Crystal Lake man, 18, killed kitten over fight about bong: prosecutor

[LordKOTL]

That says more about you than them.

Perhaps it does, but I am not under any illusion of being anything but misanthropic.

Doesn't mean I would kill any human to save my cat. I am not that big of an assbag. I just can count a few people I know that between them and my cat (for actions they've done) my cat makes the world a better place than them.

 

[bearmick]

Is it abuse? Heck yes. Is it anywhere near the same as if this act was done to a human? Not even remotely close.

That's because you have irrational beliefs where animals you don't believe have souls don't matter as much. I feel differently. To me, sentient life is sentient life.

There are several animals I care about who I would have absolutely no hesitation about saving from drowning/falling/being hit by traffic before I would save you, in a situation where I had to choose. For example. (That's nothing against you personally or uniquely by the way; a lot of people could fit in the same category - I just love animals).

 

[brett05]

I appreciate the honesty. I'd also say that I am thankful that your dislike of humans leads perhaps to you having limited to no contact with them. @LordKOTL

 

[bearmick]

lmao..i don't get the pro life people..you hate the babies when they're born but you also hate to see them aborted

Because generally speaking, pro-life isn't really about caring for babies, it's about controlling women.

 

[number51]

Axel Salemi: What are you in for?
Inmate #1: Armed robbery. What are you in for?
Axel Salemi: I killed a kitten with my bare hands over a bong argument with my sister.
Inmate #1: Bend over.

 

[truthbedamned]

Ditto. Anyone who takes their frustrations out on animals or women is a cowardly ***** and deserves the kind of beating that they'll never truly recover from.

Honestly though, I don't think I would ever keep small animals in a house which had a male under 25 living there. Too many of them are just twisted and mentally fucked up and angry, whether it be frustration at their own shortcomings, lack of social and/or sexual success, or generally just being nasty little shits. Almost every instance of animal cruelty I ever see is a young male.



Oh, and other thing .....



.... this **** very clearly doesn't care about animals that much and shouldn't be keeping them in her care as a foster carer.

I agree with this 100 percent. I had the pleasure of having the most gentle beautiful Golden Retriever the almighty ever created. I never ever saw him even growl at a person. All he wanted was to be petted and loved. When he reached about 9 years old he suddenly developed these grand mal seizures which just grew worse and worse the older he got. He took about 4 phenobarbital a day to dry and control them. We always thought that they were caused by flying him from Illinois to California. At the end he was having them several times a week and it was a real effort for him to recover from them. We finally had to put him down at 12 because of them. What I found out a few years ago is that one of my son's friends during high school....around 17 years old kicked him in the head because he ate the shitheads Subway sandwich that he left sitting on a chair. After knocking him out he kicked him in the head 3 or 4 more times just for good measure. Then they all had a good laugh and fired up a bowl.

 

[Urblock]

Have you figured out a way to give him a beating that he won't forget and you don't go to jail?

 

[DrGonzo]

I agree with this 100 percent. I had the pleasure of having the most gentle beautiful Golden Retriever the almighty ever created. I never ever saw him even growl at a person. All he wanted was to be petted and loved. When he reached about 9 years old he suddenly developed these grand mal seizures which just grew worse and worse the older he got. He took about 4 phenobarbital a day to dry and control them. We always thought that they were caused by flying him from Illinois to California. At the end he was having them several times a week and it was a real effort for him to recover from them. We finally had to put him down at 12 because of them. What I found out a few years ago is that one of my son's friends during high school....around 17 years old kicked him in the head because he ate the shitheads Subway sandwich that he left sitting on a chair. After knocking him out he kicked him in the head 3 or 4 more times just for good measure. Then they all had a good laugh and fired up a bowl.

That is really upsetting. All kidding aside, I don't think I could restrain myself from severely hurting someone who did that to my dog.

 

[Tater]

That is really upsetting. All kidding aside, I don't think I could restrain myself from severely hurting someone who did that to my dog.

Yeah, disgusting. I haven't had a dog in 20 years and thinking back, there's no way I could restrain either.
Heck, even if it wasn't my dog and I saw it.

 

[Sunbiz1]

Animals fight for dominance all the time.

So you are saying an animal is more valuable than a human being?

Only difference is humans were created with an eternal soul, which God places a higher value on.

While we are called upon to have the same compassion, we all fail miserably at it more often than not.

The order of dominance animal species exhibit were established as a control measure. People make up their own rules, setting aside the laws of their creation.

IE:
The kid who killed the cat really wanted to kill his sister, at the very least thought about it before misplacing his aggression.

 

[ruprecht]

I agree with this 100 percent. I had the pleasure of having the most gentle beautiful Golden Retriever the almighty ever created. I never ever saw him even growl at a person. All he wanted was to be petted and loved. When he reached about 9 years old he suddenly developed these grand mal seizures which just grew worse and worse the older he got. He took about 4 phenobarbital a day to dry and control them. We always thought that they were caused by flying him from Illinois to California. At the end he was having them several times a week and it was a real effort for him to recover from them. We finally had to put him down at 12 because of them. What I found out a few years ago is that one of my son's friends during high school....around 17 years old kicked him in the head because he ate the shitheads Subway sandwich that he left sitting on a chair. After knocking him out he kicked him in the head 3 or 4 more times just for good measure. Then they all had a good laugh and fired up a bowl.

