t handle bad vibes. Plus if I was going to compare how pace runs this team it’s prob more how the rams run their show.

 

[thenewguy]

I said it wouldn't surprise me...I didn't say they definitely would.

It's a simple idea. The defense has been declining and we've been trading away picks since 2017. I could see the defense regressing.

Not too hard.

Let it decline some in the short term. They've grossly overspent on the wrong side of the ball. They have a shot at developing a franchise QB and entering the modern NFL style of play. Pace can go back to building the defense with his mid round picks and value free agent signings.

They are in no danger of becoming a bottom three defense in the NFL like the Texans.