Cubs Farm System And Prospects Discussion Thread

[Parade_Rain]

It wasn't reported to recently but Baez has been taking grounders all last week at third before games. They have had this thought for awhile.

Yep. If someone goes back and looks at old threads, I didn't think they would make this move. It is kind of exciting that as bad as Javy was last season to think he may have really made the right adjustments.

 

[PickSix]

Does anyone know/understand Baez's contract situation? I can't find anything via a Google search, but I thought I had heard that the Cubs would lose a year of player control if he is brought up before June 9. ???

And put me in with the crowd that doesn't like the Bryant to left field idea.

 

[SilenceS]

Does anyone know/understand Baez's contract situation? I can't find anything via a Google search, but I thought I had heard that the Cubs would lose a year of player control if he is brought up before June 9. ???

And put me in with the crowd that doesn't like the Bryant to left field idea.

Im reading June 11th now for the extra year. Also, why is Bryant to left bad? If Baez is on the team, Bryant is the worst defensive IF out of all of them. Bryant has been about average at third. Made some nice plays. Has made some terrible throws and is slow to the bunt. Also, he has made some wrong decisions at third. Not knocking him but it isn't like we are taking a GG off his spot.

 

[CSF77]

Im reading June 11th now for the extra year. Also, why is Bryant to left bad? If Baez is on the team, Bryant is the worst defensive IF out of all of them. Bryant has been about average at third. Made some nice plays. Has made some terrible throws and is slow to the bunt. Also, he has made some wrong decisions at third. Not knocking him but it isn't like we are taking a GG off his spot.

Well that gives him 7 days to figure 3B out. At least they are making a stance now

 

[PickSix]

Im reading June 11th now for the extra year. Also, why is Bryant to left bad? If Baez is on the team, Bryant is the worst defensive IF out of all of them. Bryant has been about average at third. Made some nice plays. Has made some terrible throws and is slow to the bunt. Also, he has made some wrong decisions at third. Not knocking him but it isn't like we are taking a GG off his spot.

Thanks for the info.
I'm probably wrong, but tend to think about the long term. I guess that I have some dream that Bryant can be the Mike Schmidt or even better of my generation. Having his hitting production at 3rd base is a huge advantage over most teams vs what they get out of their 3rd base spot.
Left fielders who can hit are much easier to find if you have the financial resources. His glove isn't going to get to Gold Glove status without the work there.
And I've seen many a rookie start to tank at the plate when they are being moved around focusing their thoughts on today's fielding assignments being different than their prior comfort zone.
Obviously, by what is going on, it does look as though tough he is being transitioned to LF. Tough skittles to me.
Thanks again for the info.

 

[TC in Mississippi]

Thanks for the info.
I'm probably wrong, but tend to think about the long term. I guess that I have some dream that Bryant can be the Mike Schmidt or even better of my generation. Having his hitting production at 3rd base is a huge advantage over most teams vs what they get out of their 3rd base spot.
Left fielders who can hit are much easier to find if you have the financial resources. His glove isn't going to get to Gold Glove status without the work there.
And I've seen many a rookie start to tank at the plate when they are being moved around focusing their thoughts on today's fielding assignments being different than their prior comfort zone.
Obviously, by what is going on, it does look as though tough he is being transitioned to LF. Tough skittles to me.
Thanks again for the info.

If there's one kid I don't worry much about with switching positions it's Kris Bryant. He shows a maturity rarely seen in rookies but actually often seen with coach's sons in all sports. He'll be fine. Given his size the closest 3B comp to Bryant has always been Troy Glaus who was a heck of a player but with his size the position took a toll on him. I've always felt Bryant was a LF but there's always the Schwarber question. Keep in mind for the future that Bryant does have a strong enough arm to play RF...

 

[CSF77]

Braun went from 3B to LF. Did not kill his value

 

[Boobaby1]

The Cubs are going to have to learn to adjust through the injuries (as any good team does), as they have now had a ton of them and still sit 4 games above .500.

That will be tested in the next month for sure. LaStella, Ramirez, Grimm, Soler, Denorfia. It's a good thing the Cubs have someone in AAA.

Who knows, we may get an answer the unconventional way with Baez, with the Cubs being forced to shuffle the players around?

 

[SilenceS]

If Bryant is permanently pushed off third, that means someone is hitting there. If it is Baez, then that means his trouble are behind him and you won't be disappointed with his production.