Jesus.

 

[LordKOTL]

I agree with this 100 percent. I had the pleasure of having the most gentle beautiful Golden Retriever the almighty ever created. I never ever saw him even growl at a person. All he wanted was to be petted and loved. When he reached about 9 years old he suddenly developed these grand mal seizures which just grew worse and worse the older he got. He took about 4 phenobarbital a day to dry and control them. We always thought that they were caused by flying him from Illinois to California. At the end he was having them several times a week and it was a real effort for him to recover from them. We finally had to put him down at 12 because of them. What I found out a few years ago is that one of my son's friends during high school....around 17 years old kicked him in the head because he ate the shitheads Subway sandwich that he left sitting on a chair. After knocking him out he kicked him in the head 3 or 4 more times just for good measure. Then they all had a good laugh and fired up a bowl.

Dude, that's horrible! I would have cut off his balls so he couldn't further contaminate the genepool!

 

[brett05]

Only difference is humans were created with an eternal soul, which God places a higher value on.

While we are called upon to have the same compassion, we all fail miserably at it more often than not.

The order of dominance animal species exhibit were established as a control measure. People make up their own rules, setting aside the laws of their creation.

IE:
The kid who killed the cat really wanted to kill his sister, at the very least thought about it before misplacing his aggression.

So people are MORE valuable than animals.

 

[bearmick]

I agree with this 100 percent. I had the pleasure of having the most gentle beautiful Golden Retriever the almighty ever created. I never ever saw him even growl at a person. All he wanted was to be petted and loved. When he reached about 9 years old he suddenly developed these grand mal seizures which just grew worse and worse the older he got. He took about 4 phenobarbital a day to dry and control them. We always thought that they were caused by flying him from Illinois to California. At the end he was having them several times a week and it was a real effort for him to recover from them. We finally had to put him down at 12 because of them. What I found out a few years ago is that one of my son's friends during high school....around 17 years old kicked him in the head because he ate the shitheads Subway sandwich that he left sitting on a chair. After knocking him out he kicked him in the head 3 or 4 more times just for good measure. Then they all had a good laugh and fired up a bowl.

I would go to jail for the remainder of my life if I ever witnessed that.

 

[bearmick]

Only difference is humans were created with an eternal soul, which God places a higher value on.

All sentient life carries the same basic fundamental mental qualities and emotions, just to different degrees and with varying kinds of development. There's no evidence that any such thing as a soul exists, and if it does, there's no evidence that humans have one and other species of life do not. That's complete horseshit, sorry.

 

[Monk]

I'm thinking about going vegetarian just because of how I feel for animals. If anyone purposely hurts one of my animals I will hurt them.

 

[Monk]

Did you guys know that, in the accepted Protestant Christian bible, humans did not eat animals until after the flood.

 

[LordKOTL]

All sentient life carries the same basic fundamental mental qualities and emotions, just to different degrees and with varying kinds of development. There's no evidence that any such thing as a soul exists, and if it does, there's no evidence that humans have one and other species of life do not. That's complete horseshit, sorry.

I in general agree. I won't debate the possibility of a soul, but IMHO sentience is not a black/white thing; it's a shades of grey thing. Any pet owner knows their pets feel emotions to some degree. They may not be as sentient as us, but they are sentient.

 

[bearmick]

I in general agree. I won't debate the possibility of a soul, but IMHO sentience is not a black/white thing; it's a shades of grey thing. Any pet owner knows their pets feel emotions to some degree. They may not be as sentient as us, but they are sentient.

Most people would be surprised how advanced mammals in particular are. Dogs and cats (the most common pet animals) have extremely highly developed sentience, equivalent to that of a small child, and I don't know anyone who thinks it's ok to physically or mentally abuse or mistreat a small child. They deserve compassion and respect just as humans do.

Personally, I'm angered even more by abuse to animals than to (adult) humans for the simple reason that humans can understand why something is happening. They have the intellectual capacity to reason and the ability to communicate their problems and fears via language, whereas animals (and small children to a degree) do not.

I will also admit to judging humans largely on their treatment and empathy towards animals. Anyone who lacks compassion for them, I cannot respect, even if they share my views on everything else. Likewise, those who are completely the opposite of me in terms of how they think or believe politically/religiously/whatever, I can still hold them in massively high regard if they have empathy and compassion towards animals.

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

I agree with this 100 percent. I had the pleasure of having the most gentle beautiful Golden Retriever the almighty ever created. I never ever saw him even growl at a person. All he wanted was to be petted and loved. When he reached about 9 years old he suddenly developed these grand mal seizures which just grew worse and worse the older he got. He took about 4 phenobarbital a day to dry and control them. We always thought that they were caused by flying him from Illinois to California. At the end he was having them several times a week and it was a real effort for him to recover from them. We finally had to put him down at 12 because of them. What I found out a few years ago is that one of my son's friends during high school....around 17 years old kicked him in the head because he ate the shitheads Subway sandwich that he left sitting on a chair. After knocking him out he kicked him in the head 3 or 4 more times just for good measure. Then they all had a good laugh and fired up a bowl.

That's horrible man. Just fucking horrible. What did you say to your son? Did you ever confront his friend?