 

[CSF77]

The only thing I'm concerned with is the line up swaying too far to the RH side by that move. But you deal with it if Baez put up this level of production.

 

[Boobaby1]

Not a good day at the plate for Baez. I hope he was just in a little funk last night.

The good news. Ho-hum. Schwarber was 2-4 with 2 RBI's. Man, does he ever have an 0'fer? LOL

 

[SilenceS]

Not a good day at the plate for Baez. I hope he was just in a little funk last night.

The good news. Ho-hum. Schwarber was 2-4 with 2 RBI's. Man, does he ever have an 0'fer? LOL

People who watch him regularly say this is what impresses them this year. He has a bad game and it isn't translating into a bad week.

 

[SilenceS]

Jon Heyman is reporting that the Cubs will only use Schwarber as a catcher from now on. He will not play in the OF the rest of the season. Looks like they are dead set on him being our catcher by next year at some point.

 

[TC in Mississippi]

Jon Heyman is reporting that the Cubs will only use Schwarber as a catcher from now on. He will not play in the OF the rest of the season. Looks like they are dead set on him being our catcher by next year at some point.

I saw that but what's this?

Schwarber, who could merit a September promotion, is the likely heir apparent to the starting job given the team's struggles at that position. Miguel Montero and David Ross have juggled the catching role with neither emerging with the full-time job.

Is Montero not the full time catcher? The only reason he hasn't dwarfed Ross in PA's is that Castillo was getting some time earlier in the season. Just a bit of drama that didn't need to be added by Heyman IMO.

As far as Schwarber goes, I really hope this FO knows what it's doing in regards to him. I usually trust them but there is no one outside the Cubs organization that thinks Schwarber is a catcher. Smacks of smartest guy in the room stuff to me. We will see, maybe in sooner than we thought in 2016.

 

[SilenceS]

I saw that but what's this?



Is Montero not the full time catcher? The only reason he hasn't dwarfed Ross in PA's is that Castillo was getting some time earlier in the season. Just a bit of drama that didn't need to be added by Heyman IMO.

As far as Schwarber goes, I really hope this FO knows what it's doing in regards to him. I usually trust them but there is no one outside the Cubs organization that thinks Schwarber is a catcher. Smacks of smartest guy in the room stuff to me. We will see, maybe in sooner than we thought in 2016.

I guess he thinks that because Montero doesn't play against lefties and doesn't catch Lester. It was probably just a dumb moment.

 

[CSF77]

I guess he thinks that because Montero doesn't play against lefties and doesn't catch Lester. It was probably just a dumb moment.

Moment?

 

[CSF77]

Still by them saying that Schwarber is only going to be used at catcher just means that they are 100% committed to Bryant in LF and Baez at 3B.

Now the who lack of production at catcher is crap. The Cubs making that commitment increased his time line. That added a year to it. I'm expecting him to be in the minors up intil 2016's trade deadline now. Which is fine as he needs more time in at catcher.

We can pretty much pencle in a line up of Fowler, Bryant, Rizzo, Baez, Soler, Montero, Castro, Pitcher, Russell this summer. Next year you just flip Motero for Schwarber. Fowler is up for debate also. His BA has been lacking for a lead off. Not sure if they will extend him or not next year. They could get that production out of Alcantara in CF.

 

[SilenceS]

Im really hoping Houston blows their load on Cole Hamels and we get a really good pitcher for not a huge return.

 

[beckdawg]

I'm really curious to see if the cubs land this Eddy Julio Martinez. He's supposedly got 60 tools across the board with a 70 run... in CF of all places. As an example, Yoan Moncada had Hit: 60 | Power: 60 | Run: 65 | Arm: 60 | Field: 50 | Overall: 65 and MLB.com has him presently as the #7 prospect and probably a 2B which are greatly devalued generally.

Martinez is drawing comparisons to Andruw Jones. If the cubs do land him it is really interesting to me. They are apparently already locked into 6-7 of the top 15 IFA's though from what I've ready they are lower names not top 5 guys. This year is likely the last in a long while where they can bring in large amount of high impact talent given the present rules with IFA and the draft. As such, this year sort of determines the longevity of the run the present group of players can make.

 

[TL1961]

Does anyone know/understand Baez's contract situation? I can't find anything via a Google search, but I thought I had heard that the Cubs would lose a year of player control if he is brought up before June 9. ???

And put me in with the crowd that doesn't like the Bryant to left field idea.

Not a crowd